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May 15, 2011 12:07:11 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm new here and this would be my very first build.

I did some homework on what's out there, but I might have been wildly overenthusiastic in my scavenger hunt for parts (insert sheepish grin :p )

I'm hoping with your help I could probably get the performance I need with less if that's possible! So please let me know what my options are and where I can cut corners without compromising on performance. :) 


* Tentative Purchase Date: late May

* Budget Range: $1200-$1500

* Usage: Gaming (Crysis 2, Metro 2033 basically all the new titles) Movies, Music etc.

* Overclocking: Maybe (I assume this would be a bad idea if intend to run this machine almost 24x7? then probably not!)


The Parts
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* Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k / Intel Core i7 2600k (If there's no major advantage in a Core i7 I would go for a 2500k or a 2400)

* MoBo: ROG Asus Maximus IV Extreme P67 B3 (Rev 3.0)
Link: http://rog.asus.com/Product.aspx?Pid=43#product_tab

* EVGA 460 GTX / EVGA 480 GTX (I would go for the 460 GTX if the 480 GTX would be overkill. Would it be better
to use 2 460 GTX in SLI than a single 480 GTX?)
Link 1 460 GTX: http://www.evga.com/articles/00561/
Link 2 480 GTX: http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=015-P3-148...

* Corsair Vengeance 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 Memory kit / G.Skill 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 Memory
(whichever would give me an edge. but I love the design of the Vengeance Kit!)
Link: http://www.corsair.com/memory/vengeance/vengeance-6gb-t...

* ITB HDD Samsung SATA or WD Caviar Black (why is the WD $20 over the price of Samsung?!)

* Display: Samsung 19" - BX 19

* PSU : In-Win "Commander" 750W
Link: http://www.guru3d.com/article/in-win-commander-750w-psu...

* Chassis: In-win B2 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower.
Link: http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u22694/stealthbomber_cas...

(Note: I would go for a different PSU or chassis if you have any suggestions!)

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I hope you guys can help me make the best choice. Thanks ALOT!
May 15, 2011 12:57:32 PM

First of all I think the motherboard you have chosen is a bit overkill. Just go with a p8p67, it will fit your needs just fine.

The i5 2500k will offer the same performance as a 2600k in gaming so an i7 is unnecessary if you just want to game.

For your ram the pack you have chosen is triple channel and P67 mobos only support dual channel ram. Again, 4gb is more than enough for gaming. Go with a g-skill ripjaws 1600MHz set, it'll do you just fine.

For you graphics card go with the Radeon hd 6950 2gb, it offers great performance and you can unlock it to an HD 6970.

Buy the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb hdd and get yourself a 64gb ssd like a crucial c300 with the money you saved on the video card.

For the case go with a Coolermaster HAF 922. And go witha 750w xfx black edition psu.

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May 15, 2011 1:10:00 PM

im doing a similar build and im choosing the HAF 932 as its discounted due to its succsessor the HAF-X but you get the large space good for cooling and upgrades in the future, also i like ho wthe 932 has a black edition which i have not seen for the 922. and i agree with robbiep28, go for a 6950,
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May 15, 2011 1:11:31 PM

what sort of CPu cooler are you planning on getting? i didnt see any above (if im mistaken) , go with the usual Hypere 212+ , they are great for the price, im personally getting the Noctua C14 as i like the dual fan setup and its silent cooling. :) 
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May 15, 2011 3:22:33 PM

-are you from the USA, what state?
-go hyper 212 plus 29.51 at amaazon
-asrock p67 extreme4 motherboard will work for you 160$ at newegg and pair it with the i5 2500k and a 24/7 oc is safe and really easy i have my 2500k set to 4.2 ghz by just turning up the cpu multiplier to 42 and it runs pretty much at stock temps.
-whats the resolution on the monitor can you post a link to it?
-get a samsung f3 1tb hard drive at amazon for 60$
-also get an ssd there is a 60gb vertex 2 at amazon for 105$
-why are you thinking about getting 400 series cards the 500 nvidia cards have been out for a while (560 ti-good as 470, 570-good as 480 and runs cooler too) i do think that gtx 460 sli is still a good idea is will be better than a 6970 or gtx 580
-i would go with a big name psu maker like corsair, xfx, seasonic,....- great 750w psu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 95$ with rebate
-also p67 motherboards dont support tri channeled ram go with this- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 70$ with rebate
-also how much is that case you should go with this one 90$- http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004WK3KKQ/ref=d... & the info link http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Enforcer-Interior-S...


