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May 20, 2011 9:43:53 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: some time in june

Budget Range: $0-$700 ($700 is pushing it though) Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing, work

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, amazon.com.... though open to other reputable sites

Country of Origin: i live in the U.S.

Parts Preferences: whatever has the most for the least amount of $ and I'm going to uses windows 7

Overclocking: Maybe (but not necessary)

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: at least 1080

Additional Comments: the quieter the better, at least 1tb hdd (nice to have 2), at least 3 gb memory... i would like to make it for as little as possible and yet still play games like:civ and total war series, bf2 +bfbc2 (and eventually bf3), mine craft, crysis, and others but that should give a good idea.
and i would like to have an easily upgradeable setup so it will be a long time before i need to start anew, basically i would like to upgrade parts as i get more "scratch."
....of course the budget dominates all.

also what are some hidden cost in building a pc

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these are the parts i have already looked up-

cpu-
Phenom II X4 840
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
Core i5-2300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
Core i3-2100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

motherboard-
ASUS P8H67-M PRO/CSM (REV 3.0)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3 memory slots preferred

Memory-
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD-
SAMSUNG HD103SJ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
Seagate ST31000528AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-
SeaSonic USA M12II 520 Bronze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
Antec EA-380D Green
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case-
Rosewill CHALLENGER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
Antec Three Hundred Illusion
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 20, 2011 10:31:01 PM

thanks... do you know of a less expensive graphics card that would still work
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May 20, 2011 10:33:04 PM

either a HD 6850 1GB or GTX 460 1GB
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May 20, 2011 10:42:33 PM

thanks... i suppose that with the g-card being the most important part in a gaming rig i should allow for as much as possible.
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May 20, 2011 10:54:34 PM

yep it imporatant to buy the best card you can buy if it means stepping down to less inspensive processor like the i3
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 20, 2011 11:24:11 PM

Since you are buying in june, it's kind of useless to look for parts, mainly because amd releases there new stuff june 6 and they always dominate the low budget builds. You have a good idea of what you can get;wait closer to your buy date to look for specific parts.
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May 20, 2011 11:31:51 PM

@k1114... true true... though right now I'm reaching out to the community so i will have a better idea of what to get when the time comes...right now I'm somewhat lost in the vast sea of computer parts.
also nice avatar.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 20, 2011 11:35:40 PM

These parts can all be found on Newegg:
CPU: $225 i5-2500K
Mobo: $130 Gigabyte Z68 8x/8x on PCI-e lanes
Graphics: $190 Galaxy GTX 560Ti
PSU: $74 Corsair TX750 V2
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=12609...
RAM: $48 Geil 4GB (2x2GB) 1600CL8 DDR3
Case: $40 Thermaltake V4
HDD: $55 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (wait for Newegg deal)
DVD: Use old one

TOTAL: $762

This build makes no compromises and is totally awesome. In order to get this down in your budget, you can use the same coupons to get the Corsair TX650 V2 for $65 (might handle two GTX 560Ti's...maybe), Find 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 on sale w/rebate for $25, Find a decent case with free shipping for $30, Get the $125 mATX version of the Gigabyte Z68 motherboard, or use an old HDD until you can afford a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB.

If you do most of those, you'll get this under $700. If you just switch to a cheap H61 mobo and i3-2100 (or better, i5-2300) with the same other parts (although you'll only need a 500W PSU), you'll get it down to $600. Keep in mind that if you get a single PCI-e slot motherboard you'll need a high end graphics card to go with it because there will be no SLI/CF down the line.

PSU: Stick to Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, or XFX unless you've got a stellar review (see jonnyguru.com for examples) for something else. Check here to see how much power you need:http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
Use 15% capacitor aging.
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May 20, 2011 11:36:08 PM

the only thing i would consider is bulldozer and it gonna start at $190 for a quad core. LLano start at $70 for Dual Core up to Quad Core for 110,130,150,170 the 150 and 170 has 400 stream processor the other has 320 stream porcessors and dual core only have 160 stream processors

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=...
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 20, 2011 11:54:20 PM

I would personally wait 1 month for Bulldozer. One guarantee about it is that it will really drive prices down, regardless of its performance.
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May 21, 2011 12:11:29 AM

good stuff only thing is i still need to reserve about a $100 for os
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May 21, 2011 12:11:59 AM

i hate being a broke a** college student
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 12:55:16 AM

If you're a "broke a** college student", how do those Windows 7 discounts for students work? A lot of colleges (especially engineering kinda stuff) have free copies of Windows. Ask your friends if they know of anything your school offers.

