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May 15, 2011 3:12:58 AM

I want an all around excellent rig that can handle most any application I want to run. No OC for now ...maybe in future though. Not heavy into gaming, mainly just online and flash type with some older stuff like Black and White, Sims, etc. Want the ability to run CAD or other high resource need apps which is why this build will be an i7 2600. Want BlueRay in case main PS3 player goes out but that is an optional component. Have great speakers, ok keyboard and mouse. Probable future monitor upgrade, current Samsung SyncMaster 931B. Have a Creative X fi sound card from my beat to hell caa caa old computer I may want to put in this new build if you all think that's a go. I want longevity and good components with ability to upgrade. With Windows 7 and a couple little extras I will be around $1500-$1600

Could use advice on components chosen. Not sure if enough power or good enough brand. Not sure if the best MB choice. It took hours to decide on a case, any additional thoughts would be welcome. I also considered CM 690 II but didn't need the top SATA plugin and wanted great air cooling with ability to easy clean filters.

Lian Li PC-P50
Seasonic S12 energy plus 550
Asus P8P67, REV 3.0, LGA 1155
Intel i7 2600k quad core
Kingston, 8gig (2X4) hyper X T1
WD 1TB Caviar black, 6gb, 64 cache
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti900 mh , 1GB
Sony, AD7260S DVD=R/RW
Samsung combo BluRay drive
Sabrent 65 in 1 card reader/writer

Thanks,

Indigo

May 15, 2011 3:58:42 AM

first what site are these parts from how much was this whole build and the individual components? first thing i would change is the the hard drive get an samsung spinpoint f3 1tb from amazon for 60$
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May 15, 2011 4:38:50 AM

AVA Direct for the build unless you all know of a better place. I do not have any time. As my post said the components are at $1500-$1600 as is listed now. I actually had the samsung spinpoint as the drive and switched to the caviar because of always luck with WD in the past. I also considered 2 drives and rejected that until maybe when solid state gets cheaper.
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May 15, 2011 6:20:46 AM

i almost got the same build as you, still in the process of deciding on some things, i would recommend the new gigbyte Z68 Boards, bit better then the asus p67s


my current build


Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K $309.99

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024MB GDDR5 (01G-P3-1561-AR) nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Chipset 1GB DDR5 Dual Display DVI-I/Mini-HDMI PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card

Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX) 1000GB (1TB) SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache

PSU Corsair HX Series CMPSU-650HX 650W ATX EPS12V Power Supply

SAMSUNG Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-/+R 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model SH-B123L/RSBP LightScribe Support (Retail)
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May 15, 2011 8:55:37 AM

1. Your card reader is USB 2.0; you may want to look for a USB 3.0 compatible reader

2. Your PSU gives you very little room to upgrade your system. I would suggest the Corsair 850 HX, it is on sale right now at newegg for $119.00 and it is a top rates PSU. Google it for the reviews. This PSU would give you more than enough power to upgrade your system or overclock if you chose to do so.

3. The new blu ray buring drives can go up to 12 x and cost about $100.00

4. The XFX ATI 6950 is $209.00 after rebates and it will handily beat the GTX 560. For CAD you may want to choose the 6950. The XFX version comes with a double lifetime warranty - it is here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. The ASUS P67 or Z68 PRO boards cost about $25.00 more and they are very highly rated. Gigabyte boards - especially the Z68 boards have had some problems. Check here for a comparison review: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Gigabyte-Z68X-UD...

The Z68 Asus pro review is here: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

The ASUS Pro Z68 was much better reviewed than the Gigabyte. If you are going to game and expect to run three graphics cards then neither of the boards will work for you. For two graphics cards in crossfire or SLI, either will work.

6. You may want to check if the lian li case you have chosen supports USB 3.0. It is a well reviewed case - great choice. Bit tech has a review on it.

7. Make sure your RAM is either 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 or 1866 (CL9 will work but CL8 is better) because this sweet spot for cost/performance. I got Gskill DDR 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 CL9 RAM for $75.00 from NewEgg.
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May 15, 2011 3:46:03 PM

for the motherboard i would go with the asrock p67 extreme4 for 160$ on newegg. i dont think you will benefit from z68's if you dont have an ssd or game much. i have this motherboard and it is great. i think you cant go wrong with either a 6950 or 560 ti since you are not into gaming that much
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May 15, 2011 4:35:29 PM


Thanks Fong, this is exactly the type info I needed.

1.The Sabrent card reader is internal

2.If BlueRay is around $100 I want it

3.I knew if I posted here I would get grief on the vid card choice. I had chosen the GTX 580 at first but the cost made me ill. I did try to do some due diligence and the 560 Ti seemed to have better scores than the ATI 6950. Where else can you point me for reviews other than new egg? I did read a ton of benchmarks and other geek reviews that scored the 560 higher but I can be swayed and really have no loyalty to either brand. I am not a hard core gamer so do not care what Crysis runs best in. I do care if CAD and Adobe runs well. I do care if the BluRay movies won't run smooth.

