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May 22, 2011 7:29:30 AM

It has been 3 years, since I built my last computer. I will try to get the same lifespan on this new rig. I have some questions about my parts list. I will also be using my Samsung monitor as my secondary monitor (Dual display for TV, watching movies while trying to do school work etc.. I will not use the Samsung to game, only my new ASUS 25’ monitor. I will be purchasing my products from Newegg and Amazon (Hopefully more Amazon for the free 2-day shipping) My purposed new rig is linked with product pages from Newegg and Amazon.

Budget Range – Would like to keep under $3,000 USD. I just want to make smart decisions.

Location - USA

System Usage from Most to Least Important:

Play new games (Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3)
Encode movies
Rip/Burn Blu-ray and DVD’s
Watch Blu-Ray/DVD Movies
Will try to maximize with Overclocking (Nothing crazy)

Approximate Purchase Date:

A couple of weeks

SLI or Crossfire:

Probably - In the future(around Christmas)

Parts Not Required:

Keyboard
Extra Hard drive space - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb (I have 4 of these)

Current Rig (3 Years Old)

Mobo – Asus P5W DH Deluxe
CPU – Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz : Running at 2.30
GPU - EVGA 320-P2-N817-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3
Memory - Patriot Extreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) & Another set of name brand memory (2 x 1GB)
Monitor - SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb (I have 4 of these)
Keyboard – Microsoft Sidewinder X6
Mouse – Logitech G5
PSU – OCZ 600w


Purposed NEW Rig

Case - Cooler Master HAF X Full Tower w/ SuperSpeed USB 3.0 w/ Window w/ Black Interior ATX Case (RC-942-KKN1) - $198.63
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SuperSpeed-Interior...

Mobo – ASUS LGA 1155 SATA 6Gbps USB 3.0 Supported Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2400 Motherboards P8Z68-V PRO - $209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU – Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K - $314.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - EVGA DS Superclocked 015-P3-1587-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB - $474.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or

EVGA 03G-P3-1584-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072MB - $589.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor – ASUS VE258Q Black 25" HDMI LED - $259.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive / SSD – OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition VTX3MI-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - $289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse – Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Gaming Mouse for PC - $75.99
http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-T-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B003CP...

PSU - OCZ Technology ZX Series 850W Power Supply - $169.00 (After Rebate)
http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-850W-Power-Supply/...

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit 1-Pack - OEM - $139.99

CPU Heatsink - Noctua 6 NH-D14 - $80.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Blu-Ray Burner - LITE-ON Blu-ray Burner with 3D Playback SATA iHBS212 - $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Thermal Paste - Arctic Silver 5- $6.50
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-5-Thermal-Compound/...

Speakers

No Idea. Would like 5.1. I have a older set, that i might use. Any suggestions?


Questions

1.) Is the extra 1.5GB worth it on the GPU front? I like to run many apps at once. I also do a good amount for ripping/encoding

2.) Since the ASUS monitor is new and I have not seen any reviews, by looking at the specs does it look like it would be good for gaming and movie watching?

3.) Will 850W be enough for this system? I would like to add another GPU around Christmas and make it an SLI rig. Also remember the 4 WD Black hard drives from current rig

4.) Is the Noctua NH-D14 complete overkill?

5.) Is Artic Silver 5 still the best stuff?

6.) Should I add a sound card? When I built my last rig, onboard sound sucked. Is it still awful? If I should add a sound card.
Which one? *I might add another GPU around X-Mas (Info for space considerations on motherboard)

7.) Is the amount of RAM overkill for multi-tasking and future games and apps?

8.) Anything i might be missing?


Thanks for all the help. Any advice or ideas is appreciated
Robert
May 22, 2011 8:06:01 AM

That looks pretty good if you ask me. The ram might be overkill (I'm sure for gaming it definitely is), but if you do any HD video editing it might come in handy.

As far as speakers I would probably keep your older set. All new PC speakers are complete garbage compared to what they used to sell back in the days. I've got an old 2.1 Altec Lansing that blows away most of the tin cans they sell these days. Personally, if sound is important to you don't even bother with PC speakers. Get a real system with a good sound card to match. I've thought a lot about this myself but haven't done so yet, but definitely is an upgrade I'd like to do.

