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May 9, 2011 7:29:11 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: This week (am willing to wait for potential upgrades if it is necessary/better)

Budget Range: 1500-2000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Work, Home use, surfing the internet.

Parts Not Required: Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: no preference-I am pretty much retarded when it comes to putting together a PC, though.

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Whatever is best.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Whichever is better

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (monitor owned outputs as such already.

Additional Comments: Would like a quiet PC, and one that is well cooled.

Parts already owned: ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Speakers 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b 4 Gaming
May 9, 2011 7:47:40 PM

Since gaming is going to be your primary area of use, let’s get you the best processor to build around. The Intel® Core™ I5-2500K is just about the best gaming processor you can get your hands on at this time. Matching the Intel Core I5-2500K up with a nice P67 board will give you some good points at which do build from. If you are going to overclock the processor than, you need to get a good HSF to replace the stock heatsink with this processor.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
May 9, 2011 8:03:52 PM

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$224.99, free shipping, $10 off with promo code HARDOCPX5X4B, ends 5/10

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...
$29.95, free shipping

Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.99, $8.50 shipping

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB (2x4GB) 1333 CL7 1.5v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$104.99, free shipping, $20 off w/ promo code EMCKEKG32, ends 5/9

GPU: 2x MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II/OC
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-R6950-TWIN-FROZR/...
$579.98, free shipping, $25 MIR available (one card only)

SSD: Intel 510 120GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$284.99, free shipping

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...
$61.75, free shipping

Optical: Lite-On 24x DVD Writer OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$21.99, free shipping

PSU: Corsair 750HX
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-750HX-Professional-...
$139.99, free shipping, $10 MIR available

Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Advanced-Tower-Supe...
$159.44, free shipping

OS: Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99, free shipping

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Total: $1876.55 shipped, before promo codes and rebates
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May 10, 2011 2:11:55 AM

I have seen the guides for putting together a PC, and I will ask-is it very difficult to do (like does it require a lot of tools to do the work), or is it a simple process?
May 10, 2011 3:42:14 AM

i just built a i5 2500k build w/ an extreme4 motherboard and the hardest part was installing the cpu cooler. i was just being an idiot though because i thought you couldn't move the screw positions for the hyper 212 + (you can). also all you will need is a phillips head screw driver :) 

what state r u in because taxes make a big difference in price for large purchases!!!

also change that ssd to a 120gb vertex 2 or 3 the sandforce contollers i think are better, but it seems your budget might not handle that just get a 50gb vertex 2 on amazon.

go with a single gtx 570 or 580 even though you will get very high fps with crossfire (u get high fps with 570 & 580's too) their drivers have holes in them and you will notice their lows in fps where as a 570 or 580 will have a higher minimum fps

get a 850w xfx psu on tiger direct it is 99$ with rebate and will handle 570s in sli if you want to upgrade later since a single 570 is good enough now (it is easy to overclock too so you can get nearly 580 performance with a good oc and voltage tweak with msi afterburner which you should download)

as for ram get this 65$ after rebates and you can oc it to 1600mhz also super easy on that mobo.:
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-PC3-10666-1333MHz-Desktop-MD8...

also you dont kneed a full tower case but they are nice if you really want one here is another good option:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Advance-Mid-Tower-R...
you might want to get another fan for it too (it already has 3): http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-120mm-Blue-Case/dp/...

with the money you saved you can spend that money on more games :) 
p.s. you can oc your i5 2500k to 4.4ghz by just turning up the cpu multiplier to 44
May 10, 2011 10:21:38 PM

I am in New York, so taxes are a bit high here.

Thankfully, the guides here are very good, and my stepfather has put computers together before. Also, I forgot to mention that I'll be needed wireless internet capabilities as well.

