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GTX560 SLI vs GTX580???

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March 4, 2011 11:16:25 AM

Hey all, I've been wondering whether to buy two ASUS GTX560's which i'm guessing perform much better than a single GTX580 and have GREAT features such as: black PCB, dual fan cooling (lots of headroom to play with when overclocking), ASUS logos applied liberally (ASUS fanboy :p  ) and the ability to put one in and put another in LATER for better performance (that of a single 580). But, on the other hand my P8P67 EVO will run out of PCI-E lanes and if I want to upgrade, I would need to buy two WHOLE NEW gpus. :cry: 

So would it be a better decision to; :sarcastic: 
a) Buy a GTX560 now and put another one in later
b) Wait, for what might be up to 10 months and get a 580
(I'm in no rush ATM and have a working PC, but don't want to regret getting 560 SLI and feeling negative on the performance side)

Also, what would be the relative performance of a 560/560SLI and a 580 (like, 'GTX560 = 'X%', GTX560 SLI = 'X%', GTX 580 = 'X%')

This will all be going in the Corsair 650D case with a 2500k/2600k @~5Ghz WC :lol: 

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March 5, 2011 12:22:02 PM

the GTX480 is better than GTX560 and GTX580 is 10% faster to GTX480...the opinion is yours my friend
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March 5, 2011 12:41:26 PM

All I'm going to say is I opened the same thread about a month ago and I'm glad I made the decision I made.

My advice is get as much video card in a single card as you have in your budget or can buy and then SLI later. 2 580s beats two 560s any day. Plus one 580 is pretty impressive in its own right as a single card and only uses one of your slots. Comparing the 400s to the 500s, the heat issues have been corrected with the 500 series cards.

Seriously, you'll be quite impressed with the single 580 and if you add a second one day... it's video bliss. I have experienced absolutely no driver issues with SLI (whereas with crossfire, every driver release had some issue) so even if you go with the 560s, it won't be a bad choice.

I suggest you go with a single 580 with an eye on the SLI future, but I also know how it is when you want to improve your immediate situation. 2 560s would be a great setup as well.
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March 5, 2011 12:44:42 PM

i agree....the single 580 is better or wait GTX590x2 (the card must have two gpu 580 {GF110})
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March 5, 2011 12:49:50 PM

johnk10 said:
i agree....the single 580 is better or wait GTX590x2 (the card must have two gpu 580)

I know. I wonder what the 590 will retail at?
March 5, 2011 11:52:49 PM

You guys have to remember I am limited to Australia's totally up pricing. The ASUS GTX560 is cheapest in the country @ 300$, the GTX580 goes anywhere from 650$ to 700$..
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March 5, 2011 11:56:27 PM

An overclocked GTX580 is just about on par with two GTX560s in SLi.
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March 6, 2011 12:24:43 AM

omnisome said:
An overclocked GTX580 is just about on par with two GTX560s in SLi.

About 10% faster, and that's for the stock clocked 560's, which are practically non-existent.
March 6, 2011 12:34:46 AM

sli 560s would be a little more powerful than a single 580 but they would probably use more power, and heat up more too.
March 6, 2011 2:57:22 AM

Im gonna have to say SLI.... I have two 460's( I never buy the new stuff... :( ) and so far they are great!!! I'll upgrade when the 6 or 7 series comes out! Lol!
March 6, 2011 4:11:54 AM

As for all of you talking about temps ect, I would be getting the ASUS and overclocking core to ~1Ghz.
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March 6, 2011 5:43:44 AM

intel1502 said:
As for all of you talking about temps ect, I would be getting the ASUS and overclocking core to ~1Ghz.

Why would you do that when the Gigabyte SOC and Sparkle Calibre come factory overclocked at 1 Ghz?
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March 6, 2011 5:46:47 AM

Cash091 said:
Im gonna have to say SLI.... I have two 460's( I never buy the new stuff... :( ) and so far they are great!!! I'll upgrade when the 6 or 7 series comes out! Lol!

That seems like a pretty good choice!
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/02/geforce_gtx_5...
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March 6, 2011 12:27:06 PM

intel1502 said:
You guys have to remember I am limited to Australia's totally up pricing. The ASUS GTX560 is cheapest in the country @ 300$, the GTX580 goes anywhere from 650$ to 700$..