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May 15, 2011 3:49:57 PM

Hi robbiep28 , wow the ASUS P8P67 is actually $235 less than the Maximus IV! :o 

that's great to know that Core i5 gives out almost the same output. I would go with anything that would give me a more than average performance :) 

major facepalm on the triple channel memory kit! (insert sheepish grin :p ) I like the look of the ripjaws :p 

Is this the GPU you suggested?
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it looks great and it's 2GB! :o 

roger that on the spin point, but sorry to sound so dense, but I have no clue as to what's a 64gb ssd or crucial c300 or what it even does... :p 

Coolermaster HAF 922: That is one goddamn awesome looking chassis!

And I would love to go for the 750w xfx black edition psu. (I just hope I can get them where I live, or else I'd have to order them online. :( )

Thanks for the tips! :) 


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May 15, 2011 4:04:36 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
-are you from the USA, what state?
-go hyper 212 plus 29.51 at amaazon
-asrock p67 extreme4 motherboard will work for you 160$ at newegg and pair it with the i5 2500k and a 24/7 oc is safe and really easy i have my 2500k set to 4.2 ghz by just turning up the cpu multiplier to 42 and it runs pretty much at stock temps.
-whats the resolution on the monitor can you post a link to it?
-get a samsung f3 1tb hard drive at amazon for 60$
-also get an ssd there is a 60gb vertex 2 at amazon for 105$
-why are you thinking about getting 400 series cards the 500 nvidia cards have been out for a while (560 ti-good as 470, 570-good as 480 and runs cooler too) i do think that gtx 460 sli is still a good idea is will be better than a 6970 or gtx 580
-i would go with a big name psu maker like corsair, xfx, seasonic,....- great 750w psu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 95$ with rebate
-also p67 motherboards dont support tri channeled ram go with this- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 70$ with rebate
-also how much is that case you should go with this one 90$- http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004WK3KKQ/ref=d... & the info link http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Enforcer-Interior-S...


No bro I'm not from the USA, I'm from Sri Lanka and the options we have here are pretty limited. I have to special order pretty much anything I need from overseas coz they are either not stocked or overpriced :( 

Here's the link for the Monitor http://www.computeragelk.com/product_info.php?products_...

I would love to go for a 580 card but over here they would cost double the price it is over there. So SLI would be my only option for now.

The In-Win Stealth Bomber would come to around $220. (I saw it was out of stock at New Egg) I would also prefer to go for Corsair or xfx for my PSU. I will have to try to order them separately.

Those Ram look pretty sharp!
Thanks!





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May 15, 2011 4:12:14 PM

Hmmm so I have to Mobo options now... Asrock p67 extreme4 or asus p8p67 pro?
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May 15, 2011 4:22:20 PM

LOL123 thanks for reminding me! I had totally forgotten about a cooler Major #fail!
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May 15, 2011 4:37:26 PM

deanwinchester said:
Hi robbiep28 , wow the ASUS P8P67 is actually $235 less than the Maximus IV! :o 

that's great to know that Core i5 gives out almost the same output. I would go with anything that would give me a more than average performance :) 

major facepalm on the triple channel memory kit! (insert sheepish grin :p ) I like the look of the ripjaws :p 

Is this the GPU you suggested?
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it looks great and it's 2GB! :o 

roger that on the spin point, but sorry to sound so dense, but I have no clue as to what's a 64gb ssd or crucial c300 or what it even does... :p 

Coolermaster HAF 922: That is one goddamn awesome looking chassis!

And I would love to go for the 750w xfx black edition psu. (I just hope I can get them where I live, or else I'd have to order them online. :( )

Thanks for the tips! :) 

Yep thats the graphics card I was talking about. Since you're from sri lanka you might be able to get your parts from a good aussy website called http://pccasegear.com/

As for youre motherboard, I'd recommend asus p8p67 pro simply because of their longer warranty and there superb customer support.

Ok, an solid state drive (ssd) is like a super fast version of a hard drive and on a 64 gb model you'll be able to store your os, some programs and a game or two. if you like you can step up to a 128 gb ssd and you can store ALL your games and programs on that. The crucial real ssd c300 is a brand of ssd that in my opinion is the best value on the market at them moment.

If you can't get a xfx 750w psu you can also go with the corsair hx 750 and the antec truepower new 750w both are fabulous, reliable psus. They are also modular which means you only have to connect the cables that you need. this is a great video explaining the concept of a modular psu. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_2RG61hhk
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May 15, 2011 5:05:35 PM

robbiep28 said:
Yep thats the graphics card I was talking about. Since you're from sri lanka you might be able to get your parts from a good aussy website called http://pccasegear.com/

As for youre motherboard, I'd recommend asus p8p67 pro simply because of their longer warranty and there superb customer support.

Ok, an solid state drive (ssd) is like a super fast version of a hard drive and on a 64 gb model you'll be able to store your os, some programs and a game or two. if you like you can step up to a 128 gb ssd and you can store ALL your games and programs on that. The crucial real ssd c300 is a brand of ssd that in my opinion is the best value on the market at them moment.

