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AM4 Socket CPU Utilizing DDR4?

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August 5, 2011 7:24:35 PM

Early this year Samsung released their first samples of ddr4, they stated that it would be released into the market sometime later this year. Do you guys think AMD will make their new processor line have a ddr4 controller?
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August 5, 2011 7:51:38 PM

Intel is usually the first to transition to newer faster memory (with the exception of DDR but that was due to the RDRam fiasco). Considering though that Llano is really more dependant on memory bandwidth when using the integrated GPU I would expect to see the faster memory on the successor to F1 rather than AM3+.
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August 5, 2011 8:24:12 PM

Samsung 1st and hynix 2nd, who is the next?
Ddr4 still to long to market at 2013 : 5% and 2015 : 50%according JEDeC said.
www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM
and now amd still focus on Prepared release BD. Not to worry.
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August 9, 2011 1:17:50 AM

Computerrock1 said:
Early this year Samsung released their first samples of ddr4, they stated that it would be released into the market sometime later this year. Do you guys think AMD will make their new processor line have a ddr4 controller?


Probably not yet. AMD waits for the new-spec RAM to outperform the older-spec RAM at the same price OR for the newer memory to have the same performance for less money before jumping on the new RAM bandwagon. That's why AMD didn't adopt DDR2 until two years after Intel did and DDR3 until one year after Intel did. AMD also likes to wring out higher speeds of older-spec RAM, such as DDR-500 being supported on E-stepping A64s and DDR2-1066 being supported on AM2+ boards. Intel never went beyond standard-speed DDR-400 and DDR2-800. I also wouldn't count on seeing DDR4 for another couple of years as it is a very immature product and the RAM standards body JEDEC allows for much more speed scaling in DDR3 than they did in DDR or DDR2. DDR and DDR2 officially topped out at a 200 MHz module speed (DDR-400, DDR2-800) while DDR3 officially goes up to a 267 MHz module speed (DDR3-2133.) That will delay DDR4 being faster than DDR3 for quite some time since new-spec RAM is always slower at the same rated speed than the older RAM and new-spec RAM comes in with a 100-133 MHz module speed, which would be DDR4-1600 to DDR4-2133. We'd need to see at least 200 MHz module speeds (DDR4-3200) to see a good benefit for DDR4 over DDR3, and that typically takes some time to accomplish after the new RAM has been introduced. So look for Intel to push slow DDR4 for a couple of years while AMD uses high-clocked DDR3.

Also, AMD is apparently dropping the "AM" nomenclature for sockets in favor of ones that start with "F" due to their whole Fusion branding scheme. I believe "Socket FT1" is the successor to AM3+.

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AM4? am3+ hasnt even been released yet.


Yes, it has. There are a lot of AM3+ boards out there, you can recognize them by their black sockets. Standard AM3 uses a white/beige-colored socket.
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