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May 21, 2011 8:16:02 PM

Hey all, I'm recent and have never posted about a system. So now it is time. First, Kudos to Tom'sHardware and all y'all around these forums because I have never been smart enough to figure out how to pick the right stuff for a new gaming rig. This place is THE BEST and Yous Folks are THE BEST too.

Now, ABOB (a bit of background). I let the techies do the tech stuff, so my first PC was put together in a shop by a friend of mine back in 2000. Intel P4 2GHZ, 512 MB RAM yada, yada, yada. Had a decent GPU but don't remember what it, was NVidia something.

The dog dander build up finally stopped the GPU fan so the video card smoked. Off to get another card and AGP was all I could pick from but the mobo didn't have a slot. PCI only, so I had to get a new mobo too. This is how it turned out, been running since 2005 and still is.

Current Machine:

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702

Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
Motherboard Name Asus P4C800-E Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP Pro, 1 WiFi, 4 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Canterwood i875P
System Memory 2048 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/23/04)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 6200 (256 MB)
Monitor Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] (K3981CA000891)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Asus P4C800/P4P800)

Storage:
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive Hitachi HDS721616PLA380
Optical Drive AOPEN DVD1648/AAP (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-811S
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Here's where the kudos come in... After spending about a month looking around here plus discussing a new build with my shop and some back and forth I gave them a short list with a couple of ideas about what I was looking for and the hardware budget I had to stick to.
My suggested starting point:

700.00 HARDWARE BUDGET + LABOR + OS cost and tax
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Bits and Pieces gleaned from Tom's Harware and Forums
Quote:

Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition (on par w i5-760 but way cheaper)
Clock Speed: 3.2 GHz Socket: AM3 platform
O/C to 3.5 = BIOS multiplier change from 16x to 18x
$150.00 NEWEGG

GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
ATX AMD Motherboard
$140 NEWEGG

GigaByte GV-R577SO-1GD Radeon HD 5770 Graphics Card - 900 MHz Core
1 GB GDDR5 SDRAM - PCI Express 2.1
$150 NEWEGG

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBR
$50 (x2 for 8GB)

HDD Seagate ST31000524AS
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Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge
Clock Speed: 3.3 GHz, Socket: LGA 1155 platform Intel H67 chipset
Runs cooler than the Phenom II x4 955
$130.00

The budget Core i3-2100 is a surprisingly capable force in the gaming
arena, able to beat powerful quad-core CPUs that have traditionally
dominated this price segment.

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
ATX Intel Motherboard
$180 (USB 2.X mobos are cheaper)

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
$100

No GPU specified ??? Duh!
HDD Seagate ST31000524AS
CPUs...
For folks considering a full upgrade, the Socket AM3 and LGA 1155
platforms are better choices.

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The following is the setup I said GO on... Just to let you know, again I say thanks. Please feel free to remark about anything and if the results are good it's because of you all and Tom's and if something is a bit off, it's because I didn't, and still don't apparently, understand some techie thing that got by me. I live to learn, even at 65 years old.
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CPU AMD PHENOM II 955 AM3 QUAD CORE 3.2 8MB
GPU GIGABYTE GV-R5770 1024 GB
MOBO GIGABYTE AM3 4D3 2PCIE 2P SVGL 6SR XFR Model # GA-890GPA-UD3H
SIMM 4GB DDR-3 1333 MHZ SUPER TALENT MEMORY
HDD WD 500GB SE SATA 7200 RPM 16MB HARD DRIVE
DVD/CD SONY 24X16X24X8 DVDRW SATA

AZIO 3.5" MED READER-INT-USB-BLACK
COOLER MASTER MID TOWER CASE WITH 420WT POWER SUPPLY 24-20 F-USB

MICROSOFT WIN 7 HOME PREMIUM 64BIT SP1

Build, Test and Install OS, Sales Tax = $983.50

Glad to be a small part of the community and to share.

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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 8:23:23 PM

Is that the build you decided on or you are wanting to know to pull the trigger? From a gaming perspective you'd be better off with the i3 2100 and beefing up the gpu. If that's the build it's not the best you could have done for one grand but it will play current games ok for the most part.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 8:26:23 PM

I suggest you check out my build guide, and upgrade the i3 2100 to an i5 2400.

To comment on your build you paid for. You were ripped, even CyberPower and iBuyPower offer better deals than that.
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May 21, 2011 9:11:55 PM

Appreciate the feedback. I submitted the i3-2100 as an option, they didn't go there. I know the AMD is a good chip. I am concerned that I'm buying two year old tech, but my money is real tight AND I wanted an upgrade path. The shop isn't really a game 'chine builders paradise and I don't have any credit cards so online buying is not on the table. I can upgrade easier than I can buy outright is maybe my best response back to you.
Also I was a little nervous about CyberPower after reading a bunch of reviews (lot's of bad among the good ones) and I wasn't aware of iBuyPower. That's partly why I came to Tom's to learn what those other places wouldn't teach me.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 9:21:52 PM

If you don't shop online, there isn't much you can do other than shopping at fry's or microcenter to save a bit. There is also no guarantee that your motherboard will support bulldozer cpus causing a potential lack of upgrade path.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 21, 2011 11:40:20 PM

^+1

Gigabyte claims they will have AM3+ support so your motherboard will be good. But for the price premium, they basically charged you $200 for labor. That system is only worth like $550 or $600.

Plus your upgrade path is shot because the PSU coming with the system is garbage so no graphical room there and the CPU is kind of iffy at this point.
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June 4, 2011 2:00:33 AM

Yes, the final result was $150 for labor including Win7 OS installed. They upgraded the PSU to 550W and added a extra cooling fan to the case.

It is home and up and running and it is lightyears ahead of the old box. I added a new monitor, HP 2311x, which rated pretty well. I wanted the HP2511x but couldn't get the deal I was after.

Thanks y'all

There is no 'best answer to this thread 'cause I got taken to the woodshed to much for not building outside my price limitations and for being a noob at the forum and a non techie in general.
Next time will be different I suspect.
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June 4, 2011 2:02:28 AM

Best answer selected by TexasVet65.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
June 4, 2011 2:27:22 AM

No problem, but uh..... What PSU did they upgrade exactly?
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