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AMD 3500+ to Intel i5-2500k build... WHAT?

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May 19, 2011 2:14:49 AM

Hey guys, i'm finally going to build a new computer for my graduation.

Approximate Purchase Date: 1-2 Weeks

Budget Range: $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, xilinx, vegas, ps, 3-d pr0n (joke)

Parts Not Required: Mouse, Keyboard, Not upgrading monitor yet

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, but will shop other reputable sites with better prices

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: i5/i7

Overclocking: Slight

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 for now, 1920x1200 a few weeks after I build the computer

Part's List:
  • Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2B/128GB 2.5" 128GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Opened to ANY suggestions on parts.
    May 19, 2011 2:19:50 AM

    you dont need a z68 board if you have that big of an ssd go with the asrock p67 extreme4 on newegg for 160$. what case are you getting. also for that resolution 1900x1200 the 6970 wins so look into that
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    May 19, 2011 2:21:11 AM

    oh sorry just saw your case also get the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb hdd at amazon for 60$ free shipping it is just as fast as that drive
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    May 19, 2011 2:25:46 AM

    mjmjpfaff said:
    you dont need a z68 board if you have that big of an ssd go with the asrock p67 extreme4 on newegg for 160$. what case are you getting. also for that resolution 1900x1200 the 6970 wins so look into that


    Sorry I submitted my post before I was done writing it... I'm getting the HAF 939 case.

    I'll look into bot the p67 extreme4 board and t he 6970 gpu... Which 6970 manufacturer would you recommend?
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    May 19, 2011 2:29:23 AM

    they are all good just find one that suits your budget.
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    May 19, 2011 2:39:34 AM

    mjmjpfaff said:
    oh sorry just saw your case also get the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb hdd at amazon for 60$ free shipping it is just as fast as that drive


    From the reviews on amazon, it seems as though the ship the drive horribly.... so I don't know if it's worth the savings.

    Also, I read the 570 responds very well to overclocking, does the 6970 overclock good aswell?
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    May 19, 2011 2:59:36 AM

    yes it does and they have fixed that shipping problem
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    May 19, 2011 7:32:44 PM

    I'm thinking about waiting till more companies produce ssds comparable to OCZ. Should I do this? If so, should I still go with a P67 mobo?
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    May 19, 2011 7:39:53 PM

    For the 570, get a PNY with a lifetime warranty and overclock it yourself in Afterburner. It will be a bit cheaper than the EVGA, and since they are both reference designs the EVGA doensn't offer any better cooling. I'm running two 570's a Galaxy and a PNY and tbh they are doing great, and both were 300 bucks after MIR, versus around 330-350 for a EVGA/ASUS/Zotac reference card. Both overclock to 850/1900 no problem, just dont push any 570 past 1.1V regardless of brand or design as they fry above that level.
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    May 19, 2011 8:43:51 PM

    raptorjesus said:
    For the 570, get a PNY with a lifetime warranty and overclock it yourself in Afterburner. It will be a bit cheaper than the EVGA, and since they are both reference designs the EVGA doensn't offer any better cooling. I'm running two 570's a Galaxy and a PNY and tbh they are doing great, and both were 300 bucks after MIR, versus around 330-350 for a EVGA/ASUS/Zotac reference card. Both overclock to 850/1900 no problem, just dont push any 570 past 1.1V regardless of brand or design as they fry above that level.


    Ok i'll keep that in mind.

    Which cooler should I go with:
    Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    or

    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Also, regarding win 7. Can I use a Microsoft Windows 7 Professional UPGRADE, instead of an OEM version of win 7 if I can use an XP key from my current computer? Will I be able to do a clean install (as in, will I not have to install xp/vista before installing 7)? If I would have to install xp/vista first, would I have to do this every time I reformat?
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    May 19, 2011 11:10:28 PM

    IMO, the GTX570's are great cards but, about $100 overpriced once compared to 6950s which cost significantly less.

    SSDs are great, but, for gaming on any sort of a limited budget, I'd much rather have P67 board with twin 6950's, skipping the SSD, unless of ourse I had money to burn.
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    May 20, 2011 3:02:36 AM

    If i'm only going to be running a single 1920x1200 display, will SLI/crossfire offer a huge advantage? I've never ran one of these setups so I don't even know how much of a performance increase I will see.
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    May 20, 2011 7:25:53 PM

    Deciding to take a more premium direction with more aggressive OC'ing. mjmjpfaff will probably rage :) 

    Part's List:
  • Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


    This change in direction is partly due to a post raptorjesus made in another thread. I'm springing for a 580 now with the intention of upgrading to another in the future when my setup starts feeling a little shitty :) 

    Also, debating between the haf 932 advanced or the haf x.

