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Wanting to get into gaming..help me build my rig?

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April 30, 2012 5:46:31 AM

i am thinking of building my own PC, in order to get away from the horror of consoles modifying games to fit there abilities.....i Am looking to spend about $400 to $450 on a mobo but it has to fits this criteria...any suggestions and advice greatly appreciated!

1. needs to support 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


2. needs to support http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am looking for it to fit in this case http://www.xoxide.com/raidmax-aeolus-case.html but if bigger is needed please offer sugestions...thank you to all future posters, you will be doing me a huge favor....i just wanna make my first rig right :sol: 

Also DDR3 up to 16GB or ram support would be nice as well! thanks again future poster
April 30, 2012 5:48:19 AM

oh and almost forgot...i know im a need some power....so 800 watt or whatever u may think is needed will help out greatly
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April 30, 2012 6:10:20 AM

You don't need 800 Watt for that graphic card, a 550W will fit the bill and lower your cost too, and there can still be a lot of combination for the rest of system as you still need ram, Hard drive, casing, mouse keyboard, optical drive(maybe) etc so u can either visit the local market to get quotation or choose a board with supports both with min. cost or any other specific demand and then choose the rest which is still in budget.
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April 30, 2012 6:19:20 AM

i have allocated $100 for ram , i have a 2TB hd on site, as for keyboards and what not i got the basic odds and ends covered. i just dont wanna get a mobo that willl do as i intend, only to find out i shitted myself on a case lol. the reason i say 800W is because of wanting to crossfire. i have my PCU and GPU picked out, just trying to make sure i get a mobo to fit the bill and a case that can handle housing my first rig :sol: 
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April 30, 2012 8:02:42 AM

Why AMD CPUs and not Intel's? They're better for gaming.
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April 30, 2012 8:42:43 AM

instead of spending a crazy 400$ on a mobo get this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... + http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... put the money saved from the mobo into the CPU. it has 2X PCIe 3.0 running dual at 8X which is the same is PCIe 2.0 running at 16x and GPUs dont even reach PCIe 2.0 8x. get the ivy bridge. that amd will bottleneck a few FPS in cpu hungry games like BF3 etc etc and will need to be upgraded very soon. a 3570k scores 6,742 in passmark cpu benchs, 965 gets 4,2002. i would go with nvidia too. wait for the gt 650 or gtx 660 to come out. the gt 650 is supposed to be better than the 560 by a bit, and use much less power, so you can save money on your PSU too. if you want to and have the time to wait, do it, you wont regret it.
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April 30, 2012 10:30:41 AM

what i was thinking is getting that mobo and since intil chip sets are highly recommend by asus itself im prolly going to get a intel chip set instead. plus that mobo can do what i ask of it with my crossfire at half of what i was looking to spend...does Nvidia have something along them lines? and could u recommend a card/ cards to do it with? im just wanting my first rig to last lol....and a case being how i just sold this thing im using now when i build my rig lol

to gecko....i was always told that intel chip sets were ill say garbage. that and Amd and ATI is all i know really lol like i mentioned before first rig and i want it oer the top so it will last my a long time and ill be able to play games for ike the nexxt cpl years and be able to just put it in and go, and just say *** all to requirements cause i know i have nothing to worry about lol

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April 30, 2012 10:34:58 AM

or like this i want to have an overkill so that later on i wont have to worr about a kill joy lmao :)  had to.....sorry...lol
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April 30, 2012 10:39:58 AM

and for skyrim fans i dont wanna have to say this..." I once had a great pc...but then i took an arrow to the knee" lmao..alright im done :) 
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April 30, 2012 8:09:13 PM

LOL! are you planning on buying 1 card now and then a 2nd later on? or are you just gonna buy 2 at once? if you are going to buy 2, dont. you should spend around 300$ on a good single card, then when you are due for an upgrade, you can just throw in another one for sli/cfx. if you buy 2 you willl have to replace both of them, then try to sell them on ebay or something for about 70$ (because no one wants these things after a few years of use, and they will be very old tech by then) it will save you money, and it will be even more future proof. go nvidia. how much time do you have to build this thing? nvidia will be releasing either their gtx670, 660 or 660ti in may, and i would suggest buying one of those from a decent company like EVGA or saphire. if you just cant wait, get the gtx 560 ti. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

as for ram, if you are getting the mobo i suggested, get this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... 2 of them are blue, 2 of them are black, so put the black ones in the black ram sockets and the blue ones in the blue ram sockets! :D  it will look awesome that way. do you plan on overclocking? if so, i suggest grabbing a hyper212+ off of newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... free shipping to US, free 4ft HDMI cable, and 10$ rebates make it 20$. amazing deal. it will keep your i5 around the 30s-50s. very amazing CPU cooler with a insane price. but to be honest, im not sure if it will fit on that motherboard. im building my 2nd gaming rig for my 14th birthday, and im using the same mobo. im gonna start ordering my parts next week, il try to let you know if that monster will fit on the motherboard, unless you finish before me ;P
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April 30, 2012 8:16:37 PM

loki82587 said:
i am thnking http://www.google.com/products/catalog?num=100&hl=en&sa... for mobo since it says it can handle multiple cards


dont get that one. its a p67 chipset. you deffinantly want a Z77 chipset. its outdated, and you cant use ivy bridge CPUs with it making it not very future proof. with the mobo i suggested you can also get windows 8 if you like when it comes out. i dont think you will be able to with that mobo. its deffinantly not worth 200$. maybe when p67s were brand new but deffinantly not now.
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April 30, 2012 8:43:34 PM

in that case thanks for the heads up
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April 30, 2012 11:18:52 PM

The statement that P67 won't support IB is FALSE

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2614...
http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21765-ivy-bridg...
http://communities.intel.com/thread/27935

Re: P67 support for Ivy bridge
While that information has not been officially released by Intel, the most reputable PC hardware review web sites have published articles that clearly state that Ivy Bridge will use socket 1155, and is compatible with the P67 chipset, with a UEFI/BIOS update from your mother board manufacture. I've seen PR statements from at least one mother board manufacture that said their UEFI/BIOS update for Ivy Bridge CPUs is available now, or will be soon.


