Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

$1000 max build/$800 target

Last response: in Systems
Share
May 13, 2011 1:26:57 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 week

Budget Range: (e.g.: 600-800) $700-$1000 Large range I know. I'd like to stay under $800, but if I need to spend a little more for the multitasking power I want, so be it. Also, the build below somewhat accounts for an additional monitor and a cooler if I decide to purchase the extras when I make the new build.


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, video encoding, web browsing, additional tv

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, monitor (though I'd like a new one to run two monitors, one to game and the other for productivity apps)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Leaning towards AMD due to black edition overclocking and price

Overclocking: Maybe (looking at a cooler for around 30-40$)


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe (been in Afghanistan, don't know price to performance differences for one or two card configs)


Monitor Resolution: Unsure Acer model bought in 2003/2004 19"

Additional Comments: Want something upgradable (AM3+?) that will perform well into the future. My gaming is not heavy with new titles. Strategy games like Total War that runs many scripts will be the most demanding it'll get. Fast encoding is desired. Thinking about a new TV card, have a Compro from about 8 years ago that still does the job. Biggest concern is the dual monitor and strong multitasking power. Not sure if I should be looking at more cores. Unsure about the physical core and virtual core makeup. My video card choice may be too much, but I want a good GPU for apps that are GPU intensive/multitasking/multi-monitor. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What I have so far-

Update11-119-106 COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Model #:RC-534-KKN2-GP
Item #:N82E16811119106
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add11-119-106)


Save Cancel $54.99 $54.99
. .
Update13-130-275 MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:870A-G54
Item #:N82E16813130275
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add13-130-275)


Save Cancel $99.99 $99.99
. .
Update14-150-515 XFX HD-685X-ZDFC Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Model #:HD-685X-ZDFC
Item #:N82E16814150515
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate14-150-515

Note (Add14-150-515)


Save Cancel $184.99 $184.99
. .
Update17-139-005 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible ...
Model #:CMPSU-650TX
Item #:N82E16817139005
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card17-139-005

Note (Add17-139-005)


Save Cancel $119.99 -$30.00 Instant $89.99
. .
Update19-103-727 AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Model #:HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #:N82E16819103727
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add19-103-727)


Save Cancel $139.99 $139.99
. .
Update20-231-277 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Model #:F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Item #:N82E16820231277
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add20-231-277)


Save Cancel $49.99 -$10.00 Instant $39.99
. .
Update22-148-697 Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:ST31000524AS
Item #:N82E16822148697
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add22-148-697)


Save Cancel $64.99 -$5.00 Instant $59.99
. .
Update27-106-335 LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
Model #:iHAS424-98
Item #:N82E16827106335
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add27-106-335)


Save Cancel $25.99 $25.99
. .
Update32-116-986 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM
Model #:GFC-02050
Item #:N82E16832116986
Return Policy:Software Standard Return Policy
In Stock

May 13, 2011 4:22:39 PM

Not a bad first draft, but I'm gonna break it down.
As of right now, sandy bridge is the top dog. A sandy bridge processor, even a dual core, will DESTROY all of amd's offerings, simply because of the newer tech. Here is a benchmark showing the Phenom II x4 965 vs the i5-2400, which is the processor i'm going to recommend. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=102 (make sure to note the higher is better/lower is better under each result)

As you can see, the 2400 clearly outpaces the 965.
With that in mind, I have compiled the following build:

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $100

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $190

Video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $259 before rebate

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $65

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $60

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $60
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $65 before rebate
(I would prefer the OCZ, but some people for some reason don't like them >.>)

DVD drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $25

Windows 7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99

That brings us to ~$900 for an awesome build :) 
m
0
l
Related resources
May 14, 2011 2:31:40 AM

2312542,3,846017 said:
Not a bad first draft, but I'm gonna break it down.
As of right now, sandy bridge is the top dog. A sandy bridge processor, even a dual core, will DESTROY all of amd's offerings, simply because of the newer tech. Here is a benchmark showing the Phenom II x4 965 vs the i5-2400, which is the processor i'm going to recommend. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=102 (make sure to note the higher is better/lower is better under each result)