4.I suspected I needed at least 800 on the PSU and others said 650 is more than enough.

5.The Asus MB was a no brainer.

6. The Lian Li case has 2.0 on the IO board. Am I screwed here? I spent hours trying to find a case I could live with that wouldn't cost $350. Please help. I want clean lines, aluminum is a plus, the more external USB ports the better.

7.The Kingston RAM I had chosen is 2 X 4GB DDR 1600, CL9 non ECC so should be good

Finally, what's the verdict on putting the Creative card in this new build? I don't really need to depending on what the on board is like but the Xfi had some nice features I may want to use again. I plan on taking the old system I am currently running the Creative in and setting it up to burn all my old vinyl once I get a new computer. Once that's done, I can cannibalize the old rig..

Thanks,
indigo
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May 16, 2011 8:15:33 AM

indigo1 said:
Thanks Fong, this is exactly the type info I needed.

1.The Sabrent card reader is internal

2.If BlueRay is around $100 I want it

3.I knew if I posted here I would get grief on the vid card choice. I had chosen the GTX 580 at first but the cost made me ill. I did try to do some due diligence and the 560 Ti seemed to have better scores than the ATI 6950. Where else can you point me for reviews other than new egg? I did read a ton of benchmarks and other geek reviews that scored the 560 higher but I can be swayed and really have no loyalty to either brand. I am not a hard core gamer so do not care what Crysis runs best in. I do care if CAD and Adobe runs well. I do care if the BluRay movies won't run smooth.

4.I suspected I needed at least 800 on the PSU and others said 650 is more than enough.

5.The Asus MB was a no brainer.

6. The Lian Li case has 2.0 on the IO board. Am I screwed here? I spent hours trying to find a case I could live with that wouldn't cost $350. Please help. I want clean lines, aluminum is a plus, the more external USB ports the better.

7.The Kingston RAM I had chosen is 2 X 4GB DDR 1600, CL9 non ECC so should be good

Finally, what's the verdict on putting the Creative card in this new build? I don't really need to depending on what the on board is like but the Xfi had some nice features I may want to use again. I plan on taking the old system I am currently running the Creative in and setting it up to burn all my old vinyl once I get a new computer. Once that's done, I can cannibalize the old rig..

Thanks,
indigo


I really like the lian li case you chose. Bit Tech gave it a great review. I would stay with it. I am pretty sure that Lian Li offers a front USB 3.0 panel that you can add to the case for an additional cost - but check on this.

For the 6950 vs the 560 comparison I would read Tom's Hardware review here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card-...

Tom's says that the 6950 outperforms the 560 in most situations. Keep in mind that sometimes reviewers disagree. However, most reviews I have read of the 6950 have raved about it and I have read multiple reviews.

For blu-ray playback, hands down ATI delivers a better picture. I read a bunch of video website reviews - they all say that ATI delivers better overall video performance. I think that Tom's Hardware review on this subject also came to that conclusion but that is off the top of my head.

I had the ATI 5850 and its HD picture was the best I have ever seen. It nearly matched Samsung's HDTV picture which is saying a lot because computer monitors are notorious for poorer quality HDTV when compared with dedicated TVs. Keep in mind that if your monitor is not high quality the difference will be hidden by the monitor's defects. I think that is why so many people in this forum think that low-end video cards are sufficient for HD playback - it because they have a cheaper TN monitor that cannot offer accurate colors and shading (grays and blacks). BTW I am not putting anyone down, I had a cheap TN monitor for 5 years before I upgraded. So you need a good GPU and a high quality monitor for great HD playback.

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May 22, 2011 3:46:58 PM

This is what I have decided to build due to availability of parts, ease of upgrade, ability to use Adobe and CAD

CORSAIR, Obsidian 650D Black Mid-Tower Computer Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Aluminum/Steel
CORSAIR, CMPSU-850HX HX Series Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 850W, 80 PLUS®, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, 6x 8-pin PCIe
ASUS, P8Z68-V PRO, LGA1155, Intel® Z68, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /2, SATA 3Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6Gb/s /4, VGA+DVI+HDMI, USB 3.0 /4, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
INTEL, Core™ i7-2600K Quad-Core 3.4GHz, HD Graphics 3000, LGA1155, 8MB L3 Cache, 32nm, 95W, EM64T EIST HT TB VT-x XD, Retail
COOLER MASTER, Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler, Socket 1155/1156/1366/775/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum, Retail
KINGSTON, 8GB (2 x 4GB) HyperX T1 PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.65V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA, GeForce® GTX 560 Ti FPB (AR) 850MHz, 1GB GDDR5 4104MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, mini-HDMI, Retail
WESTERN DIGITAL, 1TB WD Caviar® Black™ (WD1002FAEX), SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache

SONY, AD-7261S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA, OEM
SONY, BD-5300S Black 12x/16x/48x BD/DVD/CD Blu-ray Disc™ Burner, SATA, Retail
NIPPON LABS, ICR-BB Black Internal All-in-1 Card Reader w/ eSATA Port, 3.5" Bay, USB/SATA
HIRO, H50006 Internal Data/Fax/Voice Modem, V.92, 56K, PCI
MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition, OEM
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May 23, 2011 1:22:46 AM

One quick note Indigo, a 650 W PSU will run your system and so if costs becomes an issue then you can use one. You don't need an 800 W to run the components you list. I like the 750 HX, the 850 HX and the Seasonic 650 Gold and Seasonic 750 and Seasonic 850 PSUs. These are among the best. Antec and XFX also put out some quality PSUs. You may just want to shop among these brands and find which one is on sale.

For best buys, the Corsair and 750 HX and 850 HX frequently go on sale and you can get great buys on them. Right now at Amazon the 750 HX is $125.00 after rebates (the 850 HX is $149 after rebates at Amazon).

I like to spec my PSUs as twice the capcity that I need, but that is not what everyone thinks. Many computer experts recommend 200 W extra capacity. For your system your worse case scenario for wattage would probably be between 300 - 400 W depending on how many components you add and are using at the same time. That means that a 650 W would work. I bought the 850 HX for my system and it is very similar to yours in power usage. My reasoning was that I wanted the PSU to always be running at 30% - 50% capacity where it is most efficient (it uses less power and is cooler and quieter at 30% - 50% capacity). That was my decision, you may elect to go with the 650 W for your system. you have to decide what best meets your needs.

You mention that if your PS3 goes out that you may use the computer for gaming. The 850 HX would allow you to crossfire or SLI two graphics cards for your computer. Note you could not SLI two GTX 580s because they use a massive amount of power. But you could could SLI two 560s if you needed to.
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May 23, 2011 10:57:33 AM

Thank you for all your help. I took all that you had said before into consideration and rolled with it. The 850 HX wasn't that much more than a 650 so I liked the piece of mind and just bit the bullet and got it. If I want to SLI the 560 I can and I also liked the idea of using no more than 50% of capacity. About the 560 Ti choice, it runs CAD and Adobe a bit better than ATI so....(I almost changed my mind though!). I will miss not having the Lian Li but didn't want to wait the extra 6 weeks or more to get it. I am pleased that the new Z boards came out before this build so I could put one in too. I hate LiteOn products and every one I have ever used took a dump before the 1yr mark so the double Sony choice for optical drives was about the easiest choice I made for the whole build.

Of note: As mentioned AVA Direct is doing this build due to my time constraints and need for speed (old unit's death is very soon now). They are fairly close to where I live so I saved on shipping. So far I am ok with the experience but a word to the wise, if you discuss anything and make changes at all, check the new remit carefully for unintended substitutions made. They tried to put me in a 650 PSU too. It was probably an honest error and no harm intended but the memory sticks had been changed as well. I changed both items back to my original specifications.
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May 23, 2011 10:58:25 AM

What have you decided on a build?
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May 24, 2011 6:14:20 AM

indigo1 said:
This is what I have decided to build due to availability of parts, ease of upgrade, ability to use Adobe and CAD

CORSAIR, Obsidian 650D Black Mid-Tower Computer Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Aluminum/Steel
CORSAIR, CMPSU-850HX HX Series Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 850W, 80 PLUS®, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, 6x 8-pin PCIe
ASUS, P8Z68-V PRO, LGA1155, Intel® Z68, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /2, SATA 3Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6Gb/s /4, VGA+DVI+HDMI, USB 3.0 /4, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
INTEL, Core™ i7-2600K Quad-Core 3.4GHz, HD Graphics 3000, LGA1155, 8MB L3 Cache, 32nm, 95W, EM64T EIST HT TB VT-x XD, Retail
COOLER MASTER, Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler, Socket 1155/1156/1366/775/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum, Retail
KINGSTON, 8GB (2 x 4GB) HyperX T1 PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.65V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA, GeForce® GTX 560 Ti FPB (AR) 850MHz, 1GB GDDR5 4104MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, mini-HDMI, Retail
WESTERN DIGITAL, 1TB WD Caviar® Black™ (WD1002FAEX), SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache

SONY, AD-7261S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA, OEM
SONY, BD-5300S Black 12x/16x/48x BD/DVD/CD Blu-ray Disc™ Burner, SATA, Retail
NIPPON LABS, ICR-BB Black Internal All-in-1 Card Reader w/ eSATA Port, 3.5" Bay, USB/SATA
HIRO, H50006 Internal Data/Fax/Voice Modem, V.92, 56K, PCI
MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition, OEM



I have to say that I love the system you chose - it is first rate. I am drooling over the Corsair 650D ha, ha , be sure to post about it. I wish you the best :-)
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