DO NOT get the i3-540. You want a 2nd generation i3/i5 socket 1155, not first generation socket 1156.

If you want to cut costs, take some of the suggestions I made above like getting an i5-2300/i3-2100.

If you're not getting a "K" series CPU, then you may as well just get a cheap H61 motherboard (versus Z68 or P67). If you can only afford $600, I highly recommend you wait one month and you'll probably be able to get all this stuff for under $700.

I do think the PSU is a very good deal and I'd get the TX750 V2 now IF you're planning on getting an SLI capable motherboard (the Gigabyte Z68 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ).
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May 21, 2011 1:29:17 AM

yeah my college offers super cheap upgrades for windows but thats it.

yeah, i wasnt paying attention to that, thanks
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May 21, 2011 1:31:32 AM

i'd like to bite the bullet and get an up to date motherboard (latest cpu socket, and usb 3.0 and so on) so i can upgrade stuff in the future with out buying a new mobo.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 2:07:08 AM

Go for sandy bridge. Here's a recommendation
DVD Burner 19.99 $

Case 49.99 $

HDD 64.99 $

Graphic Card 197.99 $ with 20 $ mail-in-rebate

Power Supply 39.99 $ with 10$ mail-rebate

RAM 49.99 $ . 1.5 volts perfect for sandy bridge

MOBO 88.89 $

CPU: for it you have two choice i3 2100 or if you can stretch higher i5-2400

About PSU : This power supply is decent with the above config. Here's a proof 6870 power consumption. However if you want higher wattage, here's another Antec

Here's a screenshot with base config:


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May 21, 2011 2:39:32 AM

thanks, yeah I'm thinking that with that Antec costing only a little more i might go with it just to be on the safe side (because i plan on upgrading stuff and adding more HDD as time goes on)
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May 21, 2011 3:07:02 AM

i need to buy windows 7 because my school only offers upgrades, not the os itself.
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May 21, 2011 10:57:24 AM

dalauder said:
$190 GTX 560Ti (after $40 rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Good choice not to go with the Cooler Master PSU.


Oh nice. The 560Ti isn't worth it imo at its normal price range but a deal like this changes things altho I wouldn't personally go with that brand.
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May 21, 2011 11:57:38 AM

gametstr said:
Oh nice. The 560Ti isn't worth it imo at its normal price range but a deal like this changes things altho I wouldn't personally go with that brand.


what would you recommend.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 12:01:16 PM

I don't like Galaxy, but that's mostly because 4myrebates.com never gave me a BIG rebate with them. That said, I'd try it again at this price or order the $185 ASUS Open Box w/ three year warranty.
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May 21, 2011 12:09:39 PM

the more i think about it i really want to splurge on a nice g card even if it means skimping on other parts or (deep breath in horror) going a bit over budget, cuz not only do i want to use the comp to game but i also really like to use multiple monitors
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May 21, 2011 1:02:48 PM

Well if I can afford it I wouldn't go with anything but a 6950 2GB for high resolution multi monitor setup.
or a 570 if u can go that higher?
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May 21, 2011 2:01:59 PM

also should i go for a oem cpu and get a water cool setup...or would that be over kill/ budget stupid?
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May 21, 2011 3:22:13 PM

also might it be better to buy two gpu's (around $100 each) and have dual cards instead of one, or would it just be better to get one gpu (at around $200).
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May 21, 2011 3:40:42 PM

Definitely budget stupid to go for a water cooling setup. Just get a good air cooler.
like the CM hyper 212+ or Skythe mugen 2

I 'd go with a single GPU solution. at 200$ the new GTX 560 / HD 6870 are good cards.
If u can push the budget a little check this out for 233$ AR.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 21, 2011 5:52:40 PM

i would love to pimp the gpu but i'm also budgeting for a server build... so im having to balance the budget a bit
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May 21, 2011 6:47:06 PM

These are the parts that I currently have lined up, any suggestions?

Case: $50
Antec's VSK-2000 Cost-Efficient Mid-Tower Case
http://www.amazon.com/Antecs-VSK-2000-Cost-Efficient-Mi...