I am also willing to look into liquid cooling if it is better/more efficient in terms of heating.
May 10, 2011 11:47:31 PM

k then you should really only look for computer parts on amazon and tigerdirect (they usually have the best prices anyways). also the hyper 212+ is perfect for oc's up to 5.0ghz anything above go scythe mungen or liquid cooling. i use the hyper 212+ and it is really fine ive got my 2500k running at 4.8ghz no problem. the temps are actually really good
May 11, 2011 12:05:12 AM

sorry it is called the scyth mugen 2
a b 4 Gaming
May 11, 2011 2:07:54 AM

This build includes dual factory over clocked gtx 560's in SLI, Cooler Master Storm Enforcer (large mid tower that just came out last week), modular 750w 80+ Silver Certified Corsair psu, after market cpu h/s (thermal paste included), gaming router (450Mbps), 450Mbps wireless gaming adapter for your PC (also new on the market), Windows 7, top of the line Logitech gaming keyboard and mouse, and the best part of this build imo ...that Sennhieser gaming headset (I own that particular model and it's heaven). I didn't include speakers for the fact I figured you would be using that headset, but if you want me to throw a pair of Logitech THX certified speakers in here let me know. If you get anything out of this build...that headset and router for sure...but this entire build is quality that will last you for awhile.

*** Most of this build is from Amazon so you don't eat the sales tax.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WK3KKQ/ref=ox_sc_a... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior (SGC-1000-KWN1)

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-750HX-Professional-... $139.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $224.98 FREE SHIPPING
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-i5-2500K-LGA1155-... $224.35 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2500K 3.3GHz 6MB LGA1155 CPU BOX80623I52500K

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_a... $29.51 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SIMPXM/ref=ox_sc_a... $25.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZ... $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZ... $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) OEM System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wireless-Gaming-Adapter-... $89.44
TRENDnet 450 Mbps Wireless N Gaming Adapter TEW-687GA (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OAGOYE/ref=ox_sc_a... $100.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
TRENDnet 450 Mbps Wireless N Gigabit Router TEW-691GR (Piano Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-002232-Gaming-Keyboa... $61.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002J9GDXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech G500 Programmable Gaming Mouse

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-350-Collapsible-Mic... $176.25 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Sennheiser PC 350 Collapsible Gaming Headset with Vol Control & Microphone Mute

Total: $1,877.60

http://www.techwarelabs.com/trendnet-tew-691gr-wireless... <----- Review of that router

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000135#axzz1... <----- review of that wireless adapter

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/768/pg1/sennheise... <----- Review of that Sennheiser gaming headset

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=... <------ more info, specs, and pics of that Gigabyte board

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id... <----- more pics, specs, and professional reviews of that Cooler Master Storm Enforcer case

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/775/1 <----- Review of that Corsair psu

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-froze... <----- review of that MSI gtx 560

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms... <----- review of that MSI gtx 560

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_gtx560_twin... <----- review of that MSI gtx 560

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm <----- MSI Afterburner proggy

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/device... <---- more info, specs, and pics of that keyboard

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/device... <---- more info, specs, and pics of that mouse

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/noise-cancelling-headset-c... <----- more info, specs, and pics of that headset
May 11, 2011 2:30:25 AM

great build yes but out of his budget
a b 4 Gaming
May 11, 2011 2:38:11 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
great build yes but out of his budget

? The OP's budget is $1,500 - $2,000. At least that's what the title to this thread said.
May 11, 2011 3:15:35 AM

oh sorry thought it said 1200$ haha
May 11, 2011 3:29:15 AM

get win7 from amazon though same price no shipp. and no tax. also i would atill get the i5 2500k 225$ from amazon and the asrock p67 extreme4 from here:
http://www.outletpc.com/fb8531.html - total price for mobo= $176.96
and this dvd drive: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002QGDWLK/ref=d...
and i would take this psu: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthusiast-Certified-comp...

also no ssd maybe skimp out on the headset to a 75$ one and get a 50gb vertex 2 ssd at amazon for 100$ and put you favorite game(s), microsoft word if u have it and the os
this ram also: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Platfor... - no taxes haha!
May 11, 2011 7:25:05 PM

I already have a speaker/surround sound system, so I'm good on that.

I'd probably go with another MX 518 mouse, as it has served me well in the past. My current one is running its course as it were.

Most of these look to be in the 1800-1900 range. Sounds like a buy to me. I'll give it a few more days before putting in any orders for some more suggestions. thanks to everyone so far!

May 11, 2011 9:13:10 PM

Skip the two 560's and get a 580 for the same price, and leave some room for later upgrade to SLI. With OC a single 580 will be more than enough to handle any game at 1920x1080, and is the single most powerful 1 gpu nvidia card out there.
May 11, 2011 9:51:39 PM

good point about the gpu. since you already have speakers i would get an ssd
May 12, 2011 7:44:39 PM

In terms of the 580, when OC you say it will handle any game. Does that mean it will run at good FPS, or will I just be getting by?
May 12, 2011 7:49:52 PM

jboy7789 said:
In terms of the 580, when OC you say it will handle any game. Does that mean it will run at good FPS, or will I just be getting by?