If you can't get a xfx 750w psu you can also go with the corsair hx 750 and the antec truepower new 750w both are fabulous, reliable psus. They are also modular which means you only have to connect the cables that you need. this is a great video explaining the concept of a modular psu. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_2RG61hhk


Hi Again!

Thank you for taking so much time and trouble to help me out here. :)  Yes, since I'm from Sri Lanka I could try ordering from the site you recommended :)  I also have the option of asking my brother who studies and lives in China to send me some of the components. :) 

I agree 1000% Asus are really well known for their warranties here in SL as well :) 

Wow I would definitely like to have an SSD drive, maybe a 64GB with my current budget (I googled it just now and it sound really great to have one!)

I would definitely try for the xfx thru my bro and if not go for the Corsair or antec :)  I was forced to take the "commander" PSU coz the seller said it was bundled with the Case and was the best PSU they had in stock. :fou: 

that's the problem we face down here. they have the cheapest stuff out here coz most people go for price while guys like me are paying premium for quality gear.
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May 15, 2011 5:12:20 PM

There's one thing I just dont get about Intel. Why are the 2nd gen Core i5's giving a better out put OC'd or not than the 2nd gen Core i7's and still cost less?

A complete newbie like me would have gone for the i7, paid more just becoz it SEEMS significantly more powerful.

And one more thing, what's the deal about Dual channel memory not supported by P67? is that a good or bad thing? Confused! :S
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May 15, 2011 5:23:09 PM

Dual channel memory IS supported on p67 mobos. Sorry for confusing you :p 

The thing about 2nd gen i7 cpus is that they only outperform i5 2nd gen in tasks such as video rendering and editing, photoshop and graphics encoding. They perform the same at gaming and other basic tasks.

As for overclocking there is a ton of guides on how to overclock the i5 2500k to 4.5GHz and the coolermaster hyper 212 plus will be perfect for this overclock 24/7.
here is a good step by step guide on how to overclock it on the p8p67 deluxe but the p8p67 pro has the same settings.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/07/how-to...

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May 15, 2011 5:30:11 PM

The new i5s have a fresh architecture, which makes them perform as well as the old i7s. You should definitely overclock; even with a crazy budget like this (top-of-the-line parts) everything will still be obsolete before it wears out.
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May 15, 2011 5:31:21 PM

Tom's declared 8gb actually worth it in a recent article
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May 15, 2011 10:04:09 PM

oh you will have to upgrade that monitor. and stay with a 570, 6970, 6850 sli, gtx 460 sli for that budget. and the asrock motherboard is cheaper and still has all the key features the asus has
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May 16, 2011 8:19:25 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
oh you will have to upgrade that monitor. and stay with a 570, 6970, 6850 sli, gtx 460 sli for that budget. and the asrock motherboard is cheaper and still has all the key features the asus has


U missed the HD6950 2GB.

@op

I say wait for what Bulldozer brings to the market. Its almost June anyway.
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May 16, 2011 2:44:18 PM

why go 6950 2gb when his budget can handle a 6970? i do agree wait for bulldozer even though i think intel will stil be on top
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May 16, 2011 4:48:13 PM

6950 2GB is as capable as a 6970 if flashed / overclocked. the 6970 is not worth the price premium atleast imo.
Yup, we MIGHT see some price cuts on the intel side atleast when BD is out.
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May 18, 2011 3:33:10 AM

robbiep28 said:
Dual channel memory IS supported on p67 mobos. Sorry for confusing you :p 

The thing about 2nd gen i7 cpus is that they only outperform i5 2nd gen in tasks such as video rendering and editing, photoshop and graphics encoding. They perform the same at gaming and other basic tasks.

As for overclocking there is a ton of guides on how to overclock the i5 2500k to 4.5GHz and the coolermaster hyper 212 plus will be perfect for this overclock 24/7.
here is a good step by step guide on how to overclock it on the p8p67 deluxe but the p8p67 pro has the same settings.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/07/how-to...



Hi Robbie,

I just re-read my question and I meant to ask why the p67 boards don't support T ripple channel memory, and no you did not confuse me at all, when in reality, you've really been so helpful :) 

Thank you for explaining to me the difference between Core i5 and Core i7

After reading yours and the others advice, I would definitely OC this machine (though I have never done it before in my life!) I just hope I can get my hands on the coolermaster hyper 212+ to do it! I don't wanna trust any brand not recommended by you guys :) 

Thanks Robbie!
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May 18, 2011 3:38:25 AM

kajabla said:
The new i5s have a fresh architecture, which makes them perform as well as the old i7s. You should definitely overclock; even with a crazy budget like this (top-of-the-line parts) everything will still be obsolete before it wears out.


I know, It's more than a little unnerving to know that even this config would be pretty much obsolete before I leave the store with it. Future proofing nowadays is a joke I guess... The best I'm hoping for is to not be too far behind!