PSU: $75
Corsair CMPSU-650TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo: $125
ASUS P8H67-M PRO/CSM LGA 1155
http://www.amazon.com/P8H67-M-PRO-CSM-REV-3-0/dp/B004Q7...

CPU: $125
Core i3-2100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: $35
Patriot Memory 'Sector 5' G Series 4GB
http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-240-Pin-PC3-10666-9-9-9-2...

HDD: $65
SAMSUNG HD103SJ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive: $20
SAMSUNG SH-222AB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: $180
Sapphire Tech 100314-2SR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: $30
Windows 7 professional
http://www.microsoft.com/student/e [...] fault.aspx

Total: $705
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May 21, 2011 7:18:18 PM

Looking good.
Except the case. Just get the antec 300 illusion. u could use the extra fans for better cooling. (u are using stock CPU cooler.)
Also for a build like this u dont really need a PSU bigger than a nice 450w unit. Let me see if I can find u a good one. Never mind stick to the corsair. Cant find any good ones cheap enough to justify going so low on wattage. that 650 should give u enough room for upgrades
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May 21, 2011 7:56:49 PM

thanks for the help.
yeah i wanted to find a cheaper power supply but like you said there arent any to justify the down grade.
thats a good case.. though one nice thing about the Antec's VSK-2000 is that the psu is on top instead of the bottom...at least i think it would help the mobo. your probably right though.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 11:47:59 PM

Case: $55 Antec 300 Illusion. Bottom mounted PSUs are better actually. That way the case can vent on the top to let heat out (where heat naturally rises). If you've missed the deal on the 300 Illusion, get the Thermaltake V4. It's cheaper and better (bottom mounted PSU, black interior).

PSU: $40 OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
If the Corsair TX650 V2 is very good, but if it's not still on sale for $64, it's not really a special deal anymore. This particular OCZ is very good: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/OCZ-StealthXStre...

Mobo: $130 This Gigabyte Z68 will allow upgrade to a much better CPU if you decide to down the line and is full ATX for $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: $225 i5-2500K

RAM: $25 1333CL9 Patriot http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=u1260993...
This is the same speed (1333) and latency CL9 as the other stuff. I prefer 1600CL9, but if you can't afford the $48 Geil 1600CL8, then you may as well go cheap.

DVD: $20

GPU: $190 Galaxy GTX 560Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: $30 Windows 7

TOTAL: $715

This Computer is MUCH MUCH better than the one on your list above. The i5-2500K often performs much better in games than the i3-2100
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...
And the i5-2500K would appear at the top of all these charts if overclocked.

Also the GTX 560Ti is much faster than the 6870, especially with NVidia's newest drivers (faster than most benchmarks you find will indicate). And it overclocks like 20%, which is pretty amazing.

This computer is so close in price to the inferior build you proposed that I don't think it can be passed up. I, personally, would buy the Corsair TX750 V2 for $74 if you can still find it for that because it can handle GTX 560Ti's in SLi and was a great price.
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May 22, 2011 2:26:07 AM

hmm the ocz is a good deal.. and as a reviewer suggested i guess i could get some Molex to sata power adapters to makeup for it only having 3 sata connections.
good find. I went ahead and snagged one.

also do you know of any decent gpu's for about $50, i want to use one in my server build.
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May 22, 2011 2:55:24 AM

If you want a good gaming system get a PS3 it had the world's FIRST 6 core CPU but ht eGPU is like a geforce 7900 gs.
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May 22, 2011 3:37:00 AM

lol yeah i already have 2 ps3's, i'm actually thinking about selling one to help fund this build
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 22, 2011 3:38:24 AM

Server? It should work just fine with integrated graphics. If you're putting together a server, you should probably just start a whole new thread on that. You'll find more advice from people who know more about servers than me.

Cheap graphics though? Anything will do. You could post in the classifieds section of this forum.

EDIT: And I pretty much ignored that comment about getting a PS3. A PS3 is only worth it if you NEED L.A. Noire.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 22, 2011 7:47:12 PM

@Addison

You hopped in this thread really late. Please scroll up and read what we're talking about because you're not contributing helpful input. It's a Radeon 6870 or GTX 560Ti on the table, which wipe the floor with a PS3, 9800GT, or 5670. And a 9800GT doesn't max out MW2 on most resolutions. Maybe if you window it.

The thread is nearly closed because the guy's already buying parts.
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May 22, 2011 7:59:48 PM

That was my old card and I played on a high res just fine.
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