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May 13, 2011 8:42:09 AM

Im gonna buy this PC at the end of the month ,

Budget Range: 600-800$ before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: MMO Gaming , Surfing the web , Movies

Parts Not Required: Keyboard&Mouse, OS , speaker. ( i need a decent monitor .. )

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences:

Overclocking: DifiniteLy No since this PC will run aLmost 24/7


SLI or Crossfire: yes maybe on bLack friday ..


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

additionaL comments - i want a case that i can see inside .. and pLease if its red i want everything red if its bLue i want everything bLue .. i was dead set on Lian Li pc-k62 but the price just changed to 110$ -.-" it was just 99$ so im looking another case that has window , cabLe management and high airfLow for my 24/7 PC .. this is gonna be my first time buiLding pLease heLp !!

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May 13, 2011 9:11:18 AM

1. Corsair TX 750 $100.00
2. Intel I-5 2500K $210
3. ATI 6850 $160
4. ASUS ASUS P8Z68-V PRO $209 (or go to the P67 platform with the ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) - $150)
5. Go with the Lian Li - you like it $110
6. Monitor - you don't have the budget for a monitor - try Asus VH236H $179 (recommended by CNET.com)
7. 4GB (2 x 2GB) Corsair RAM $35.00

This puts you at $968 for the Z68 platform or $944 for the P67. You can cut corners from here with a smaller CPU like the 2400 and a smaller GPU like the ATI 5770 and a cheaper case which would put you near the $800 mark but I wouldn't. This is a great system and it is worth the extra $168.00 over your $800 budget. Unchanged it will provide you with a wicked fast computer that will play any game and you'll be set up for crossfire.

Sorry I couldn't get you near the $600 mark. If you need an HDD get the Samsung F3 1 TB $55.00
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May 13, 2011 9:15:33 AM

The CM 922 is $89.00 at NewEgg right now and it is similar to the Lian Li you like
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May 13, 2011 9:19:40 AM

almost same as my buiLd .. but isnt it a waste to go for i5-2500k since i wont be overcLocking ?
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May 13, 2011 10:48:20 AM
May 13, 2011 5:03:49 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-ph...

Add 80$ for a HD6950 2GB(around 250$ after rebates)

Thats 600$ add a monitor for 200$ and that will game like nothing else at this budget.

U have few choices for a processor tho.
Phenom II x4 955BE being the best
and athlon II x3 435 is a cheaper option.
There's also the athlon II x4 645 in the middle.

Good luck.
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May 13, 2011 5:24:15 PM

guys im really confuse now . i wont be overcLocking because my this setup i will buiLd will be running aLmost 24/7 .. or 18 hours a day .. thats why i dont Like overcLocking ..

what CPU + MOBO + RAM shouLd i buy then ? :( 
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May 13, 2011 7:37:51 PM

flong said:
1. Corsair TX 750 $100.00
2. Intel I-5 2500K $210
3. ATI 6850 $160
4. ASUS ASUS P8Z68-V PRO $209 (or go to the P67 platform with the ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) - $150)
5. Go with the Lian Li - you like it $110
6. Monitor - you don't have the budget for a monitor - try Asus VH236H $179 (recommended by CNET.com)
7. 4GB (2 x 2GB) Corsair RAM $35.00

This puts you at $968 for the Z68 platform or $944 for the P67. You can cut corners from here with a smaller CPU like the 2400 and a smaller GPU like the ATI 5770 and a cheaper case which would put you near the $800 mark but I wouldn't. This is a great system and it is worth the extra $168.00 over your $800 budget. Unchanged it will provide you with a wicked fast computer that will play any game and you'll be set up for crossfire.

Sorry I couldn't get you near the $600 mark. If you need an HDD get the Samsung F3 1 TB $55.00


Im willing to Spend over $800 .. but i dont want to go over $1000 ..
and again i wont be overcLocking .. dont you think its a waste to buiLd SB buiLd since im not gonna overcLock it.. i want it to last long and my PC will run 24/7 when i buiLd it..
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May 13, 2011 8:19:52 PM

The up time of your computer has no relation to overclocking, but if you aren't comfortable with it don't do it.

I see that you don't need an OS. Does that mean you have a 64-bit version of Vista or Win 7?
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May 14, 2011 11:35:49 AM

-jB said:
Im willing to Spend over $800 .. but i dont want to go over $1000 ..
and again i wont be overcLocking .. dont you think its a waste to buiLd SB buiLd since im not gonna overcLock it.. i want it to last long and my PC will run 24/7 when i buiLd it..


