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March 9, 2011 4:14:56 AM

Hello

In the next month im planning to upgrade my GPU. But i can't figure it out which should i take.
If i would take the GTX460, would it max out everything about a year further?
But if i would take a HD6850 then i would unlock it to HD6870 and maybe later Crossfire it. Would that handle newest games on max?

My other PC specs:
Intel core i5 760 3.2Ghz OC
4GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
Now i have a Codegen 400W PSU, butill upgrade it to Xilence 550W or more powerful.
Now i have a 8400GS (it sucks :D )
17inch monitor, resolution-1280*1024

I want to play CoD,GTA4,Crysis 2 and maybe some more newer games on max settings.

More about : hd6850 gtx460

March 9, 2011 4:25:22 AM

I am quite positive that its the 6950 that unlocks to a 6970, not the 6850. if i am wrong though let me know, my 6850 just came in the mail today :) 
March 9, 2011 4:31:25 AM

A 6850 can never unlock to a 6870. Only 6950 could unlock to a 6970.
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March 9, 2011 4:34:34 AM

alikum said:
A 6850 can never unlock to a 6870. Only 6950 could unlock to a 6970.

Why is it only for the HD6950?
March 9, 2011 4:39:13 AM

Maybe i should add some extra money and after about 3-5 months buy a HD6950?
March 9, 2011 5:05:08 AM

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first batch HD6950s were merely HD6970s downclocked with bad cores locked, much like AMD's Phenom II lineup.
and second batch HD6950s 2GB or 1GB dont even have the same PCb as the HD6970.
same goes for the radeon HD6850, different PCBs compared to 6870
and at that resolution, even a HD5670 is enough

Would HD5670 be enaugh powerful to play newest games on max?
March 9, 2011 5:22:04 AM

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at 1280*800, yes

What would be more future proof:
HD5670 or HD6850?

And btw im planning to play on 1280*1024, not on 1280*800
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 9, 2011 5:42:03 AM

The cards are mostly equal. The GTX460 is the better choice as it OCs better. Unless you have to spend a lot more to get it I'd go for that and OC it for all its worth. If you don't want to OC it, then just get whatever is cheaper.

1280x1024 is the "normal" 4:3 ratio. 1280x800 is the newer 16:9 ratio. Its a bit smaller, but they mean the same resolution more or less.
March 9, 2011 5:55:03 AM

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HD 5770 if u may, unless u plan to upgrade ur monitor, i dont see the point of grabbing a HD 6850

But HD5770 isnt so futureproof as HD6850 (i think)
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 9, 2011 6:02:14 AM

future proof wise there isn't a lot of difference between the cards. They both support the same code paths (DX level, SM, etc.) so its not like your choosing a DX 11 vs DX10. Yes the 6850 is faster so it will handle newer games longer, but you always run the risk that something new will come out that will kill your old card. Meaning sure the 4870 was a fast card, but it only supports DX10 now so it won't handle any new DX11 games/effects.
March 9, 2011 6:22:33 AM

4745454b said:
future proof wise there isn't a lot of difference between the cards. They both support the same code paths (DX level, SM, etc.) so its not like your choosing a DX 11 vs DX10. Yes the 6850 is faster so it will handle newer games longer, but you always run the risk that something new will come out that will kill your old card. Meaning sure the 4870 was a fast card, but it only supports DX10 now so it won't handle any new DX11 games/effects.

So what do u suggest?
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 9, 2011 6:24:01 AM

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The GTX460 is the better choice as it OCs better. Unless you have to spend a lot more to get it I'd go for that and OC it for all its worth. If you don't want to OC it, then just get whatever is cheaper.


Assuming these cards are in your budget.
March 9, 2011 6:26:15 AM

4745454b said:
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The GTX460 is the better choice as it OCs better. Unless you have to spend a lot more to get it I'd go for that and OC it for all its worth. If you don't want to OC it, then just get whatever is cheaper.


Assuming these cards are in your budget.