Something like this should sound pretty f-ing nice: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Denon+-+650W+5.1-Ch.+3D+Pass+Through+A/V+Home+Theater+Receiver/1519204.p?id=1218266962803&skuId=1519204

You could always spend a lot more when it comes to sound, but even that setup would definitely be way better than any PC speakers currently on the market.
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May 22, 2011 10:52:40 AM

Welcome to the forum. Some suggestions... Drop the 2600K for a 2500K, I assure you there is no difference for your uses. If you're only using that one monitor to game on then a single 580 is a massive amount of GPU power, just get the 1.5GB one if any. Don't spend $200 on RAM, you don't need 8GB, much less 16. Vertex 3, top of the line, but reasonable I suppose. PSU, no complaints there. W7 Professional, why not just Home Premium? You won't need that Artic TIM.
1. The VRAM won't affect multitasking, only gaming at resolutions above 1080p.
2. Seems fine to me.
3. Yes
4. No, but I prefer the Xigmatek Aegir
5. Yes, but the the HSF comes with bundled TIM, unless you're doing a very high overclock it won't matter
6. It sounds fine to me, but if yours was not acceptable three years ago, I'd probably go for a sound card - how high end are your speakers/headphones?
7. Yes
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May 22, 2011 12:55:28 PM

If you are doing your video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS 5.5 definitely keep the 2600K & 16GB of RAM, it will fully make use of it. As soon as some people see the work "gaming" they get tunnel vision and nothing else registers to them. I fully agree with the 2500K being more than enough for a gaming rig but the 2600K is the better choice for a encoding machine and 16GB of RAM is not over kill for that application.
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May 22, 2011 3:15:02 PM

^+1. also you have a big enough ssd you wont use the extras z68 has to offer like ssd caching just get a asrock p67 extreme4 or asus p8p67 pro. also ati cards give a better picture for movies look into getting 2 6950's 1gb and put them in cf. total price around 450$ for those cards. or get one 6970 and upgrade it later
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May 22, 2011 9:17:00 PM

I was looking at some IPS monitors and have found a couple which i think might work

HP Smart Buy ZR24w 24-inch S-IPS Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.macmall.com/p/6110671

Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23"
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c...

Would these be a lot better than the ASUS i picked out?
Would it be okay for gaming and Blu-Ray? (Response-Time)

Also i looked at some other PSU options. I got some feedback about using OCZ as my PSU. For a little bit more i can get this

SilverStone ATX12V/EPS12V 1200W 80+ Gold PFC Power Supply ST1200-G
http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-ATX12V-EPS12V-Supply-...

Any thoughts?


Thanks
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May 22, 2011 11:15:24 PM

1foxracing said:
If you are doing your video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS 5.5 definitely keep the 2600K & 16GB of RAM, it will fully make use of it. As soon as some people see the work "gaming" they get tunnel vision and nothing else registers to them. I fully agree with the 2500K being more than enough for a gaming rig but the 2600K is the better choice for a encoding machine and 16GB of RAM is not over kill for that application.


Not quite, although it was 3AM ;) . OP needs a Z68 board (that includes quick sync), also look at his current build, then look at his budget (not the $, but where it says "I just want to make smart decisions"). Now, my conclusion from this is that he doesn't need or want to increase his RAM from two mismatched sets of 1GB to 16GB, get the world's fastest processor, and also that he doesn't do extremely hardcore video work (hence, overkill).

Edit: @OP, just curious, did someone say the OCZ was not good?
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May 22, 2011 11:35:39 PM

jbakerlent said:
Not quite, although it was 3AM ;) . OP needs a Z68 board (that includes quick sync), also look at his current build, then look at his budget (not the $, but where it says "I just want to make smart decisions"). Now, my conclusion from this is that he doesn't need or want to increase his RAM from two mismatched sets of 1GB to 16GB, get the world's fastest processor, and also that he doesn't do extremely hardcore video work (hence, overkill).

Edit: @OP, just curious, did someone say the OCZ was not good?


I posted on some other forums and some people mentioned stuff about OCZ. Nothing really bad, but just negative feelings. In my last rig i had OCZ and it went bad after 2 years of use. Not terribly bad, but i always kept that in mind.

With the PSU, I was on the fence about the original selection. I was looking at Silverstone, because of the high marks they always seem to get. i saw the 1200 on Amazon for $250.00 and that seemed like a good deal. Hence the switch.

The reason for 16GB stemmed from seeing 12GB around $140-150. I then looked at the G.Skill and it showed 16GB at $180. For the extra $30, it seemed like a good investment.

I like 2600K for the encoding performance and potential overclocking ability. I won't be doing hardcore anything, but i want the computer to handle these tasks for a couple years. I realize performance will decrease the longer i have the products. I just want the decrease to be a little spike, not a huge jump.
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May 23, 2011 12:00:53 AM

jbakerlent said:
Ah I see, Just to clear up any misconceptions, it's an excellent unit
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Yes, for performance you're obviously not going to be missing out on much, and they're all great parts, I just wanted to emphasize that this is a very high end build.


Thanks for link to the review

A mis-communication with my parents revealed i won't be getting the computer til mid-summer(end of June/July) anyway. I will keep all the information learned in mind while making the final decision in the summer.

Look forward to bringing a more updated version of potential specs during that time.

Thanks again
Robert
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