Look, don't worry about overclocking worry about the best and fastest CPU for the money and that hands down is the 2500K - nearly every computer forum agrees with this. It is the best and fastest CPU for the money, period.

Also focus on this, the 2500K, which you can overclock is only about $20.00 more that the 2500 which you cannot overclock and so it does not make much sense to get the non-K 2500. You may not want to overclock now, but later if you need more speed, you can easily get it by a simple overclock.

Think about this, new versions of games are coming out all the time that require more CPU speed. If you by the 2500 and it becomes too slow to play your favorite game your stuck - you have to buy a new CPU and probably and new motherboard (like the Sandy Bridge E). With the 2500K you have the option to almost double the speed by overclocking which is very simple with the K chips. For $20.00, isn' that option worth it?

Also keep in mind that the 2500K is more than twice as fast as the X4 without overclocking and IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH MORE. I am not putting down the AMD users here, I am just saying that the X4 is no match for the 2500K.

I get it that you don't want to overclock - but you should still buy the best CPU for the money - the one that has the biggest bang for your buck. This is especially true because you game.

Proximon listed a good system for you and deserves credit. The X4 gets good reviews but it is an older CPU and AMD is coming out with new CPUs fairly soon so the X4 is going the way of the dinosaur. The 2500K is new and will stay around for awhile.

BTW, the Corsair 850 HX is on sale at Newegg for $119.00 (after rebates) - this is a sic price for one of the best PSUs on the market. It is modular which means it has separate cables for each item that you plug into it and this makes building you pc much easier.

Just remember you need a P67 mobo or a Z68 mobo for the 2500K.
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May 14, 2011 11:36:57 AM

BTW Proximon makes another excellent point - you need the 64 bit version of Windows 7. Good job Proximon.
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May 14, 2011 5:25:43 PM

thank you so much fLong .. ill select your answer as "BEST "ANSWer" after this my Last QUESTION ..
so my buiLd will be and will be settLed is

1. Corsair TX 750 $100.00 -----or is 650 enough ?
2. Intel I-5 2500K $210
3. ATI 6850 $160
4. Asus ASUS P8Z68-V PRO $209 (or go to the P67 platform with the ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) - $150) -------- what mobo shouLd i get ? is this the cheapest and the most reLiabLe mobo i can get with SB buiLd ?
5. CM Enforcer - $89
6. Monitor - you don't have the budget for a monitor - try Asus VH236H $179 (recommended by CNET.com)
7. 4GB (2 x 2GB) Corsair RAM $35.00
8. 1TB Samsung Spinpoint - 60$
9. DVD writer - 22$
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May 14, 2011 5:29:26 PM

Proximon said:
The up time of your computer has no relation to overclocking, but if you aren't comfortable with it don't do it.

I see that you don't need an OS. Does that mean you have a 64-bit version of Vista or Win 7?


Im gonna use W7 64-bit .. why ?
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May 14, 2011 7:00:48 PM

-jB said:
Im gonna use W7 64-bit .. why ?


Because you need a 64-bit OS in order to use all 4GB of RAM. 32-bit OSes can only utilize between 3 and 3.5GB usually.
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May 14, 2011 7:31:29 PM

Proximon said:
Because you need a 64-bit OS in order to use all 4GB of RAM. 32-bit OSes can only utilize between 3 and 3.5GB usually.



thanks for the info .. didnt know that .. anyways in your opinion , what OS is do you think is the best ?
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May 14, 2011 7:40:05 PM

Win 7 64-bit Premium. OEM if you must but full version if you can afford it. OEM version is married to the motherboard it is installed on... you can never transfer it to another computer. Full version will survive a major upgrade.

Windows licensing is tricky. If you have a full version of XP or Vista around (non-OEM and not being used) you can also purchase a full upgrade version of Win 7 and use that. Costs less than the full version but can be re-used.
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May 15, 2011 5:37:13 AM

-jB said:
thank you so much fLong .. ill select your answer as "BEST "ANSWer" after this my Last QUESTION ..
so my buiLd will be and will be settLed is

1. Corsair TX 750 $100.00 -----or is 650 enough ?
2. Intel I-5 2500K $210
3. ATI 6850 $160
4. Asus ASUS P8Z68-V PRO $209 (or go to the P67 platform with the ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) - $150) -------- what mobo shouLd i get ? is this the cheapest and the most reLiabLe mobo i can get with SB buiLd ?
5. CM Enforcer - $89
6. Monitor - you don't have the budget for a monitor - try Asus VH236H $179 (recommended by CNET.com)
7. 4GB (2 x 2GB) Corsair RAM $35.00
8. 1TB Samsung Spinpoint - 60$
9. DVD writer - 22$


Get the Corsair 850 HX at NewEgg - it is listed here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With rebates it is only $119.00. It is way overkill for your build as far as size but it has a 7 year warranty (the best in the business) and it will provide you enough capacity (headroom) for your next build which will likely need more wattage. The 850 HX actually will safely put out over 1000 W (as listed in several reviews) and so it is like buying a high quality 1000 W PSU for $119.00. This is a fantastic value.