I am really interested in Overclocking this system when I'm done assembling it. But I've never done it before. Is there a safe idiot-proof way of doing it?

Thanks!
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May 18, 2011 3:55:55 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
oh you will have to upgrade that monitor. and stay with a 570, 6970, 6850 sli, gtx 460 sli for that budget. and the asrock motherboard is cheaper and still has all the key features the asus has


Hi there,

Thanks. Can you suggest a monitor? Is there something wrong with Samsung? Most people I've met recommended Sammy (no pun intended! as a great brand for Monitors.

I am trying to get my hands on a 570 GTX if not go for 460 GTX in SLI. It's not exactly helping when the vendors here try to rob you blind by charging premium! :fou: 


@gametstr and mjmjpfaff : I asked about a SAPPHIRE 100312-2SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB and the #$!@&* vendor quoted a ridiculous $707 for it which is waaay beyond my budget, when it really costs around $260 at Newegg :( 

Freaking pirates!


Bulldozer? That's AMD's new chip-set right? Would it be better than what Intel's offering right now?

Yeah I hope the'd be some price cuts.
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May 18, 2011 7:29:39 AM

deanwinchester said:
Hi Robbie,

I just re-read my question and I meant to ask why the p67 boards don't support T ripple channel memory, and no you did not confuse me at all, when in reality, you've really been so helpful :) 

Thank you for explaining to me the difference between Core i5 and Core i7

After reading yours and the others advice, I would definitely OC this machine (though I have never done it before in my life!) I just hope I can get my hands on the coolermaster hyper 212+ to do it! I don't wanna trust any brand not recommended by you guys :) 

Thanks Robbie!

Virually the only difference between the i5 and the i7 is that they have the same amount of cores (4) but the i7 has hyperthreading. It's kinda like making another four 'virtual' cores. However hyperthreading in this current gen will only make a difference in things such as editing and photoshop, not gaming or other simple tasks.
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May 18, 2011 4:40:09 PM

Bulldozer is not a chipset. Its a CPU architecture thats going to be released very soon by AMD.
AMD currently has no competition for Intel's sandybridge. Bulldozer is supposed to void that.
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May 20, 2011 6:14:32 AM

Hey guys,

Ok so after mulling over the weekend and what you guys told me, I made the following revised list of components.

The Parts List V.1.02
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* Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k

* MoBo: ASUS P8P67 PRO B3 (Rev 3.0)
Link: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/I [...] ifications

* EVGA 460 GTX SLI
Link 1 460 GTX: http://www.evga.com/articles/00561/

* Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Memory kit
Link: http://www.corsair.com/memory/veng [...] 00c10.html

* Samsung Spin-point F3 1TB HDD

* Display: ASUS - VH238H - 23" LED

* PSU : 750w xfx Black Edition
Link: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.p [...] y&reid=184

* Heatsink: Coolermaster Hyper 212+
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065

* 64GB SSD - Crucial C300 (thanks Robbie!)

* Chassis: ?

(I tried for the HAF 922 But it's not available where I live So i'm still on the look out for a chassis. but for now, I'm sticking to the B2 as a default option)
Link: http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u22 [...] r_case.jpg

Alternative: In-Win Dragon Slayer.
Link1: http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] yer/2.html
Link2: http://www.aone.zen.co.uk/imagespr [...] agslay.jpg

Please let me know if you see any possible bottlenecks in performance :)  I will be placing the final order at the end of the month and would be getting the parts down by the 5th :)  Thank you so much guys for the support. I'm grateful for all the advice and help you guys have given me.

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May 21, 2011 4:19:32 PM

that looks good a formidable force for any game
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May 21, 2011 6:54:21 PM

How about a thermaltake v5 for a chassis?
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May 23, 2011 3:50:26 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
that looks good a formidable force for any game


Thanks! :)  I'm really glad you guys were here to help me out. So I locked on the components and placed the order (insert sigh of relief!) :) 
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May 23, 2011 3:58:09 PM

*drools over the ThermalTake V5!* I will try my best to get this one (Its not available here, but I am going to try to get one through my bro ;) )

In the meantime, I saw this case today, It's a monster of a chassis, but it seems to have plenty of space and the price seemed reasonable ($123 compared to the B2 which is $212) and the build quality seems quite decent. I actually got them to power up the side fan and seemed to work really well (it lit up with a blue LED light which looked quite cool as well!).

What do you guys think? Safe bet or should I try for the ThermalTake?

CCIVO 19 Series 1901
http://www.neopctech.net/m_mall_detail.php?ps_ctid=1700...
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May 23, 2011 4:21:48 PM

Do u have Antec cases available where u r?
the 300, 902, 1200 are all really good cases.
Especially the 300. Best value for many.
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