    What do you guys think?
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    May 20, 2011 7:34:41 PM

    Kreeker said:
    Deciding to take a more premium direction with more aggressive OC'ing. mjmjpfaff will probably rage :) 

    Part's List:
  • Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


    This change in direction is partly due to a post raptorjesus made in another thread. I'm springing for a 580 now with the intention of upgrading to another in the future when my setup starts feeling a little shitty :) 

    Also, debating between the haf 932 advanced or the haf x.

    What do you guys think?



  • Looks killer, I would go a bit beefier on the PSU if you want to run 2x 580s. Maybe a 850HX or 1000W if you plan on overclocking the 580s. Otherwise I'm totally jealous of the build great system.
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    May 20, 2011 7:45:41 PM

    raptorjesus said:
    Looks killer, I would go a bit beefier on the PSU if you want to run 2x 580s. Maybe a 850HX or 1000W if you plan on overclocking the 580s. Otherwise I'm totally jealous of the build great system.


    Thanks dude. This is my gift for working my ass off to receive an EE degree with honors :) 

    I switched out the power supply for an 850HX. Will that be enough if I overclock 2 580s?
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    May 20, 2011 7:52:39 PM

    Should be, I specced out you PC roughly on a watt calculator and came up with like 700 Watts at stock clocks. The 850 HX is a great PSU, puts out super clean power at nearly 90% efficiency and can handle up to a 1000W output apparently. I use it and love the modular cables, it has 2 built in PCI-e cables with 8pin connectors which you need for a single 580, and it has extra modular 8 pins for the second card when you need it. It runs my overclocked i5-2500k and overclocked 570s in SLI no problem. Can't say enough good things about the HX850.

    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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    May 20, 2011 7:56:30 PM

    raptorjesus said:
    Should be, I specced out you PC roughly on a watt calculator and came up with like 700 Watts at stock clocks. The 850 HX is a great PSU, puts out super clean power at nearly 90% efficiency and can handle up to a 1000W output apparently. I use it and love the modular cables, it has 2 built in PCI-e cables with 8pin connectors which you need for a single 580, and it has extra modular 8 pins for the second card when you need it. It runs my overclocked i5-2500k and overclocked 570s in SLI no problem. Can't say enough good things about the HX850.

    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...


    Thanks for running those numbers. Makes me feel a lot better!
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    May 20, 2011 8:00:59 PM

    Also, I have a 74gb raptor from my previous build.... Should I bother using it for my OS/games over the spinpoint?
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    May 20, 2011 8:03:28 PM

    You could go with these G.Skill dimms instead. They are slightly looser in the timings, but not by much. I own two sets and they are wonderful. They also run @1.5V instead of 1.6V, leading me to believe the same timings would be achievable for $35 less. Also, check out the reviews.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Also, to maximize value, I second the idea of going w/ P67 over Z68. Z68's implementation of QS and SSD caching are lackluster for most users and they are charging a decent premium for it.
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    May 20, 2011 8:48:00 PM

    raptorjesus said:
    Any RAM from this search on Newegg would do, I have the Corsair Vengence Blue, but 1.5V is better and in this case cheaper.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


    Going with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    As for windows, should I go for home or professional? Also, should I go for the upgrade (I can get it for $30) or the oem version? If I have to first install xp/vista EACH time I reformat, I'm not going with the upgrade...
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    May 21, 2011 6:26:37 PM

    Even though I'm not going with a ssd just yet, I'm thinking of going with a ASUS P8Z68-V PRO. I'm hesitant though, because the asus/asrock p67s are already proven to produce stable overclocking...
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    May 22, 2011 3:35:58 PM

    Kreeker said:
    Deciding to take a more premium direction with more aggressive OC'ing. mjmjpfaff will probably rage :) 

    Part's List:
  • Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

  • Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


    This change in direction is partly due to a post raptorjesus made in another thread. I'm springing for a 580 now with the intention of upgrading to another in the future when my setup starts feeling a little shitty :) 

    Also, debating between the haf 932 advanced or the haf x.

    What do you guys think?


  • why would i rage?
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    May 23, 2011 5:10:21 AM

    mjmjpfaff said:
    why would i rage?


    Just kidding...

    Should I upgrade to a 1000W or 1200 W if I'm planning on running a second 580 in the future.. I think it will be cutting it very close, if not impossible, if i'm OC'ing and running 2 580s.
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    May 23, 2011 6:46:47 AM

    Hi, I read your first post thinking it was a new thread :)  Then saw the answers and some of them were EXACTLY what I was going to say. Good deal.

    On the PSU, I trust this source a great deal (and PSUs are my focus):
    http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

    That shows some pretty hefty numbers for OC GTX 580 SLI... no max but I estimate 800W. So if you were going to overclock the 580s I think a true 1200W would be in order... something that delivers at least 95 amps on the 12V rails.

