GTX 580 not performing like it should
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So last night i ran 3Dmark11 and i got a score of 3790 http://3dmark.com/3dm11/786643 but it was very painful to watch some of the test specially on the Physics Test is was extremely laggy, im a bit confuse i seen other people with a single GTX 580 getting score of over 6, also when the gtx is under load it makes a lot of noise not the fan idk how to explain it. Comments?!?!
Im runing Q9650 OC to 3.3 with corsair water cooled
windows 7 64bit
you can see all the specs on the link http://3dmark.com/3dm11/786643
Im runing Q9650 OC to 3.3 with corsair water cooled
windows 7 64bit
you can see all the specs on the link http://3dmark.com/3dm11/786643
More about : gtx 580 performing
Is it a whining noise? Could be the infamous transistor whine. Only fix for that is to RMA the thing. Not sure if the noise is directly related to the poor performance. It's definitely a possibility.
Do you have the most recent drivers from Nvidia's website installed?
Is your PSU capable of powering this card properly?
I imagine your GPU Core and Memory frequencies are so low because the card is at Idle during this snapshot? Do these clock speeds increase correctly under load?
Do you have the most recent drivers from Nvidia's website installed?
Is your PSU capable of powering this card properly?
I imagine your GPU Core and Memory frequencies are so low because the card is at Idle during this snapshot? Do these clock speeds increase correctly under load?
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#1: The Physics Test is supposed to be laggy. Don't sweat that. It always is with 3DMark.
#2: Try reducing your CPU speed and see if that impacts your score. If it does, then your CPU is bottlenecking. You should be able to OC a Q9650 by around 600MHz on stock voltage. With water cooling, even Corsair H50, you shouldn't have an issue getting near or past 4.0GHz.
#3: You should be looking at the Graphics Score because the Physics score varies too much between systems and there are too many variables (although mostly CPU).
What is your RAM setup? I assume 4x1GB sticks? If it's 6GB, remove your two 1GB sticks and just run two 2GB in slots of the same color. Check your RAM timings in your bios and make sure they're not set strangely slow. You've now eliminated your RAM as a possible bottleneck.
Did adjusting CPU speed affect your Graphics score?
EDIT: I ignored the thing about your graphics card noise. Is it really strangely loud or whining or does it just sound like it's moving more air than you're used to? You can install MSI Afterburner and setup a linear fan profile (30% @ 30C, 100% @ 90C). Careful about playing around with Afterburner's other settings. Btw, it works with all NVidia cards.
#2: Try reducing your CPU speed and see if that impacts your score. If it does, then your CPU is bottlenecking. You should be able to OC a Q9650 by around 600MHz on stock voltage. With water cooling, even Corsair H50, you shouldn't have an issue getting near or past 4.0GHz.
#3: You should be looking at the Graphics Score because the Physics score varies too much between systems and there are too many variables (although mostly CPU).
What is your RAM setup? I assume 4x1GB sticks? If it's 6GB, remove your two 1GB sticks and just run two 2GB in slots of the same color. Check your RAM timings in your bios and make sure they're not set strangely slow. You've now eliminated your RAM as a possible bottleneck.
Did adjusting CPU speed affect your Graphics score?
EDIT: I ignored the thing about your graphics card noise. Is it really strangely loud or whining or does it just sound like it's moving more air than you're used to? You can install MSI Afterburner and setup a linear fan profile (30% @ 30C, 100% @ 90C). Careful about playing around with Afterburner's other settings. Btw, it works with all NVidia cards.
dalauder said:
#1: The Physics Test is supposed to be laggy. Don't sweat that. It always is with 3DMark.#2: Try reducing your CPU speed and see if that impacts your score. If it does, then your CPU is bottlenecking. You should be able to OC a Q9650 by around 600MHz on stock voltage. With water cooling, even Corsair H50, you shouldn't have an issue getting near or past 4.0GHz.
#3: You should be looking at the Graphics Score because the Physics score varies too much between systems and there are too many variables (although mostly CPU).
What is your RAM setup? I assume 4x1GB sticks? If it's 6GB, remove your two 1GB sticks and just run two 2GB in slots of the same color. Check your RAM timings in your bios and make sure they're not set strangely slow. You've now eliminated your RAM as a possible bottleneck.
#1: I do have a GT240 as dedicated physx card...
#2:hmm ill try that, i do have the H50 on it
#3: 4783 is the graphics score
#4: and this is the ram im running
Module 1
2048 MB G.Skill 7 @ 400 MHz
Module 2
1024 MB G.Skill 7 @ 400 MHz
Module 3
2048 MB G.Skill 7 @ 400 MHz
Module 4
1024 MB G.Skill 7 @ 400 MHz
#1: I still think the Physics is supposed to look terrible. Also, a GT240 is an underpowered physX card that often decreases single high-end graphics cards running PhysX themselves. You want a minimum GTS 250/9800GT. Try removing the GT240.
#2: Try CPU at stock or even at 2.8GHz and at 3.4GHz
#3: Yeah...the GTX 580 should be pulling around 6000 points.
#4: 4GB RAM in two slots in dual channel mode is faster than 6GB RAM in four slots in mixed mode. Run Memtest86+ from a flashstick and look at RAM data speed to verify.
#2: Try CPU at stock or even at 2.8GHz and at 3.4GHz
#3: Yeah...the GTX 580 should be pulling around 6000 points.