Well my budget is about 190$
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 9, 2011 6:43:02 AM

Are you in the US? You should be able to get a 5850 for that. If you can get around $220ish (depending on sale/rebate) you can get the 5870. Not sure what the GTX470 or GTX560 is currently running at.

I'm not sure how well your "Xilence 550W" will handle these, and they are of course massive overkill for such a low res. I'd probably stick with getting one of the cards you mentioned in the title and spend any left over $$$ on a better PSU.
March 9, 2011 6:56:08 AM

4745454b said:
Are you in the US? You should be able to get a 5850 for that. If you can get around $220ish (depending on sale/rebate) you can get the 5870. Not sure what the GTX470 or GTX560 is currently running at.

I'm not sure how well your "Xilence 550W" will handle these, and they are of course massive overkill for such a low res. I'd probably stick with getting one of the cards you mentioned in the title and spend any left over $$$ on a better PSU.

Maybe i should get a HD6850 and a Technoware 650W PSU or Corsair CX430W 80+ PSU.
March 9, 2011 7:20:52 AM

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Buy a new monitor............

Too expensive
March 9, 2011 10:18:15 AM

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ur budget, 190 USD or pounds?

I dont live in USA or GB. I live in Latvia, but i have 190$ (USD)
March 9, 2011 11:41:12 AM

Hey anyway, what does SSD gives?
March 9, 2011 11:52:40 AM

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speed, not worth buying IMO, unless u want ur PC to boot in 2 seconds as oppose to 30 secs with a regular HDD

Yeah, not worth it :D 
I think im going to get a HD6850.
But tnx anyway. How can i mark the best answer?
March 10, 2011 12:53:18 PM

Hey, but would i need some extra case fan? Because now i dont have any1.
I have fan only on PSU, CPU and GPU.
a b U Graphics card
March 10, 2011 8:26:09 PM

Hey i pretty have the same thing to choose, both cards pretty good and worth each other, MSI has better cooler while Sapphire is clocker higher ;) 
a b U Graphics card
March 10, 2011 8:26:26 PM

clocked*
March 12, 2011 3:37:52 PM

I think im gonna go with the HD6850.
But i can't find a PSU that would smoothly handle it in single or maybe CF.
http://www.tecnoware.com/UK/dettaglio.asp?idf=42&ids=13 Technoware 650W

Fortron BoosterX 3 300W Active PFC VGA Power / SLI Ready / 2 x PCI-E maybe this one?

http://work.xilence.net/en/products/power-supplies/red-... Xilence 550W

MODECOM PSU 620W 14CM ATX12V2.2 4XSATA This one?

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=... Gigabyte Superb 550W

http://www.corsair.com/builder-series-cx430.html

Please help me !


a c 171 U Graphics card
March 13, 2011 4:32:23 AM

Avoid the booster models. 40mm fans are to be avoided at all costs. Of the ones you listed I would trust the Corsair 430 the most. It has 2 less amps on the 12V rail then the Gigabyte, but lacks that little red switch so its probably more efficient. The others reek of junk.
March 13, 2011 7:24:10 AM

4745454b said:
Avoid the booster models. 40mm fans are to be avoided at all costs. Of the ones you listed I would trust the Corsair 430 the most. It has 2 less amps on the 12V rail then the Gigabyte, but lacks that little red switch so its probably more efficient. The others reek of junk.

But which PSU could handle HD6850 in CF?
March 13, 2011 7:52:07 AM

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SeaSonic M12SII 550watt

Too bad its too expensive in my country.
March 13, 2011 8:10:12 AM

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hm......Cooler Master GX 550 watt ?
not the best, not recommended for cfx setup, but should be ok enough for one card

If i go single, then i take Xilence 550W
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 13, 2011 8:33:21 AM

If you go one card the Corsair I mentioned is fine. For two, you'll need something with more power. I can't comment on the "Xilence", but if the name is any indication its probably junk as well.
March 13, 2011 8:59:58 AM

4745454b said:
If you go one card the Corsair I mentioned is fine. For two, you'll need something with more power. I can't comment on the "Xilence", but if the name is any indication its probably junk as well.

