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May 12, 2011 11:37:10 PM

Well after researching everything possible and then some I still feel like I know nothing... Which leads me here. Im doing a medium budget gaming build and would be greatly appreciative of any and all help I can get. So here it goes..

I have a samsung LCD tv that I will using as a monitor until I can upgrade model number LN-S2651D. The parts I am have picked thus far are

1) CoolerMaster 690 II
2) P8P67 Pro Mobo
3) G.Skill 4gb 2x2 1600 (Cant recall exact name)
4) Xfi Titanium Sound Card

Now where I'm stuck is GPU and there for also PSU the cards I've been looking at are AMD 6870 and GTX 560. From what I have read these are both vast over kill for the monitor if I don't upgrade. So my question is are these GPU's ones I should be considering? Or are there more suitable options I'd like to have some what "futureproof" cards if I SLI or Crossfire with better monitor but for this monitor if I don't upgrade and stick with single card what would be best? Games would be things such as Star Craft 2, Crysis 1 and 2, WoW
basically the norm would like card to not be to old as to not have hdmi out or not support dx11 for newer games, however you all probably know better than me so by all means please educate me haha

Thanks on advance for any help.

Approximate Purchase Date: (e.g.: this week (the closer the better))
 
Budget Range: 600-900
 
System Usage from Most to Least important: Games, Movies, Internet
 
 
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: tiger, newegg, buy, ect.
 
Country of Origin: USA
 
Parts Preferences:
 
Overclocking: Maybe (Never have tried before)
 
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe (Again never had a computer worth it haha)
 
Monitor Resolution: Samsung 720p tv

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May 12, 2011 11:48:31 PM

I'd look at the ATi 6950 2GB (free upgrade to the 6970). X-Fire plain and simple scales better for multiple cards. ATi has always beat nVidia on TV displays. For the PSU, don't cheap out. Pick up a 550W (80+) or better PSU from: Antec, PC P&C, Silverstone, Corsair, or OCZ. ATi also passes sound via the HDMI. The only additional thing I'll mention is to pick up more RAM (8GB is about $100).

"There is no such thing as overkill. Only Open Fire, and Reload."
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May 12, 2011 11:59:04 PM

Thanks alot for the fast reply and alright I'll take a look at the 6950 2gb and was planning on getting 4 more gigs of ram just already have the dual channel 4gb's.
May 13, 2011 12:02:57 AM

IH8U said:
I'd look at the ATi 6950 2GB (free upgrade to the 6970). X-Fire plain and simple scales better for multiple cards. ATi has always beat nVidia on TV displays. For the PSU, don't cheap out. Pick up a 550W (80+) or better PSU from: Antec, PC P&C, Silverstone, Corsair, or OCZ. ATi also passes sound via the HDMI. The only additional thing I'll mention is to pick up more RAM (8GB is about $100).

"There is no such thing as overkill. Only Open Fire, and Reload."


The 6950 is a killer card. 650w PSU is the min I would recommend for Crossfired 6950s. OCZ is not a quality PSU manufacturer. 4GB of RAM is plenty for a gaming build, but if the budget allows, 8GB is justifiable.
May 13, 2011 12:02:59 AM

And nd_hunter I was actually just doing that happen to see it just after I wrote the message up.
May 13, 2011 12:51:47 AM

Do you need an OS or any other peripherals besides a monitor? What exactly are you recycling besides memory? We also need to know the specs on the memory so we can find a matching set.
May 13, 2011 1:37:29 AM

I need perphials but there not included in the budget for the computer itself... But the memory i have is G.Skill 7-8-7-24 1600 as far as recycling I plan to blow the old computer up it such a pos.
May 13, 2011 1:54:23 AM

The z68 M/B's are slowly coming to market and are worth your consideration.
May 13, 2011 1:39:09 PM

Reidchabot said:
I need perphials but there not included in the budget for the computer itself... But the memory i have is G.Skill 7-8-7-24 1600 as far as recycling I plan to blow the old computer up it such a pos.


Lol. Is that a 2x2GB set? What's the voltage?

By movies, did you mean watching movies or ripping and encoding movies? Or both? If just watching, Z68 won't really give you any benefit unless you want the newest tech or want to add a small SSD later for caching.
May 13, 2011 5:06:58 PM

Both to the watching and ripping but yes its a 2x2 dual channel 1.5v
May 13, 2011 11:39:57 PM

Well that's easy enough on the memory. With $900 you could probably afford an 8GB kit for a total of 12GB. Z68 would be the way to go for you then. Give me a little bit and I'll come back with a build. And you can drop that sound card. Onboard audio is pretty good these days. If you're not happy with it, you can always add a card later. I won't include one in my list...
May 14, 2011 12:38:38 AM

Looks like I was a little overzealous with my claim of adding 8GB of RAM...you'll have to rock your 4GB for awhile. Don't worry, gaming won't use more than that anyway. My list includes a different case but if you are totally set on that Cooler Master 690 II, add $25 to the total. Here's a link with free shipping
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Advance-Mid-Tower-R...

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$199.99, $8.50 shipping
* This mobo includes Lucid Virtu. This will allow the use of Quick Sync while a discrete GPU is installed. Basically, that means very quick (comparatively) encoding times. This board also supports x8/x8 Crossfire.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$224.99, free shipping
* This CPU is "unlocked" and allows for overclocking. I didn't include an aftermarket cooler at this time due to budget constraints, but you can still reach low 4's and a cooler can be added later for a higher overclock.

PSU: XFX 'XXX Edition' 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$88.99, $3.99 shipping, $30 MIR available
* This is a top-tier PSU made by Seasonic for XFX. The price can't be beat before the rebate and is ridiculously low after.

Case: Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$54.99, free shipping

GPU: Sapphire HD 6950 2GB
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Ex...
$262.99, free shipping, $30 MIR available

Optical: LG 22x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99

HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern...
$59.99, free shipping

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Total: $924.42 shipped, $864.42 after rebates
May 14, 2011 3:29:40 AM

Wow that's a pretty awesome build thanks and a sick deal on that psu! You think that psu will be enough tho for any future gpu changes or sli or crossfire? Also was wondering your opinion on a gigabyte gtx 560 soc apposed to the 6950? And real difference for the same price since I've read the extra gig on the 6960 adds only minimal gains (1-5 fps)
May 14, 2011 3:32:39 AM

Oh one other thing you have any good recommendations for a good blu ray read and DVD and CD burn optical? I have some movies I would like to back up to a 1td external.
May 14, 2011 3:36:14 AM

that 6950 2gb wont flash to a 6970 only the reference card can. also what games will you be playing because the nvidia card leans to war games and the 6950 has some games of its own
May 14, 2011 7:30:40 AM

The unlockable 6950s are pretty much sold out. And 650w is plenty for Crossfired 6950s.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1488/18/ <-- Overclocked i7 930, readings at the wall, multiply 479 by .9 to get PSU output of 431 watts.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way... <-- Overclocked i7-2600k, readings at the wall, multiply432 by .9 to get PSU ouput of 389 watts.

This also shows the great power savings of the Sandy Bridge architecture :) 

The extra RAM makes a difference as the resolution gets higher. You won't notice it at 720p but would if you stepped up to a 2560x1600 display or gamed in Eyefinity. The main point of that article by Tom's was to report on the difference (if any) in AMD and nVidia scaling. They actually determined that Crossfire with current generation cards is superior to SLI with current generation cards.
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