Best upgrade from hd 5850

[megagabobe1]

sup guys, what would be a nice upgrade from a hd5850 to play at 1680x1050, and notice a framerates improvement, dont tell me the hd 6990 haha, and be a bit conscious with the money, one more thing, i dont like multi gpu setups, prefer to have the best single gpu performance




thx guys any comment will be appreciated

 

[Embra]

Give us more info ... what PSU?? etc...

At your present resolution, the 5850 should do quite nicely. Are you planning to upgrade your monitor? Have you OCed your GPU?

What is your budget?

 

[shrkbay]

6870 would be good or GTX560 or 6950

 

[johnnyq8]

well you dont need to upgrade your 5850 is almost 5870 but if you insist go with HD 6970 or 6950 and unlock it to 6970 but i reccomend you to go with 6970 or change to nvidia and go with GTX 570 but it depends on your rig can your PSU handle this upgrade or can your cpu handle it withought bottlnecking

 

[shrkbay]

^ nope 6870 is faster, 5870 is faster than 6870

 

[shrkbay]

yeah, but you can OC 6870 to ~1100 core... + 68xx are better in tesselation than 58xx..

quote from hardware canucks :
When looking at things from a purely numerical perspective, the HD 6870 is quite obviously a product to be reckoned with. It has the ability to significantly outdistance the GTX 460 1GB at nearly every single resolution and IQ setting we used which came as a complete shock considering its price hovers around the $240 mark. When compared to the HD 5850, the Barts XT is still a clear winner; particularly in DX11 games like Lost Planet 2 where tessellation speed is essential. Due to its high clock speeds, on-die communication improvements and tweaked tessellation performance, the HD 6870 can even run with the HD 5870 and GTX 470 in some situations."

- clearly says that HD 6870 is better, but 5850 has power to be better and sometimes it is...

 

[shrkbay]

+ i've heard that OCing 5850 to 900 core is hard , it'll go like 850

 

[shrkbay]

OK

 

[megagabobe1]

Give us more info ... what PSU?? etc...

At your present resolution, the 5850 should do quite nicely. Are you planning to upgrade your monitor? Have you OCed your GPU?

What is your budget?

i got a corsair tx650w psu, my computer right now has a 3.4ghz core 2 duo, i was just asking because a quad core pc i built is coming and with the core 2 duo i did not had the fps i was expecting, do u think i will get better fps by just installing the video card with the quad core? the pc will have a phenom ii x4, and the guy that is bringing the computer will give it to me with the cpu at 3.8ghz,and will have ddr3 ram at 1333 with 8-8-8-24 timings.

if i will get better performance with the new setup i might not need to upgrade the gpu

 

[megagabobe1]

6870 would be good or GTX560 or 6950

the 6870 has a performance increase that is not noticeable while gaming

 

[megagabobe1]

well you dont need to upgrade your 5850 is almost 5870 but if you insist go with HD 6970 or 6950 and unlock it to 6970 but i reccomend you to go with 6970 or change to nvidia and go with GTX 570 but it depends on your rig can your PSU handle this upgrade or can your cpu handle it withought bottlnecking

got a corsair tx650w, i think it can handle any single card

 

[megagabobe1]

6870 is faster because it's clocked at 900 core where the 5850 is only clocked at 725 core. Overclocking the 5850 to 900c will negate that advantage as the 5850 has more shaders

the max oc i can make is the one of a black edition model, is a non reference model

 

[megagabobe1]

will i notice a good increase of performance when moving to the 3.8ghz quad core?

 

[megagabobe1]

Center fan with no volt control? Yeah i've heard of some shitty overclocking with that model. I just got rid of Sapphire reference 5870's and they overclocked to 1100 core at 1.32v

i have the max oc i can put in the CCC

 

[megagabobe1]

CCC sucks bro. Download Afterburner and play around with it. See if you can unlock V control with it and push it higher. It'll be in the "Settings" tab towards the bottom

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

do u think my performance will increase, with the quad core phenom ii x4 at 3.8ghz?

 

[Embra]

do u think my performance will increase, with the quad core phenom ii x4 at 3.8ghz?

Yes you will! As to how much, I would make note of fps you get now and when you put the 5850 into your new build.

Try that before deciding on a new card. Your present monitor is at a resolution that fit the 5850 very well.. You may want to save $$ for a GPU + Monitor upgrade.

 

[megagabobe1]

What do you have now?

core 2 duo e7400 3.4ghz, and im also changing from vista 32 bits to windows 7 64bits

 

[megagabobe1]

Yes you will! As to how much, I would make note of fps you get now and when you put the 5850 into your new build.

Try that before deciding on a new card. Your present monitor is at a resolution that fit the 5850 very well.. You may want to save $$ for a GPU + Monitor upgrade.

my monitor is pretty good actually, is a syncmaster t220hd, and is my room tv too haha

 

[megagabobe1]

Yes you will! As to how much, I would make note of fps you get now and when you put the 5850 into your new build.

Try that before deciding on a new card. Your present monitor is at a resolution that fit the 5850 very well.. You may want to save $$ for a GPU + Monitor upgrade.

im also changing from vista 32 bits to windows 7 64 bits

 

[Derbixrace]

yeah you should change the CPU in order to not bottleneck a better GPU.

but honestly the 5850 should be maxing out most games on 1680x1050 because my 5850 maxes out the most games on 1080p hehe

that dual core might actually bottleneck that 5850, i would say just upgrade to a better CPU.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

+1 i would do the same. upgrade cpu platform to sandy bridge and go quad core +64bit windows + 8gb ram. 5850 is all you need at that resolution any more and your cpu will bottleneck and you will see only minor performance increase. Also, i know you dont like dual gfx card setups because of some compatability issues, but i would totally get another 5850 and xfire it if i were you. Also, before i did any of the above i would overclock the snot out of that vid card. can be overclocked to reach near 5870 performance.

 

[megagabobe1]

yeah you should change the CPU in order to not bottleneck a better GPU.

but honestly the 5850 should be maxing out most games on 1680x1050 because my 5850 maxes out the most games on 1080p hehe

that dual core might actually bottleneck that 5850, i would say just upgrade to a better CPU.

yeah, i will wait to have a better computer with a better cpu and then decide if a gpu upgrade is necessary

 

[megagabobe1]

+1 i would do the same. upgrade cpu platform to sandy bridge and go quad core +64bit windows + 8gb ram. 5850 is all you need at that resolution any more and your cpu will bottleneck and you will see only minor performance increase. Also, i know you dont like dual gfx card setups because of some compatability issues, but i would totally get another 5850 and xfire it if i were you. Also, before i did any of the above i would overclock the snot out of that vid card. can be overclocked to reach near 5870 performance.

well, is a non reference version, so i cant OC much. stuttering in crysis and warhead is casued due to the cpu, the OS, or what? my frames drop significantly when there is a lot happening in the screen, so i guess that is a cpu bottleneck, because on the gpu bench i get 40-45 fps average. is also drops when a lot is rendered in a new area, i think is the cpu, but im not sure

 

[Derbixrace]

its the CPU, i7 2500K+cm hyper 212 plus+MSI P67-GD65+2x2gb 1600mhz RAM and win7 home premium 64-bit should do nicely

then OC the thing to 4.5ghz or more, it wont get any better than that

 

[megagabobe1]

its the CPU, i7 2500K+cm hyper 212 plus+MSI P67-GD65+2x2gb 1600mhz RAM and win7 home premium 64-bit should do nicely

then OC the thing to 4.5ghz or more, it wont get any better than that

but that mobo is not in newegg yet