    Having said that long experience building and helping out here has shown me that few people that plan to SLI/crossfire later do. Especially people that buy single powerful cards.
    What actually happens is they have NO REASON to upgrade until it's far too late to add a second card. When they finally feel a need, there's a new single card out that is so much better it no longer makes any sense to pay for a second card of the type they have.
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    May 23, 2011 5:01:32 PM

    Proximon said:
    Hi, I read your first post thinking it was a new thread :)  Then saw the answers and some of them were EXACTLY what I was going to say. Good deal.

    On the PSU, I trust this source a great deal (and PSUs are my focus):
    http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

    That shows some pretty hefty numbers for OC GTX 580 SLI... no max but I estimate 800W. So if you were going to overclock the 580s I think a true 1200W would be in order... something that delivers at least 95 amps on the 12V rails.

    Having said that long experience building and helping out here has shown me that few people that plan to SLI/crossfire later do. Especially people that buy single powerful cards.
    What actually happens is they have NO REASON to upgrade until it's far too late to add a second card. When they finally feel a need, there's a new single card out that is so much better it no longer makes any sense to pay for a second card of the type they have.


    Awesome response.

    As I was writing my last reply, I was thinking to myself am I really going to buy another 580. My first build was 7-8 years ago when I was 13, and I never upgraded a single part on the computer. Here are the specs just so you can cry:
    3500+
    x800pro
    1gb ram

    Now I'm older and under different circumstances, but I still don't know if i'd be upgrading that often. I know it's impossible to make a guess like this, but how soon would I have to upgrade to another 580 to make it actually worth it over a single more powerful card?

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    May 23, 2011 8:04:04 PM

    My rule of thumb has always been 6-8 months, that's the window where you are more likely to upgrade. After that the price of your card will start to climb, so you'll end up buying a used one. After about 14 months it will absolutely make no sense.
    I have a friend that spent 6K having a custom built computer built. It has a QX9650 and three GTX 280s..... He still has the machine but recently had to upgrade to GTX 580s.
    Meanwhile, my computer has long since passed him up in computing power and features. And most importantly our gaming experiences are identical... except I have a single 5870 :lol: 

    So in my opinion a single GTX 580 already has what margin you need built into it. I don't really consider it a good buy. I would rather see you get a pair of GTX 560ti or 6950s. Better bang for the buck.
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    May 24, 2011 6:53:45 AM

    Proximon said:
    My rule of thumb has always been 6-8 months, that's the window where you are more likely to upgrade. After that the price of your card will start to climb, so you'll end up buying a used one. After about 14 months it will absolutely make no sense.
    I have a friend that spent 6K having a custom built computer built. It has a QX9650 and three GTX 280s..... He still has the machine but recently had to upgrade to GTX 580s.
    Meanwhile, my computer has long since passed him up in computing power and features. And most importantly our gaming experiences are identical... except I have a single 5870 :lol: 

    So in my opinion a single GTX 580 already has what margin you need built into it. I don't really consider it a good buy. I would rather see you get a pair of GTX 560ti or 6950s. Better bang for the buck.


    Man it is really hard for me to come to a decision with all of these differing opinions. On a lot of threads I read, many people write it's better to stick to a single card because of driver issues, heat, stability. Others say, buy these cheaper cards, sli/crossfire them and get as good or better performance as a single expansive card.

    I personally am not too fond of ati after dealing with imo shitty drivers for my x800pro. I don't know if ATI has picked up their game after being acquired by amd, but I hear they are slow with updating crossfire support for certain games. So if I was to go with 2 cards it would be with nvidia. The problem with this is, i'd have to upgrade to a 1200 watt psu.

    I'm almost 90% set on the MSI N580GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 580 or the R6970 Lightning Radeon HD 6970 2GB. I don't know if the slight performance increase of the 580 is worth $100 though...

    And of course everyday I start questioning another one of my parts.... Now I'm thinking about going with a z68 board, the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO, over ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0). Although I'm waiting till corsair comes out with their SSDs, I would like to have the function of SSD caching when I do buy one. Is there any disadvantage of the z68 over the p67?
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    May 25, 2011 12:08:50 AM

    Proximon said:
    I lose track of which link I provided for whom. This article from the front page should clear up some confusion:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card-...


    Good link, but still don't know which card to go with :(  Still leaning towards a single card....

    Ordered a few parts a second ago:
  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM - $64.99
  • Lite-On CD / DVD Burner - $19.99
  • G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $79.99 (Shell Shocker - ORDER SOON IF YOU WANT ONE)
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    June 1, 2011 4:03:40 AM

    I'd go the P8Z68-V PRO board over the GA-Z68X-UD5-B3 as the Pro has had nothing but good reviews where the gigabyte reviews seem to say more money and less functionality. see link below...plus they seem to be getting very good overclocking results for the PRO

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Gigabyte-Z68X-UD...
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