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Upgrading my computer. Concise hardware vs hardware question

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August 9, 2011 8:51:06 PM

Hello.

I'm thinking of upgrading my computer. My budget is currently limited so I'm going with something cheap.

I am interested in two components; motherboard and graphic card.

I have an Intel pentium 4 CPU 3.00 GHz
Core speed 3017 MHz Multiplier x15 Bus speed 201.2 Mhz Rated FSB 804.7 mHZ (from CPU-Z)

I'd like to swap it with one of these 3 (if it has the same function? :D  ), and I'm asking if it's worth it for gaming:

MBO 775 ASROCK G41M-GS3 (M-ATX)

MBO 775 ASROCK G41M-VS3 R2.0 (M-ATX)
(G41M-VS3 R2.0: 775, Intel G41, ICH7, BUS 1333 MHz, DDR3, Broj utora 2, 1066 MHz, Intel GMA4500 do 1759MB, PCI 1, PCIe x16 1, PATA 1, SATA II 4, 6-kanalni audio, 1x 10/100 Ethernet, USB 2.0 4, µATX, Interni COM i LPT konektor)

MBO AM3 ASROCK N68-GS3 UCC (M-ATX)
(N68-GS3 UCC: AM3, NVIDIA GeForce 7025, nForce 630a, BUS 1000MHz, DDR3,Broj utora 2, 1600MHz, nVidia GF7025 do 256MB, PCI 2, PCIe x16 1, PCIe x1 1, PATA 1, SATA 4, RAID 0,0+1,1,5,JBOD, 6-kanalni audio, 1x 10/100/1000 Ethernet, Serial 1, µATX )

For example, the BUS speed (if that's that) is 5 times higher than on my current CPU.


Also, about the graphic card. I have a NVIDIA Geforce 6600, 128 MB.

Switch with one of these 2:

VGA PALIT GF210 SUPER SILENT/1GB (LP)
(GF210 SUPER SILENT/1GB (LP): NVIDIA GeForce, GF210, PCIe x16, 1024 MB, DDR3, 64-bit, Radni takt GPU 589 MHz, Takt memorije 1000 MHz, DVI-I, HDTV da, 1x D-sub, HDMI, 2560x1600)

VGA PALIT GF210 SUPER/1GB (LP)
(GF210 SUPER/1GB (LP): NVIDIA GeForce, GF210, PCIe x16, 1024 MB, DDR3, 64-bit, Radni takt GPU 589 MHz, Takt memorije 800 MHz, DVI-I, HDTV da, 1x D-sub, HDMI, 2560x1600)

Just looking at 128MB vs 1024 MB - it seems a big difference.




I'm able to play many newer games, but obviously with miserable FPS. Would this new system improve the FPS? Thanks in advance.





Anonymous
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August 9, 2011 9:17:33 PM

Forgot to add, in case it's relevant.

My PC has 1536 MB of DDR memory with a DRAM frequency of 161 MHz. FSB: DRAM 5:4. Windows XP.
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August 9, 2011 9:29:09 PM

No it will not improve FPS. The GF210 series is a pathetic card at best. The 6600 has a much more powerful GPU on it compared to the GF210s. Yes, they have more RAM but they aren't even powerful enough to use more than 256MB so the 1024MB is a complete waste. Both of those cards will be money spent on performance reduced. The biggest problem I see there is your CPU. The 6600 can game decently but it will need to offload some of the graphics work in many games to a CPU that can handle it. The Pentium-4 does not classify as a CPU that can handle it. If you want to have a decent gaming system, your absolute minimum requirements are an AMD Athlon II X3 and an ATi Radeon HD 4670. That combination will play most games out today at a reasonable level. These little crappy changes that you are considering are a complete waste of time and money. The proper upgrade doesn't have to be expensive though. Here's what it will cost you:

AMD Athlon II X3 3.1GHz: $75
Foxconn M61PMV Motherboard: $40
XFX Radeon HD 4670 1GB: $50
Prices are from newegg.com and include shipping to the continental USA, add whatever taxes may be applicable but you're only looking at $165 because Pentium-4 3GHz CPUs are socket 775 CPUs which means you can re-use your RAM. Unfortunately, you cannot put faster Intel CPUs in our motherboard because Pentium-4 Socket 775 motherboards do not support the Conroe architecture for Core 2 or Pentium Dual-Core. They only support Prescott (unless you have some special motherboard that I've never heard of). If you do these 3 upgrades, you will be unable to recognise your computer because of how fast it will seem. hope this helps you! :sol: 
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Anonymous
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August 9, 2011 9:46:41 PM

Yeah, it helped. I suspected the CPU is the bottleneck because it runs games ok until it comes to "too much" of something - particle effects, creatures etc.


AMD Athlon II X3 3.1GHz: $75

So.. could I just have my PC upgraded with this new CPU? Would it be possible considering my motherboard and all..
August 9, 2011 9:49:00 PM

"Avro Arrow" up here gave you good advice, or in my point of view, simple buy a Llano APU A8-3850 and a gigabyte motherboard GA-A75-D3H (rev. 1.0). With this type of system you will be able to play the newest games on medium to low game settings on all directx settings you set, without discrete gpu, and of course on a resolution lower than 1080p.
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