The most intensive game out right now is Metro 2033 with full setting enabled in DX11. Even at 2560x1600 the 580 at stock clock speeds runs it at a smurfs ass hair under 60 fps.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-580-gf1...


OCed it will be even faster, and when it comes to other games its just filthy overkill. The 580 as a stand alone card will be fine for years to come and with another in SLI can handle games for the next 3-4 years at least. At 1920x1080 its barely even breaking a sweat.
a b 4 Gaming
May 12, 2011 8:35:22 PM

raptorjesus said:
The most intensive game out right now is Metro 2033 with full setting enabled in DX11. Even at 2560x1600 the 580 at stock clock speeds runs it at a smurfs ass hair under 60 fps.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-580-gf1...


OCed it will be even faster, and when it comes to other games its just filthy overkill. The 580 as a stand alone card will be fine for years to come and with another in SLI can handle games for the next 3-4 years at least. At 1920x1080 its barely even breaking a sweat.

How many peeps add a second card 2 - 4 years down the road? Not many. Why is that ? Because in two - four years from now something better will be out on the market. Dual 560's in SLI are not only cheaper than a single 580, they mop the floor with it ...and when over clocked...and a 560 can be over clocked like no other card on the market today, well it gets even worse for the 580. Right now the 580 is the worst card on the market for price vs performance other than the 590 and the 6990. The 560's are on Nvidia's latest chipset and die. The are a smaller card that runs cool, and they aren't power hungry hogs like the 570's and 580's.

Either way though the OP can't miss. 580, dual 560's....
May 12, 2011 9:19:36 PM

Why_Me said:
How many peeps add a second card 2 - 4 years down the road? Not many. Why is that ? Because in two - four years from now something better will be out on the market. Dual 560's in SLI are not only cheaper than a single 580, they mop the floor with it ...and when over clocked...and a 560 can be over clocked like no other card on the market today, well it gets even worse for the 580. Right now the 580 is the worst card on the market for price vs performance other than the 590 and the 6990. The 560's are on Nvidia's latest chipset and die. The are a smaller card that runs cool, and they aren't power hungry hogs like the 570's and 580's.

Either way though the OP can't miss. 580, dual 560's....


No one adds a card 3 years down the line, but lets posit that maybe he can't swing two now, but after a few months can add another. In that case two 580's that you waited a few months to SLI is vastly superior to two 560s that you are stuck with for the next 3-4 years if you don't want to replace both again.
May 12, 2011 9:48:17 PM

raptorjesus said:
No one adds a card 3 years down the line, but lets posit that maybe he can't swing two now, but after a few months can add another. In that case two 580's that you waited a few months to SLI is vastly superior to two 560s that you are stuck with for the next 3-4 years if you don't want to replace both again.


Dude, if he can't swing SLI 560s he can't swing a single 580...
May 12, 2011 9:54:38 PM

nd_hunter said:
Dude, if he can't swing SLI 560s he can't swing a single 580...

I mean he can't swing two 580s at this time, but maybe in a few months he can add the second. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
May 12, 2011 10:03:01 PM

Long day...makes sense now though. :) 
May 12, 2011 10:03:05 PM

yah i think dual 56o ti's are the way to go great oc'ing capabilities and you will get awesome fps on any game. plus the are cool and quiet unlike the 570 and 580. and when the next great thing comes around you don't need to worry about upgrading the thing you have now
May 13, 2011 5:57:14 PM

It seems that dual oc'ed 560s are much more heavily suggested. Is there anything that has to go into setting up the sli, or is it simply just installing the two vid cards and profitting?

Also, I would much prefer the ssd to the headset in the build you recommended why_me (it seems as if your build comes closest to what I would like, with a few minor changes as recommended, of course).

I'll take a closer look and put the final build together for review. Thanks again for all the help guys!
a b 4 Gaming
May 13, 2011 6:21:42 PM

jboy7789 said:
It seems that dual oc'ed 560s are much more heavily suggested. Is there anything that has to go into setting up the sli, or is it simply just installing the two vid cards and profitting?

