Please help me build

[bluva]

When it comes to building a computer, i doubt i know the bare minimum even.
Can you guys help put one together with my preference? I would like to make a gaming computer 700 or less. The goal is to spend 800 (100 for monitor).
As i said gaming computer, however that should not limit it. Listening to music and other computer functions are needed. My eyes really been on the i5-2500k the most for a processor.
I wanted to buy this but i was told it wasn't a gaming computer which really upset me because its so cheap!
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dddwyg1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=inspiron-580
they said i would need to buy a new power wat?, cooling fans and graphic card for it to play the latest games.

 

[striker410]

Lol, dont buy the dell! Check out this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-phenom-ii-radeon-hd-6850,2903.html
Change the 6850 for a Sapphire 5850 EXtreme: http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics-100282XTREME/dp/B004W75ATI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1304827541&sr=8-1
Add win7 and monitor and you're set!

EDIT: might also consider throwing in a bit for phenom x4 955BE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808&cm_re=955-_-19-103-808-_-Product

 

[bluva]

thanks for the reply. I'm really looking into it looks cheap too and better equipped. Question, i thought Intel was better than AMD? Or you don't have a choice when your on budget? Also this build contains 380 W power. The dell i believe contains 300. I was told you need 600 to run good graphic cards. What do you think?

 

[mdd1963]

$700 might be a bit optimistic, with a $220 cpu alone, but I'd recommend---

i5/2500K
Asrock P67Pro3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
GTX460(1gb) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130570
Name brand 700-750 watt PSU
Seagate HDD 1 TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

 

[bluva]

thanks @mdd1963 however like i mentioned i don't much with building computers so i can't really go off with what you gave me. its too vague to me. Are you saying i add/remove from the list with what you are showing me? I did see this on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642513

 

[k1114]

With Os and monitor, you can only get an i3.

■LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
■Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
■Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
■Acer P215HBbd Black 21.5" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
■Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
■G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
■MSI H61M-E33 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
■Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100
■Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM
■Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 XTREME 1 GB DDR5 HDMI/DVI-I/DP PCI-Express Graphics Card 100282XTREME
TOTAL: $796.90 Shipping Included. Before MIR.

 

[bluva]

thank you k1114! so thats 800 for everything wow! lol I know they're okay now but will an i3 be okay for future games (2013 maybe?) or will i have to change that? I honestly have no problem with AMD as long as it can compete equally to intel's i series.

 

[k1114]

Most games now only use 2 cores, $60 more will get you an i5-2400. And maybe drop to a 5770 which is $30 less.

 

[gametstr]

The above build looks good. I 'd say get p67 based mobo tho. That way u can upgrade ur CPU later.
if u get an i5 2500K make sure u get a GPU that compliments it well.
Radeon HD69X0 or GTX 570

 

[k1114]

Change hdd to 500gb instead of 1tb, cpu(i3 to i5) and gpu(5850 to 5770).

■LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
■Seagate Barracuda ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
■Acer P215HBbd Black 21.5" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
■SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
■Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
■G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
■MSI H61M-E33 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
■Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM
■Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
■Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
TOTAL: $802.61 Shipping Included. Before MIR.

 

[bluva]

i think i might just go for it and get the i5-2400. now can i keep the specs of everything else?

Edit: yes! thank you so much! hahaha

 

[bluva]

Best answer selected by Bluva.

 

[bluva]

now when putting this thing together i just hope it won't give me problems!

 

[k1114]

Here's Tom's guide for building a pc. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-guide-building There are also a number of videos on youtube.

 

[gametstr]

u really should consider getting a better mobo. a H67 based if not P67 based board.

 

[bluva]

lol whats so bad about the other 1? thanks for the guide k1114, imma use it!

 

[k1114]

There's really no difference in h61 and h67 except for sata6 and usb3, none which really matter at this budget or for gaming. Even the cheapest p67 board is $50 more and most people don't upgrade their pcs, especially first time home builders. The i5-2400 is plenty of power to handle much more gpu power so even if he wanted to upgrade, the gpu is the weakest link in this build.

 

[gametstr]

fair enough..
I agree that the GPU is weak.
I wonder if he wouldn't regret not having usb3, sata6 later..
and especially if its not going to be upgraded shouldn't he get the best possible while he can?

 

[k1114]

Well he's getting the best for his budget, 5770 is still plenty powerful to max most games on a single 1080p monitor, and with 500w psu he can upgrade just the gpu if need be.