That is messed up.
March 7, 2011 8:52:49 AM

17seconds said:
Why would you do that when the Gigabyte SOC and Sparkle Calibre come factory overclocked at 1 Ghz?


that would take the total price from 600$ to 700$
March 8, 2011 8:13:31 AM

stop giving bad advice kid just get two 560 cheaper, stereoscopic, and its less hotter dude only get the 580 if u like to waste money but otherwise two 560 in sli are better look it up on reviews if u dont believe me, they get around 5-10 FPS higher than 580
so in conclusion if u have a good 850-1000 watt PSU go for two 560 if not then go for a 580 although u do miss out on the three plus monitor thing(stereoscopic) and lesser performance
my system
I7 2600k
ASUS ASRock P67 Extreme 6
Two Sli GTX 470
Sliverstone Strider 1000Watt gold
G.skill (2x4gb) 1600mhz
Sliverstone Raven 02
2x 60 gb SSD Vertex 2 Raid 0
2 Tb WD Green
Ek Supreme HF plexi
XSPC RS360 Radiator
EK 4.0DCP 12v pump
3x Silent CM blue fans
XSPC 5.25 bay res
Ek-GTX470 Acteal (yet to arrive) x2
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March 8, 2011 10:32:20 AM

uniman6699 said:
stop giving bad advice kid just get two 560 cheaper, stereoscopic, and its less hotter dude only get the 580 if u like to waste money but otherwise two 560 in sli are better look it up on reviews if u dont believe me, they get around 5-10 FPS higher than 580
so in conclusion if u have a good 850-1000 watt PSU go for two 560 if not then go for a 580 although u do miss out on the three plus monitor thing(stereoscopic) and lesser performance
my system
I7 2600k
ASUS ASRock P67 Extreme 6
Two Sli GTX 470
Sliverstone Strider 1000Watt gold
G.skill (2x4gb) 1600mhz
Sliverstone Raven 02
2x 60 gb SSD Vertex 2 Raid 0
2 Tb WD Green
Ek Supreme HF plexi
XSPC RS360 Radiator
EK 4.0DCP 12v pump
3x Silent CM blue fans
XSPC 5.25 bay res
Ek-GTX470 Acteal (yet to arrive) x2

If you get two 560s now, you will have slightly better performance now, but you'll be using two slots.

It's just a point of whether you want to sacrifice a little performance now by getting one 580 for better performance later (at some point you may want to SLI two 580s?).

It's the age-old struggle of immediate vs. delayed gratification. One 580 is definitely not a waste of money.
March 9, 2011 10:50:24 PM

While im here I might aswell put my build idea out there so you can all harass me about bottlenecks (but seriously, would this bottleneck?) :na: 


Case: 1x Corsair 650D ~$300

Power Supply: 1x Corsair HX-850w =$220

Memory: 1x Corsair Vengeance 1600C8 8GB =$180

Hard Drive: 2x WD 500GB Caviar Blue [RAID-1] =$90

Processor: 1x Intel Core i7 2600K =$400

Motherboard: 1x Asus P8P67 EVO =$255

Graphics: 1x Asus GTX560 =$300

Accessories: 1x Scythe Kaze Master ACE =$50

Watercooling Kit: 1x XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 =$149

Water: 1x Thermochill EC6 – UV Blue ~$20

UV Lighting: 1x Dual Logisys 12" UV Cathode kit ~$20

Fans: 1x Gelid Wing 12 UV Blue fans 4 pack $49

Total: ~$2050 + ~$30 shipping
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March 10, 2011 12:43:29 PM

No real bottlenecks with the exception of your disks and video card. Get Caviar Blacks if possible to maximize performance.

Also, a full tower is always great for cooling and working (800D?). Where will you put the water cooling components in that 650D case (drive bays?)? Or will you have a lot of external components?

What's funny is, after all this GPU talk, your GPU will be the real limiting factor on that system. That's saying a lot though. Because even with a card that good, you're system will handle so much more with absolutely no problem.
March 12, 2011 3:46:10 PM

The watercooling will be up top in the 650D and i'm thinking of trading off the i7 for an i5 and getting a SSD, is it really worth it though? I'm also just going to pop in my old gts250 and wait till i have enough cash for a 580 down the track.

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March 13, 2011 1:16:13 PM
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intel1502 said:
The watercooling will be up top in the 650D and i'm thinking of trading off the i7 for an i5 and getting a SSD, is it really worth it though? I'm also just going to pop in my old gts250 and wait till i have enough cash for a 580 down the track.

I like that plan. You won't be disappointed once you get the 580.

Concerning the SSD... I use my SSD as my OS/boot and driver software drive. My theory is, no matter what you're running, this data is constantly being accessed at different times, so the quicker the data retrieval, the better the performance. I can tell you from my own experience, everything is extremely responsive as a result of this setup. The only case I found where the SSD disk is a problem is when you run ProTools and M-audio devices (because they install additional storage drivers that don't seem quite compatible with SSD).

I have one black drive setup for running any other app and another one just for data storage.
March 14, 2011 1:29:13 PM

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