Also, I would much prefer the ssd to the headset in the build you recommended why_me (it seems as if your build comes closest to what I would like, with a few minor changes as recommended, of course).

I'll take a closer look and put the final build together for review. Thanks again for all the help guys!

That board comes with a SLI bridge so your good to go there. Just make sure you "download the manual" off the net (Gigabyte site). That manual will most likely be more detailed than the one you receive with the board.

In regards to the one big card now add another one later. There's different factors that play into that. First off with the one big now, add one later you would need a bigger psu (900+w), and then if you didn't plan on adding another card soon...it's a waste of money imo....especially at your resolution.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-sli-re... <---- this review/benchmarks were done with 560's @ factory settings...unlike those factory over clocked MSI 560's up above. Now take into account those 560's can be easily over clocked to run on par with a stock 570. That's like having dual 570's in SLI. That card is the best bang for the buck out there atm.
May 13, 2011 7:53:26 PM

the build looks good just go with the one why_me made with the dual 560 ti's
May 13, 2011 9:07:30 PM

Only thing I'd suggest on why_me's is don't get the PC350s, get HD555s and a table/clip on mic, will save you a bit of money and sound better on your end atleast.
Open cup>Closed cup headphones if you aren't going to lans or anything, and no sweaty ears.
With the 555s you can mod them into 595s, just open them up and remove the foam behind the speakers, feel free to PM me if you need help doing it.
May 14, 2011 3:54:40 AM

Just realized I may have made an error. I already have a wireless router in my home
(though the one mentioned could be useful in the future), so I only need the gaming adapter as far as I know.

Anyway, final build:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] PDKIKX0DER $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior (SGC-1000-KWN1)

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPS [...] 739&sr=1-7 $139.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.637592 $224.98 FREE SHIPPING
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Proces [...] 555&sr=1-2 $224.35 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2500K 3.3GHz 6MB LGA1155 CPU BOX80623I52500K

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] PDKIKX0DER $29.51 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spin [...] 892&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] PDKIKX0DER $25.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Expr [...] B004JLNZXU $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Expr [...] B004JLNZXU $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Prem [...] 935&sr=8-2 $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) OEM System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wir [...] ef=lh_ni_t $89.44
TRENDnet 450 Mbps Wireless N Gaming Adapter TEW-687GA (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] PDKIKX0DER $100.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
TRENDnet 450 Mbps Wireless N Gigabit Router TEW-691GR (Piano Black) <---Kept this in in case necessary

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920 [...] 258&sr=1-1 $61.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gami...
MX 518 High Performance Optical Gaming Mouse (Metal) 37.54

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-Vertex-2-5-Inch-OC... Technology 50 GB Vertex 2 Series SATA II 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SSD) OCZSSD2-2VTX50G 99.88

Total: 1783.78

Any recommendations for a good table mic? I got some Skullcandy's I could use for now, though I'd go with a table mic/headset combo as recommended by farsuka if it'll work out better. With those, it'll still be under 1900 (less if I don't need that router).

Also, installing games and the OS to the SSD-is it tough to do at all, or is it pretty simple?
May 14, 2011 4:24:03 AM

On a 50GB you are gona have a hard time with just OS. I suggest maybe drop a 560 and buy a better SSD (size and brand) and buy another 560/sell the 560 and buy a new card in a year.
May 14, 2011 4:35:32 AM

I could always just go with a bigger ssd and forgoe the headphones. I have some skullcandy's I can use for now.
May 14, 2011 5:24:02 AM

u can get a 60gb for 105$ at amazon
a b 4 Gaming
May 14, 2011 5:25:20 AM

ataryens said:
On a 50GB you are gona have a hard time with just OS. I suggest maybe drop a 560 and buy a better SSD (size and brand) and buy another 560/sell the 560 and buy a new card in a year.

You are suggesting to the OP he drop a 560 so that he can load up his o/s and a proggy or two a few seconds faster on a gaming build? :heink: 
May 14, 2011 12:29:10 PM

No I am suggesting that he shouldnt buy *** small SSD if he wants to put his OS and games on it. He needs to cut something if he wants an ssd and stay at the same budget. (him going for an ssd is really his choice and i assumed he knew the benefits of ssd and if they were important for him.)
I just wanted him to realize that he if wants to buy an ssd for his os and games, then 40GB is not enough but I am sorry if that is incorrect.