#4: 4GB RAM in two slots in dual channel mode is faster than 6GB RAM in four slots in mixed mode. Run Memtest86+ from a flashstick and look at RAM data speed to verify.
If you run that 580 all by it'self, you should find yourself with a much better score. In tests where's it's testing physics only, the 580 will rape that 240.
In my experiences with re-using older cards as a dedicated physics card..... Anything less than a 260/216 or 280 will just not hang with todays benches or games.
In most cases, more ram is always better. But in your case with different ram sizes, remove the 1gigs sticks and re-run the tests.
I know that your Q9650 is bottlenecking your 580. Because my last rig was a Q9550 with x2 260 core216 SC's in sli with 8 gigs of ram, and my cpu was bottlenecking those cards until I OCed it to 3.4ghz, up from 2.83ghz.
Considering that a single 580 is much faster, I would say that you would need around 3.8-4.0ghz on your cpu to eliminate any bottleneck. If your not sure any a cpu bottleneck, then re-run your test to get a baseline, then OC your cpu 100mhz at a time until your score stops increasing. Once you have found your GHZ requirement, run OCCT for 30 minutes, or prime95 for 24 hours to ensure system stability.
In my experiences with re-using older cards as a dedicated physics card..... Anything less than a 260/216 or 280 will just not hang with todays benches or games.
In most cases, more ram is always better. But in your case with different ram sizes, remove the 1gigs sticks and re-run the tests.
I know that your Q9650 is bottlenecking your 580. Because my last rig was a Q9550 with x2 260 core216 SC's in sli with 8 gigs of ram, and my cpu was bottlenecking those cards until I OCed it to 3.4ghz, up from 2.83ghz.
Considering that a single 580 is much faster, I would say that you would need around 3.8-4.0ghz on your cpu to eliminate any bottleneck. If your not sure any a cpu bottleneck, then re-run your test to get a baseline, then OC your cpu 100mhz at a time until your score stops increasing. Once you have found your GHZ requirement, run OCCT for 30 minutes, or prime95 for 24 hours to ensure system stability.
Dude, I just said 95% of that!
I guess I didn't say to stability test after the OC, but I wasn't bothering with OC instructions. If we're doing that...
Make sure you set all voltages to manual and default when you start your OC and set RAM to its slowest timings while you OC the CPU, then turn it up after you have your final CPU OC.
I guess I didn't say to stability test after the OC, but I wasn't bothering with OC instructions. If we're doing that...
Make sure you set all voltages to manual and default when you start your OC and set RAM to its slowest timings while you OC the CPU, then turn it up after you have your final CPU OC.
When PSUs are under load they get hotter. When they get hotter the fan spins up and gets louder. If it is load though, that is a little odd. What PSU do you have? You should have a 550W or maybe larger to use a GTX 580.
As far as OC'ing--make sure not to increase voltages too high. It's best to leave them on manual defaults until it starts having stability issues. If you leave it on Auto, sometimes motherboards scale voltage with clock speed and will overvoltage components. Let me know if you'd like an OC'ing crash course (I am not responsible if you fry your system, not that I've ever damaged components).
As far as OC'ing--make sure not to increase voltages too high. It's best to leave them on manual defaults until it starts having stability issues. If you leave it on Auto, sometimes motherboards scale voltage with clock speed and will overvoltage components. Let me know if you'd like an OC'ing crash course (I am not responsible if you fry your system, not that I've ever damaged components).
dalauder said:
When PSUs are under load they get hotter. When they get hotter the fan spins up and gets louder. If it is load though, that is a little odd. What PSU do you have? You should have a 550W or maybe larger to use a GTX 580.As far as OC'ing--make sure not to increase voltages too high. It's best to leave them on manual defaults until it starts having stability issues. If you leave it on Auto, sometimes motherboards scale voltage with clock speed and will overvoltage components. Let me know if you'd like an OC'ing crash course (I am not responsible if you fry your system, not that I've ever damaged components).
its def not the fan, it sounds like eeeeee something like that, i have a 750w psu. i just purchase a xfx 850w black edition
sniper2606 said:
this is what i boughtCORSAIR XMS3 4GB ddr3
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W
MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel
XFX black edition 850w psu
grand total $600, i think thats very cheap
what do you guys think?
I think you made a big mistake. You should have gotten a i5-2500k/i7-2600k, both are faster than what you bought and both overclock to about 4.6-4.8ghz.
The i5-2500K is only $229.
Oh well, what's your score now?
geekapproved said:
I think you made a big mistake. You should have gotten a i5-2500k/i7-2600k, both are faster than what you bought and both overclock to about 4.6-4.8ghz.The i5-2500K is only $229.
Oh well, what's your score now?
well i got the i core 7 new "open box" for only $209.... and plus isnt the i5-2500k LGA 1156?
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Might go for 225 but not many are going to pay that price. 225 gets you a 2500K, add another 175 for memory and a P67 board and you have a killer upgrade
Well the one at $255 has 23 bids
and there is still 6 days left in the auction. LOLhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q9650-3-GHz-BX805...
You can sell a Q9650 for over $150 I think. But you really could've gotten full performance out of the GTX 580 with it if you wanted.
You REALLY should return what you just purchased and start a new thread here for building a system. We'll get you the best possible build for your buck. $600 is a decent price for that stuff, but it's nothing special.
You REALLY should return what you just purchased and start a new thread here for building a system. We'll get you the best possible build for your buck. $600 is a decent price for that stuff, but it's nothing special.
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