Not the I3 the BE PHenoms can beat the I3 in a few scenarios!
m
0
l
May 14, 2011 2:50:17 AM

i listed the i5-2400, which isnt beat by the phenom II's.
m
0
l
May 14, 2011 3:44:30 AM
May 14, 2011 3:55:44 AM

^+1

I also have a build in my siggy (600$ build) it'd be enough for your usage really. At 19" it shouldn't be larger than 720P or 1280x1024 and so a 5850 is more than enough to handle that resolution. I actually fear the 6950 would bottleneck you at such a small resolution. You can change the i3 2100 to an i5 2400 if you'd like.
m
0
l
May 15, 2011 6:26:20 AM

what's the biggest difference between the physical and virtual cores with sandy bridge and the older phenoms?
m
0
l
May 15, 2011 7:58:37 AM

I think that it would be better to pay the extra $30 or so and move up to the I-5 2500K. It is amazingly fast and like I said, it doesn't cost that much more.

Also, the Corsair 850 HX is on sale right now for $119.00 at Newegg. Granted, it is way overkill for your power needs but it is an amazing, top rated PSU for about $30 more than what your looking at. It is also modular (it has separate cables for each component) and so it is easier to build with and cleaner. It usually ranks in the top three for PSU reviews by professional computer websites

Either the ATI 6850 or 6950 would be great choice for you. Right now the XFX 1 GB 6950 is only about $200.00 at newegg - this puts it almost in the same price bracket as the 6850.

The Asus Pro P67 motherboard is only $150 and it is a top rated board with most of the best features available.
m
0
l
May 15, 2011 2:17:25 PM

Are some of those products you suggested not overkill? I remember about two years back many would say modular psus are troublesome with power delivery. Has this been addressed? I've been out of the game for awhile. I thought I remember enthusiasts not caring for psus that weren't hard wire.
m
0
l
May 16, 2011 8:54:59 AM

goony20 said:
Are some of those products you suggested not overkill? I remember about two years back many would say modular psus are troublesome with power delivery. Has this been addressed? I've been out of the game for awhile. I thought I remember enthusiasts not caring for psus that weren't hard wire.


No, not for the uses that you list in your first post up above. The 2500K is easily the best CPU for the uses you list. The ASUS P67 Pro is pretty cheap at $150 and it got rave reviews. You want to game and Tom's Hardware recommends the ATI 6950 1 GB as the best card for $245.00. If it is that good at $245, how about a sale price on XFX ATI 6950 1 GB of $209 at Newegg listed here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This card has a double lifetime warranty

I would Google "Corsair 850 HX reviews," and read some of the reviews. It may be the highest rated PSU out there. It certainly is in the top three. I own it and I have not had any problems with the modular connections. Think about it, the modular connectors are the same that the non-modular PSUs use to connect to components - they just don't have a separate cable for each component (and they are not "flat"). So it really makes little sense to criticize the connectors of a modular system compared to a non-modular. I guess the hard-wired comment makes some sense, but I doubt that one extra connector per line makes any significant difference.

Anyway the reviews of the 850 HX rate it as one of the best available and it was a steal at $119.00. It now has gone up to $149.00. This is still about half what an Antec 850 costs and the Corsair had higher ratings than the Antec.

I get that your on a budget, but for your $1000 goal - these components will work and they will give you the best computer for your money - the best bang for your buck. The AMD X4 will soon be replaced by AMD and it costs between $125 - $189 depending on the version you get. The 2500K costs $40 - $100 more but it blows the doors off of the X4 in gaming (one of your main uses for your computer). The upgrade of the CPU puts in a current CPU that is cutting edge, not one that will soon be retired.

If you choose to overclock the 2500K, which is something you can easily do on the ASUS pro board, it will beat the $1000 Intel I-7 990 in many benchmarks and it only costs $225.00.

Anyway, I hope this helps you and I wish you the best with any computer you choose to build.
m
0
l
May 17, 2011 4:33:11 PM

How's this looking? Unsure about case and video card. Looking to shave off about $100 to $150 still. Any suggestions? Prolly should downgrade cpu, but the rage on this chip makes it difficult.