Edit:
I think it all comes to the fact what is important to each person:
I think I might have been wrong to think that the OP has the same preferences than me but you MIGHT be suffering from the same thing as this is not just *** gaming build. For example, I am planning on making *** system with *** single 6950 (which i think its close in performance to *** 560Ti) and with *** SSD (close to same budget as OP too), why would I sacrifice graphic power for load speed?:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330 (560ti)
Those frame rates/minimum frame rates at 1900x1200 are more than acceptable for me. (and sometimes ill reduce the setting *** little bit if there is *** game that comes out in 1 year that my computer cant run to my standards.) and I plan on adding another card in 2 years which would allow me to enjoy the latest games.

Would appreciate if you got back to me as it affects my decision about my build as well.

also, why does it make my "***"s or "an"s into ***?
May 15, 2011 4:26:30 AM

Personally, if all the ssd is going to do is increase my boot speed a bit, I'd go without and spend that money elsewhere. My father has already ok'ed anything that hits 2k (Birthday present and graduation present combined in my case), so yeah

If I could just get an answer about what I need to do about the router/adapter for internet, I'm set to order it.
May 15, 2011 4:48:04 AM

ataryens said:
No I am suggesting that he shouldnt buy *** small SSD if he wants to put his OS and games on it. He needs to cut something if he wants an ssd and stay at the same budget. (him going for an ssd is really his choice and i assumed he knew the benefits of ssd and if they were important for him.)
I just wanted him to realize that he if wants to buy an ssd for his os and games, then 40GB is not enough but I am sorry if that is incorrect.

Edit:
I think it all comes to the fact what is important to each person:
I think I might have been wrong to think that the OP has the same preferences than me but you MIGHT be suffering from the same thing as this is not just *** gaming build. For example, I am planning on making *** system with *** single 6950 (which i think its close in performance to *** 560Ti) and with *** SSD (close to same budget as OP too), why would I sacrifice graphic power for load speed?:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330 (560ti)
Those frame rates/minimum frame rates at 1900x1200 are more than acceptable for me. (and sometimes ill reduce the setting *** little bit if there is *** game that comes out in 1 year that my computer cant run to my standards.) and I plan on adding another card in 2 years which would allow me to enjoy the latest games.

Would appreciate if you got back to me as it affects my decision about my build as well.

also, why does it make my "***"s or "an"s into ***?


you wont find the same card in the market 2 years from now. and thats that.
its a gaming build, droping the GPU for an SSD not smart, I do however understand 50gb is not enough, although have in mind that he will have an storage drive.

Technology advance to fast, any one building a system with the idea of dropping a card when he needs more power most likely never gets to do it, at least not talking in " years time frame". i bought my ATI 4890 2 years ago (notice that the 4890 was taken out sale bout 7 to 8 months ago) obviously i cant get a second but even if i could, with all the advancement in the GPU territory it would be so un-wise to purchase a second now.

As for the Op what you need is just an USB wireless dongle to make the system recive wireless. like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b 4 Gaming
May 15, 2011 5:36:17 AM

snakej said:
you wont find the same card in the market 2 years from now. and thats that.
its a gaming build, droping the GPU for an SSD not smart, I do however understand 50gb is not enough, although have in mind that he will have an storage drive.

Technology advance to fast, any one building a system with the idea of dropping a card when he needs more power most likely never gets to do it, at least not talking in " years time frame". i bought my ATI 4890 2 years ago (notice that the 4890 was taken out sale bout 7 to 8 months ago) obviously i cant get a second but even if i could, with all the advancement in the GPU territory it would be so un-wise to purchase a second now.

As for the Op what you need is just an USB wireless dongle to make the system recive wireless. like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

+1

I couldn't have stated it better myself.
May 16, 2011 12:58:50 AM

Excellent. I might just spend an extra buck or two on a nice headphone setup (The HD 555 looks very nice and with the mic is 100 dollars cheaper than what why_me recommended) in that case. Honestly, if all an SSD is going to do is speed my bootup/game load time up a bit, I don't think it's really necessary for me.