This PSU is a steal at this price. The 850 HX beat the Antec 850 PSU which costs twice as much. Antec are considered by many to be one of the best PSU makers out there. The 850 HX is pretty much the number one rated PSU in reviews or at least in the the top three.

It is also modular, which means that Corsair supplies a separate power line for every item that you want to connect in your computer. This makes building your computer easier and cleaner.

It is also one of the most stable PSUs available which means it will protect all your expensive computer parts as you run your computer 24 hrs/day. It has almost no "ripple" on its rails, which means the current doesn't fluctuate to your components. This extends the life of your components and protects them from early failure.

I sugget that you google "Corsair 850 HX reviews" and read some of the glowing reviews that this unit has gotten. For the extra $19.00 over the TX 750 model you get modular cables and over 100 W more capacity for future builds. After reading dozens of reviews this is the PSU that I bought and I paid $144.00 for it at the time and thought I got a steal.

Concerning motherboards, EVERY review I have read about the ASUS Pro boards has been glowing. The professional reviewers love this board for its quality. More importantly, it appears that the Asus boards are very user friendly for first time builders which is important to me.

There are two versions, the P67 ASUS Pro and the Z68 ASUS Pro. I would recommend that you go with the Z68 platform if you can afford it (it costs about $50.00 more) because it offers many advantages that the P67 platform doesn't. There is a review at Hardware Canucks or the Pro 68 motherboard here: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

Keep in mind that the "virtu" software packaged with the Asus Z68 which allows you to use the internal graphics card AND a discrete (separate) graphics card like the ATI 6850, is buggy and you may want to avoid using it when you set up your bios the first time and just run your graphics off of the ATI 6850 which is more than capable of doing a great job for you.

The P67 Pro is cheaper and not as complicated as the Z68 Pro. It also will not do as much. Either would work for your needs. The Z68 is the newest board out there and is more "future proof" if there is such a thing.

Keep in mind that there are cheaper versions of Sandy Bridge motherboards, but the difference in cost is about $50.00. For the $50.00 it is much better to go with the Asus Pro versions because of the quality and ease of use. For the money I don't think that there is a better beginner board out there right now. MSI makes some good boards and a lot of people like Gigabyte - but Asus seems to be the top quality maker.

If you can't afford the Z68 board, buy the P67. It is only $150 and you can upgrade a couple of years from now with the Sandy Bride E CPU and a new motherboard. But buy the Z68 if you can afford it.

Also, if you can afford it watch Newegg for RAM specials. Both Corsair and Gskill often have 2 x 4 GB DDR 3 1600 CL9 RAM kits for sale at $75.00. 8 GB of RAM DDR3 1600 or 1866 is the sweet spot for cost vs performance. I think that the Corsair is better quality and I hear a lot of good things about Kingston RAM memory in reviews.

Good luck with your build :-)
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May 15, 2011 8:36:03 AM

thanks for the info about the PSU .. ill be getting that one too ..
i was thinking to get asrock extreme4 but after your message .. well i guess ill be ok with Asus p67 then .. i guess ill just get a 2x2 RAM .. what shouLd i get then ..

as far of now .. your one of the best guy here in forum .. More Power ..
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May 15, 2011 6:11:08 PM

-jB said:
thanks for the info about the PSU .. ill be getting that one too ..
i was thinking to get asrock extreme4 but after your message .. well i guess ill be ok with Asus p67 then .. i guess ill just get a 2x2 RAM .. what shouLd i get then ..

as far of now .. your one of the best guy here in forum .. More Power ..


If you can afford it get 8 GB of 1600 or 1866 RAM. On newegg if you watch you can get Corsair or Gskill at 2 x 4 GB DDR3 1600 CL9 RAM kits for $75.00 on sale (normally they are $100.00). Also check Amazon and Tiger Direct for the best pricing.
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May 15, 2011 6:53:38 PM

i guess ill just copy to other person .. what ram they are getting .. is that the cheapest i can have.. :o 
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