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May 8, 2011 7:53:52 PM

Ahoy mates!

A friend of mine asked me to build him a media system for hd video, music, simple games and browsing.
I'm kind of into enthusiast hardware so I've decided that I'll check with you guys before the order. :kaola: 
Budget MAX 800$ / 5100 Swedish kr :sol: 

MOBO: Asrock M3A770DE

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 970 3,5GHz Black Edition

GPU: XFX Radeon HD5550 1GB

PSU: Corsair CX 600W

Case Fractal Design Define R3, Titanium

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2048MB) 1333MHz XMS3-10600

HDD: 1.5TB Samsung Ecogreen 5400

DVD Samsung DVD±RW 22X DL LS IDE

All comments are welcome :) 

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May 8, 2011 8:33:26 PM

Some sites in there?
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May 8, 2011 9:12:49 PM

Hi Boldor,
that CPU is overkill. If he is only doing HD streaming and such, no way in hell he needs that processor. PSU is also overkill.
Get a better video card, such as 5670 or GTS 450.
I would upgrade the mobo to the ASRock 870 extreme3, very nice board.
Get a Samsung Spinpoint f3 7200, much better drive.
Also notice you have an IDE disc drive listed, most nowadays are sata.
Finally, what's the budget?
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May 8, 2011 10:12:44 PM

Get something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

(yes I know your in Sweden)

Add 4GB of 1.5v DDR3-1333/1600.

It'll be faster in gaming, use half the power and run a lot cooler and have a lot better upgrade path.

If you go this route you won't need a 600w psu, you'll be able to use a 380-400w psu. You can use the savings to get a better video card.

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May 9, 2011 1:25:36 AM

I agree with GeekApproved.

Go for an i3-2100 and CX430 Corsair PSU.

Graphics--make sure to get a card that doesn't need an auxiliary power connector. I suggest a 5670 just because going lower than that only saves a couple bucks, but makes it so it can't play games if you decide to.

Get a SATA DVD drive, not IDE.

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB should be a good HDD. It's a great deal right now.
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May 9, 2011 6:50:45 AM

Thanks for all the input. I've taken your comments into this new suggestion:

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-PH67A-UD3 REV B3

CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 3,1GHz

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GT440 1GB

PSU: Corsair CX 600W

Case: Fractal Design Define R3, Titanium

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2048MB) 1333MHz XMS3-10600

HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ

DVD: Optiarc AD-7260S DVD±RW Black SATA, OEM

A link to the Swedish site I'm limited to, with all parts listed:
http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/427034/mediabox

They didnt have the 450 nor 5670 in stock so I just went for the next best thing (?). Also about the PSU, I really rather have to much power then have a lack of it, so I'm not willing to go for 400/430 but maybe 500W? :) 
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May 9, 2011 1:18:44 PM

Dude, look at my specs, I'm running much more demanding video card and 2 hdd's and I'm using 380w psu. You don't need anywhere near 600w.
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May 9, 2011 2:25:49 PM

Alright, we're nearing the end guys :) 
I've downgraded the PSU to a pleasurable 500W. And I've, reluctantly, decided to go for the HD5670 (because its out of stock and I'l have to wait for the next shipment).

Now you've all agreed on the i3, but I can get the same setup with a 970 4x BE for 10$ less! Im really leaning towards the Phenom here.

The final two alternatives:
i3
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-PH67A-UD3 REV B3
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 3,1GHz
GPU: MSI Radeon HD5670 1GB
PSU: Corsair CX 500W
Case: Fractal Design Define R3, Titanium
RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2048MB) 1333MHz XMS3-10600
HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
DVD: Optiarc AD-7260S DVD±RW Black SATA, OEM
http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/427040/mediabox-i3

AMD
MOBO: Asrock M3A770DE
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 970 3,5GHz BE
GPU: MSI Radeon HD5670 1GB
PSU: Corsair CX 500W
Case: Fractal Design Define R3, Titanium
RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2048MB) 1333MHz XMS3-10600
HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
DVD: Optiarc AD-7260S DVD±RW Black SATA, OEM
http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/427901/mediabox-amd

Which one is it gonna be and why? Any other changes before the order?
Thanks alot :) 
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May 9, 2011 2:29:40 PM

You can go phenom, but the i3 will perform better. I know it's confusing as the 2100 is a dual and the phenom is a quad, but it's all about architecture.
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May 9, 2011 5:48:32 PM

The 970 will be faster in some apps, but the majority will be won by the i3.

i3 uses half the watts, therefore you can get away with a smaller psu and also save on your electric bill.

s1155 motherboard has a much better upgrade path than AM3.