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Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior (SGC-1000-KWN1)

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CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

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CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

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Sennheiser HD555 Professional Headphones with Sound Channeling
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Total: $1591.28

With this setup, i think I can stand to spend a little more in some areas now. Perhaps even more powerful vid cards to sli? I'll go find guides on how to OC and SLI the vid cards once I put everything together. I VERY much appreciate all the help, guys. Thank you very much.
May 16, 2011 1:18:11 AM

the Build look solid, i would really think of investing into a better case, before you spend so much on a headset, mouse and keyboard, remember that 2 GPU generate lots of heat, even though the GTX 560 are very efficient, they still going to get hot, they hyper 212 is a good cooler but i would consider shaving off money from peripherals such as mouse, keyboard and headset and put that towards a better heatsink such as the Silver Arrow http://www.amazon.com/THERMALRIGHT-SILVER-ARROW-DUAL14C...
and a full tower like the Haf 932 or the phatom, up to your taste
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Advanced-Tower-Supe...

http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Crafted-Tower-Steel-Chassis/...
May 16, 2011 3:02:10 AM

I would definitely rather upgrade the cooling systems in order to keep the system cooler.

Taking the first option for the tower brings my total to 1716.21, the other is about 20 dollars cheaper. Is there any difference between the two in terms of keeping the unit cool?
May 16, 2011 3:10:38 AM

the difference would be the size of fans that the HAF 932 comes with but the Phantom has very good cable management so is a trade off.

HAF 932:
Cooling System

80mm Fans
No

140mm Fans
1 x 140mm rear fan

230mm Fans
1 x 230mm front red LED fan
1 x 230mm top fan
1 x 230mm side fan

Physical Spec

Dimensions(L x W x H)
22.70" x 9.00" x 21.50"

Weight
29.1 lbs.


PHANTOM:
Cooling System

120mm Fans
1 x 120mm Rear Fan
2 x 120mm Side Fans

200mm Fans
1 x 200mm Top LED Fan

Physical Spec

Dimensions(L x W x H)
24.53" x 8.74" x 21.26"

Weight
24.25 lbs.
May 16, 2011 3:14:10 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
stay with the cooler master better airflow and that cpu cooler i would not recommend i would go with this one 47$:
http://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Mugen-rev-B-SCMG-2100-nick...


I would like to know why.
any how here is why i chose it:

Quote:
The Thermalright Silver Arrow is, overall, the best air cooler on the market.

If you haven’t heard of Thermalright, they are a high-end cooling systems manufacturer that is considered one of the leaders in the industry.

In most cases, it outperforms the former leader, the Noctua NH-D14. Not only that, but the Thermalright is also much more quiet.

However, this is an extremely large cooler (at 147mm(L)x 123mm (W)x 160mm(H), so you should make sure that you have adequate clearance in your case.

It’s not cheap, at $90, but expect to pay that much for the best.

You can also add a third fan to the cooler, although I wouldn’t recommend it as this only lowers temperatures by 1-2C on average.


http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-cpu-coolers-mar...
May 16, 2011 3:26:24 AM

Better cable management sounds a bit more effective in keeping the unit cool.
May 16, 2011 3:43:29 AM

as mention earlier you cant go wrong with either one, it will come down to your taste at the end
a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2011 4:30:15 AM

The gigabyte board isn't a big over clocking board and doesn't require a + $40 cpu h/s. It's not a board that anyone is going to shoot past 4.4+ghz imo. It's a good solid board for the price especially when combo'd with that RAM. That CM212+ will do you just fine with that board.

As far as that CM storm enforcer case goes, if you add the optional 120mm side fan that gives you 2 x 200mm fans and 2 x 120mm fans. Those 560's are a small card and they run cool.

Now if your going to shoot for a higher over clock than this board down below. Pair it up with something like a CM V6 and your most likely looking at 4.8ghz. These Sandy Bridge cpu's run cool and unless your running dual AMD cards (AMD cards run hot) and a case with pure crap air flow that V6 will take you as far as your cpu will go. IMO unless your going for a bigger over clock that gigabyte board will do just fine.

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May 16, 2011 5:00:26 AM

Eh, I think I prefer the original build you provided, why_me. I don't think I'm going to need a bigger OC than I have already. I'm gonna buy the stuff pretty soon. However, all your help (and everyone else's) is massively appreciated.
May 16, 2011 7:27:58 PM

I actually thought of something I might need that I can now afford to fit into the budget quite easily since i'm at 1591-A printer! Lol. Any good suggestions for an efficient color printer?
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