All 6-series chipsets are not compatible with Ivy Bridge, the B65 and Q67 are not compatible.


With Ivy Bridge, new 7-series chipsets will be introduced for mother boards, which can be used with socket 1155 Sandy Bridge CPUs.

You have to do your own searches and read up to decide for yourself about features required for your build...I personally see NO reason to NOT use P67 as support for IB AND USB 3.0 have been included in the Bios updates of ALL the major Vendors!!

It's a personal choice and bang for the buck exists on both sides of this question...it's all in what you prefer and like.

Respectfully,
tekman42
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May 1, 2012 12:35:20 AM

tekman42 said:
The statement that P67 won't support IB is FALSE

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2614...
http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21765-ivy-bridg...
http://communities.intel.com/thread/27935

Re: P67 support for Ivy bridge
While that information has not been officially released by Intel, the most reputable PC hardware review web sites have published articles that clearly state that Ivy Bridge will use socket 1155, and is compatible with the P67 chipset, with a UEFI/BIOS update from your mother board manufacture. I've seen PR statements from at least one mother board manufacture that said their UEFI/BIOS update for Ivy Bridge CPUs is available now, or will be soon.


All 6-series chipsets are not compatible with Ivy Bridge, the B65 and Q67 are not compatible.


With Ivy Bridge, new 7-series chipsets will be introduced for mother boards, which can be used with socket 1155 Sandy Bridge CPUs.

You have to do your own searches and read up to decide for yourself about features required for your build...I personally see NO reason to NOT use P67 as support for IB AND USB 3.0 have been included in the Bios updates of ALL the major Vendors!!

It's a personal choice and bang for the buck exists on both sides of this question...it's all in what you prefer and like.

Respectfully,
tekman42


I did do my research, that's where i got my info. :lol:  I'm going to try finding the link where i got this incorrect info, and try to find a way to contact the guy poisoning learners heads. i knew the z68/h67 can support ivy bridge with a BIOS/UFI/UEFI update, but i thought the p67 was among that strange group with the b65 and q67. thanks for the correction, i do appreciate how you did it respectively instead of calling me a retard or something similar. and my apologies to loki, i almost started a chain of incorrect info. (well no, that website did, i just continued it :kaola:  you get the point) have fun with your build! most the fun in computers is building them! :D  :D 
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May 1, 2012 2:35:46 AM

thanks for the info tekman and lol no worries marshall..nobody can know everything 100% :)  in that case im good to go..ill post pics to fallow this thread up once completed..thank yall for your help! :) 
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May 31, 2012 8:56:57 AM

Way to go fellas...I always like to look at at least 3-5 articles that either support the information I want to use or deny the validity of the information I believe to be true...I've cooked my own goose a few times myself...it's not hard to speed read a few lines and miss the correction or point of the article.

With that said...what you did is to help us all eliminate a article with bad information so that others reading these see what happened and can avoid the pitfall of bad information when making a purchase or build decision and trying to match up components, capabilities, and new hardware.

We all want to make it the "best" for the hard earned money we all spend on our rigs...no harm...no foul.

Shoot...if I only stick my foot in my mouth once a day....it's been a good day in the neighborhoodP:) :) 

No worries and you guys have a great one...keep the information and questions flying...its' what we all like to do..help and be helped!!!
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May 31, 2012 8:57:12 AM

Way to go fellas...I always like to look at at least 3-5 articles that either support the information I want to use or deny the validity of the information I believe to be true...I've cooked my own goose a few times myself...it's not hard to speed read a few lines and miss the correction or point of the article.

With that said...what you did is to help us all eliminate a article with bad information so that others reading these see what happened and can avoid the pitfall of bad information when making a purchase or build decision and trying to match up components, capabilities, and new hardware.

We all want to make it the "best" for the hard earned money we all spend on our rigs...no harm...no foul.

Shoot...if I only stick my foot in my mouth once a day....it's been a good day in the neighborhoodP:) :) 

No worries and you guys have a great one...keep the information and questions flying...its' what we all like to do..help and be helped!!!
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May 31, 2012 9:09:08 AM

loki82587 said:
thanks for the info tekman and lol no worries marshall..nobody can know everything 100% :)  in that case im good to go..ill post pics to fallow this thread up once completed..thank yall for your help! :) 



:bounce:  Hey my friend,

Glad this helped you out...we are all here to help...certainly not to pick on others like Marshall...bad info exists everywhere...I never believe anything I read until I check it with my preferred sites...like techspot, techpowerup...ms...all the manufacturers pages...etc...the best info comes from the actual maker of the component in question...as to how it's guaranteed to work...the best info for how to MAKE it work when it won't work as advertised...is from places like these FORUMS...remember...the only stupid question is the one NOT asked :non: 

Glad to be here...glad to help...and I regularly stick my foot in my mouth just like everybody else :pt1cable: 

Certainly looking forward to those pics and hope it all goes well for your build :sol: 
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