Looking for advice on a new motherboard please

[whiskeydiet]

Hi. I just found out after trying everything that my motherboard is shot. Here's my situation: I have a p6210y computer, which can be seen here. (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01859864&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=4006020)

I have upgraded the power supply and video card so that this is my current set up.

Motherboard (broken) M2N78-LA Violet. Processor Socket is AM2+, pci-ex16 for my vid card, and 4 ddr2 ram slots

Processor - AMD Athlon 2 620 quad core. AM3 Socket, 4000 mhz HT3

Has 4x2gb ddr2 ram

HD4670 Video Card pci-e

SATA 640gb Hard Drive

Antec 620w power supply.


So basically i need to find a motherboard that will let me use all these things listed, except i know the ram will probably have to be ddr3 with a new mobo which is ok. Ideally i would like to keep the same case as well so finding a motherboard that is the same size as my current would be the best situation. I am looking for any advice here as i know a bit about this but not as much as people here. Trying to find one that will take my cpu, ps, hd, and video card is a little challenging for me. I also can't figure out why certain motherboards are so much more expensive than others.

The only stressful thing my computer does is some low-medium graphics gaming (such as starcraft 2) if that matters.

I would be very appreciative of any tips or advice on this. Thank you!

edit: i found out the mobo is 9.6 in x 9.6 in.

 

[itzdanielp]

All of these will work, but unfortunately they are all DDR3 RAM.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007625%20600007943&IsNodeId=1&name=AM3#

 

[whiskeydiet]

thanks - i am still confused about which to pick... I see some for $45 and some for $129 and just can't figure out the difference.. Is it RAM speed? They all seem to be AM3 and 240 pin. Maybe max amount of RAM? That is the hardest thing for me to figure. I know the 129 must be a lot better than the 45 dollar one, but i just can't seem to see the benefit.

 

[itzdanielp]

The difference is the chipset. The more expensive ones are newer, and designed to support newer generations of CPU's and different options such as SLI or Higher speed RAM.

If you just want a replacement for the one you have, I would suggest one in the 70 dollar range.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130591
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131657

 

[whiskeydiet]

How can i tell if the motherboard can support a certain processor or not? Is it as simple as AM3 or AM2?

 

[spankmon]

For an inexpensive board that will use you existing components, you might be interested in this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157274

The only downside I can see is that it will use only 2 of your four ram modules, halving your available ram from 8gb to 4gb. For the usage you describe, I doubt you would notice any difference

 

[itzdanielp]

How can i tell if the motherboard can support a certain processor or not? Is it as simple as AM3 or AM2?

It pretty much is as simple as that. It is possible that early boards of that socket *might* not support a later CPU of that socket, but there are always BIOS updates to keep compatibility.

 

[whiskeydiet]

I should probably say that my next upgrade farther in the future would be to get a newer processor. So i suppose since i am buying a new mobo i'd like it to have the capability to handle a better processor than i am currently using as well. Would that be just getting an AM3 and maybe having to update the bios later like Itzdanielp said? THanks again for all your responses. They have been very helpful

 

[itzdanielp]

AM2+ will work in AM3, AM3 will work in AM3+, but unfortunately the reverse is not true... AM3+ will not work in AM3.

So... if you are looking to upgrade (I'm assuming along the AMD path) in the future, I am assuming you would go for a bulldozer (or newer) which is AM3+

Which unfortunately means there is no easy upgrade path. You get a board that supports your current CPU, then upgrade both later. Or you upgrade both now.

The other option you have is an AM3 board, which will support your old chip, and a Phenom II chip in the future, but those are starting to get phased out a bit.

 

[whiskeydiet]

I guess i will just go with a cheaper board that will make my current set up work, and then worry about upgrading later. I could be a while before i do any more upgrades anyways. Thanks!

 

[whiskeydiet]

Ok, i decided to get this motherboard. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131657

My question is when buying 1333mhz ddr3 ram for it, does it matter whether it is pc310600, 10660, or 10666?? I can't fine on the mother board page where it says which one of those it is. (if it matters) I just says that it takes DDR3 1866(O.C.)/1333/1066 and nothing else. Thanks again!

 

[itzdanielp]

I would suggest one of these kits for RAM.

4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275

8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104231

 

[whiskeydiet]

Thanks for all the help. my mother board and ram is on its way. Now if only i didn't have to rebuy windows 7 i'd be pretty happy... I feel like it is so dumb that you lose it if you switch motherboards. Especially when they put a crappy motherboard in the computer they sold me. Oh well i guess.. Either way, thanks everyone who helped.

 

[itzdanielp]

Yeah Microsoft is pretty bad in that way.

and I can't say this, but I would suggest trying to re-install windows before purchasing it again. But it is against microsofts terms

 

[whiskeydiet]

oh i wish i could try that but my computer didn't come with a reinstall disc unfortunately. Looks like i might just be screwed in regards to an operating system.

 

[itzdanielp]

Ah, yes.. It is annoying how manufacturers do that nowadays.