The introduction of the i3 has caused AMD to have to drop prices on the PHenom II's drastically. These new falling prices still make it a great value.

I'd say if you want to overclock, go with the Phenom II, if you want fast stock speeds and lower power consumption, go with the i3.

The price isn't much different because you chose a P67 motherboard. You only need a P67 motherboard if you plan on using more than 1 video card. Otherwise H67 is the way to go.

Also the i3 has on cpu video, so he could use that until he can afford a better video card. (You can't use on-cpu graphics with P67)

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May 9, 2011 8:31:21 PM

Im going for the Phenom build. Thanks everyone for the great input!

I just wish i had several "best answer" badges to give away :) 
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May 9, 2011 8:31:48 PM

Best answer selected by boldor.
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May 9, 2011 10:56:46 PM

That's good you found a 5670. The GT 440 is pretty bad, worse than the 5550, I think (double check some benchies). And I'm certain it's worse in video playback quality.

The Phenom II x4 970BE is a decent choice if you overclock, although saving $20 to get the 955BE is better.

The CX 600W and CX 500W typically cost the same. If that's the case, just get the 600W. Otherwise, a CX430 should get the job done (check here: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp). Use 15% capacitor aging.
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May 10, 2011 1:23:48 AM

Bah, CX. Corsairs now making junk, just like OCZ, but at least OCZ gives you the full standard 3yr warranty.

Anyways, yes, the 955BE will do the same overclock as a 970BE, so you can save a few bucks there for sure.
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May 10, 2011 2:09:19 AM

What's good enough for jonnyGURU.com Recommended is good enough for me. CX430 review: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

I suppose it's not the same as Corsair TX series and especially HX and AX, but it's good enough. I'd rather Corsair sell good cheap PSUs (instead of great not-cheap PSUs) than people only have the option of crappy cheap PSUs.
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May 10, 2011 12:56:16 PM

dalauder said:
What's good enough for jonnyGURU.com Recommended is good enough for me. CX430 review: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

I suppose it's not the same as Corsair TX series and especially HX and AX, but it's good enough. I'd rather Corsair sell good cheap PSUs (instead of great not-cheap PSUs) than people only have the option of crappy cheap PSUs.


That piece of junk isn't even 80+ certified and it comes with a 2yr warranty. Even cheap OCZ psu's are ALL 80+ certified AND give you a 3 yr warranty.

I'd buy OCZ before I bought that.

That's great some "guru" named Jonny likes it, he probably gets free stuff from Corsair to give good reviews.

If it's so great, why did they already replace it with a version 2?
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May 10, 2011 11:40:43 PM

I'd take the OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W for $40 after rebate before the CX430. But not when the CX430 is going for $20 after rebate. See other review: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Po...
In terms of cheap PSUs that provide you all the power you need, I haven't found one yet that can beat the CX430 on price/performance.

Good point about the 2 year warranty--that's pretty short. Don't twist my words and say I said this PSU was "so great". I specifically said it was "good" and not "great".

Lots of OCZ PSUs don't get good reviews because they can't do what their label claims. The StealthXStream 2 600W was good though.
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May 11, 2011 2:17:59 PM

The reason it's $20 after rebate is because they are trying to get rid of all the stock, because they are junk.

They have been replaced already with a CX430 Ver. 2.
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May 11, 2011 11:05:15 PM

Yeah, rebates usually exist for a reason [like the one you mentioned].

But you're acting like this is a Logisys PSU or something like that. I guess an Antec Earthwatts might be better, but it's better than an Antec Basiq. The Corsair TX series got replaced (although not nearly so quickly), but the original TX's are still great PSUs.

I just feel like you're not substantiating your claims with any actual evidence or providing a better alternative. But I guess your point is you wouldn't attempt to build a cheap computer and never recommend building a cheap computer or using a PSU that's cheaper than $50?
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