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer CaseReturn Policy: Standard Return Policy -$5.00 Instant
$59.99
$54.99

Seagate SV35 Series ST31000526SV 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -
Item #: N82E16822148727
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$5.00 Instant
$79.99
$74.99

XFX HD-685X-ZDFC Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814150515
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy $174.99

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible ...
Item #: N82E16817139005
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$30.00 Instant

$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card17-139-005 $119.99
$89.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231277
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy $49.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy $99.99

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103065
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $39.99
select item 8 quantity of item 8
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Item #: N82E16819115072
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options19-115-0721100|hide options19-115-0721100)
Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty

1 year: $22.99
2 year: $39.99

MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813130582
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options13-130-5821100|hide options13-130-5821100)

1 year: $14.99
2 year: $24.99
-$20.00 Combo
$364.98
$344.98
1 Patriot X-Porter 2GB Flash Drive (USB2.0 Portable) Model PSF2GUSB
Item #: N82E16820241103
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
m
0
l
May 17, 2011 11:10:15 PM

I'd say this 6850 is a better choice, runs cooler, voltage unlocked, and cheaper after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That or might as well just get a 5850 if it is better for the money.
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graph...

5850>6850
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/295?vs=291

Samsung F3 1TB, cheaper and it'll perform about the same, they're both mechanical HDDs so it wouldn't make much of a difference.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...

m
0
l
May 18, 2011 12:17:12 AM

The XFX 6950 1 GB Black will outperform the 6850 and the 5850 and it is $209 after rebates on newegg. The difference is $34.00 and the 6950 is much faster for gaming than the 6850. In almost every benchmark the 1 GB 6950 keeps up with the 2 GB 6950 which is a $275 - $300 card (without taking rebates into account). I realize we are tight on money and I agree that the 6850 is a very good card, but the XFX double lifetime warranty 6950 for $209 is a very good buy for a very powerful card.

I also think that the Corair TX 750 W or TX 850 W would be better for a "gamer" because it allows plenty of headroom for crossfire, overclocking, adding additional HDDs, etc. While a 650 W may be sufficient - it doesn't leave a lot of room to grow so-to-speak. Keep in mind that PSUs run most efficiently at 50% capacity and last longer. The 750 TX and 850 TX regularly go on sale for less than $100 if you watch for the sales and rebates and so the cost difference is $10- $30. I have to agree that the Antec 650 that was suggested is a great deal. Antec is a very good brand.
m
0
l
May 18, 2011 12:55:08 AM

aznshinobi said:
^ I think the 560 Ti is a valid argument if you're talking about MIRs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
210 AR and EVGA also has a solid warranty w/ the option for the "Step-up" program.


I agree with you that the 560 is a good card also. Tom's Hardware rated the 6950 performance higher in their reviews, but we have budget requirements here and for the money the 560 is very good.
m
0
l
May 18, 2011 12:56:30 AM

^ True, The 560 Ti I think has a better overclock though, since the 1GB version can't flash to the 6970.
m
0
l
May 18, 2011 4:39:02 PM

Great replies guys. I'm narrowing down some of the things up in the air. Will CF be possible on this board? One reply stated that a second card would block sata ports. Also, how much head room are we talking on the PSU for expansion down the road? Likely additions would be HDDs, SSD, TV Card, Ram, and maybe CF if I get into gaming a little more. As before, the total war series is about as serious as my gaming gets, maybe CIV 5. As for the HDD being changed, I just chose the one that was not OEM (out of box I guess). I like seagate b/c I've always used them, but I'll likely get the samsung if it's cheaper. Thanks for all the replies guys, gonna order in a few days. Considering getting a cheaper CPU, would I notice a huge difference by dropping down to the 2400 or lower? I like the 2500k due to reviews and easy overclock ability.
m
0
l
May 18, 2011 5:14:48 PM

I switched to the different HHD because the other was a bare drive. Not sure what that means, assuming it has something to do with an OEM product without cables and what not.
m
0
l
May 18, 2011 6:59:48 PM

A bare drive simply means that it doesnt ship with instruction/enclosure. Any cables that come with an HDD you won't need, as SATA cables come with your motherboard.
m
0
l
May 19, 2011 12:17:36 AM

^+1

From 2400 to 2500K you won't get a huge difference at stock. But if you plan to OC then yes there will be a pretty big difference with a hefty OC. As for CF concerns, it'll be possible with any board that has 2 PCI Express 16x 2.0 slots. Just not with SLI. SLI requires 2 8x/8x slots while CF can be used with 16x/4x.
m
0
l
!