How many the 12V should be for CF?
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 13, 2011 9:19:54 AM

It depends on the card you pick of course. The cards you've listed are anywhere from 150W to 200W for the OC'd models. This means you need 400W just for the cards alone if you want to run two of them. 400W / 12V = 34A. Toss in another 10 to 15 depending on your CPU and overclocks on that. I would say 45A minimum, something with 50A would be better.
March 13, 2011 9:30:20 AM

4745454b said:
It depends on the card you pick of course. The cards you've listed are anywhere from 150W to 200W for the OC'd models. This means you need 400W just for the cards alone if you want to run two of them. 400W / 12V = 34A. Toss in another 10 to 15 depending on your CPU and overclocks on that. I would say 45A minimum, something with 50A would be better.

I think i'll just stick with one HD6850 on 1280*1024 on max about 1.5 years. (with Xilence 550W PSU)
About 2 years later i will CF it and buy a new powerful PSU.
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 13, 2011 9:59:24 AM

I'd take the Corsair myself.
March 23, 2011 5:44:14 PM

Again, im stuck in middle of completing my gaming PC.
Im stuck between HD6850 and HD5850 for 1280*1024 res.
Also, it would be verey, very good if u could find me a cheapest PSu that would handle one or maybe two of these GPU's in a page called www.salidzini.lv (its a Latvian page.)
The max budget for PSU is 40Ls and for GPU is 120Ls.
+ I need to buy a case fan so additional 5Ls
March 24, 2011 7:32:01 AM

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If u want a HD5850, u'll need a more powerful PSU, so go for the Radeon 6k and about ur PSU, I think the Xilence 550w should be able to handle it ....
but not recommended though

Would a OCZ Stealthstream 600 would handle HD6850 or HD5850 in CF?
March 24, 2011 1:08:01 PM

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it might be able to handle HD6850s in CFX, but i wouldnt push it with the 5850 in CFX

What kind of 12V rating would be minimum for HD6850 CFX or single? Should 25A be good?
March 24, 2011 2:06:32 PM

Or maybe save some giga money and get the XFX Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition and a decent PSU. (That should be crazy, but i think it would be pretty futureproof.)
March 24, 2011 2:28:19 PM

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5970 is crap with the release of the 6990. The 5970's retail worth has dropped to 350 dollars

So u suggest the HD6990? :D 
March 24, 2011 3:18:50 PM

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^ u'll need a nuclear pwoer plant to fuel it

Thats why i don't want to get a HD6990. And im on budget too. The best what i can afford is HD5970.
It would be overkill on 1280*1024 res, but i think it would be futureproof.
March 25, 2011 6:18:31 AM

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go for a 6850, it's almost overkill for 1280*800, but it's power consumption is only pretty low

But the HD5970 would be more futureproof, right?
March 25, 2011 8:33:08 AM

But anyway, what should be better: HD5970 2Gb or GTX580? :D 
March 25, 2011 8:42:59 AM

Somethimes i connect my PC to 45inch TV and play games there on min settings with my current GPU(Nvidia 8400GS)
But actually if I would get the HD5970 2Gb BE and a 700W OCZ Stealthstream PSU, it would be enaugh futureproof(about 1.5Years), right?

And i hope my other PC wouldnt be a bottleneck for HD5970
My PC specs:
Intel core i5 760 3.2Ghz
4Gb DDR3 1333Mhz RAM

March 25, 2011 9:28:50 AM

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Dont be crazy, if u have the cash to buy a radeon 5970, grab a powerful power supply, instead of a overkilll graphics card............or a new monitor

For now my default monitor is a 22inch LG(1920*1080)
I would grab a HD5970 and a very powerful PSU
March 25, 2011 9:42:57 AM

But im not sure about the fitting in my case with HD6850 or HD5970.
I dont have a big case. Its like medium size
March 25, 2011 9:53:32 AM

The avaiable lenght for a GPU in my case is about 8.26 inches.
March 25, 2011 10:29:05 AM

Oww and my case is Codegen ATX-6102
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