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Full new 800 pound rig

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May 24, 2011 1:18:05 AM

Hello to you all, Im a complete noob at PC gaming and I am building my first rig. I have been thinking about this set up. Please be gentle... :ange: 

Approximate Purchase Date: Next month

Budget Range: 800 pounds

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Graphic design, gaming, Digital Art, 3D animation,

Parts Not Required: speakers...

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Not sure, Ebuyer?

Country of Origin: Rep. Ireland

Parts Preferences: Intel, ATI

Overclocking: Maybe in the future

SLI or Crossfire: maybe in the far future

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024, 1440x900 ?

Antec 300 Three Hundred Case
143854 36 in stock £46.77

Asus P8P67-M PRO R3 P67 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard
261052 2 in stock £114.99

Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
251596 142 in stock £162.51

XFX HD 5770 1GB Single Slot Cooler Edition 850MHz Dual DVI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card
239207 16 in stock £86.99

Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory Kit CL9 1.65V
239260 67 in stock £36.78

Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM Caviar Blue
124228 > 100 in stock £34.98

Antec 450W PSU - 120mm Fan VP450 4x SATA 1x PCI-E
245675 100 in stock £29.85

LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black
169683 > 200 in stock £14.99 £14.99

Microsoft Wireless Desktop 3000 - BlueTrack
166189 2034 in stock £29.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English
173791 70 in stock £70.89

HANNS.G HW191D TFT LCD 19" DVI-D Monitor with Speakers
142542 14 in stock £80.00

Cart total inc vat: £708.74

Hope this format is ok? (new to Tom's too)

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May 24, 2011 1:40:22 AM

aznshinobi said:
Why exactly are you getting 2 450w PSUs? Also Please fill this out.

Compatibility-wise, it looks good. But certain areas require some optimization. Before that though, please fill out the link I posted.

Whooooops, pasted the PSU in there twice...
Very sorry, new to this forum, is this ok?
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May 24, 2011 1:52:32 AM

Assuming you will OC and CF in the near 1 year.

i5 2500K £162.51

MSI P67A-G45 £97.72

G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600 £65.03

Samsung F3 1TB £41.79

Asus DirectCu II 560 Ti £180.53

CM Scout + CM Silent Pro 700w £129.99

You have room for it, why not get it, a new monitor.

LG W2240S £91.24

Total: Roughly £769
May 24, 2011 2:05:08 AM

Ok, Im going to re-assess all this. Many thanks, great work.

I might also have to budget for under 700 pounds too. Would the original build I posted be ok for that? I would have to include everything as its a first build (have virtually no pre existing peripherals etc).

But so far this looks great! Im practically drooling...
May 24, 2011 2:17:59 AM

I'd drop the Asus you picked then and get the MSI I showed, it'll perform the same, the MSI will give you more room to work with (ATX vs mATX) plus you'll save some money.
Yeah, 4GB works fine, 8GB was just something if you wanted it.

I'd pay 7 more quid to get the F3 1TB though, 7 more quid for 500GB more and a faster drive, solid buy if ya ask me. As for GPU's concern I'd get the 560 just because it'll last you longer and get a bigger resolution for the future as well. If you want to SLI 560's just be sure to get a 600w at least.
May 24, 2011 2:26:10 AM

You are a legend. I reckon I can stay under the 700 mark now and get EVERYTHING I need. This is priceless, a pat on the back for you!
May 24, 2011 4:33:56 AM

Haha no problem man. Good luck.
May 24, 2011 10:34:38 AM

Oh while Im at it, what do you reckon this baby will do? My rig, not the stone mad one above! :na: 
I mean, what games & settings will I be able to achieve? ( an example or two would do, just so I know what level of excited to be for the next few weeks)

I beat and loved Oblivion and Fallout 3 on xbox so I want to get Skyrim (oooobviously) and would love to try the Call of Duty series and maybe Crysis? Can I expect big things?

They're all new to me so, this will be a good year!

Again, many thanks. ;) 
May 24, 2011 11:46:34 AM

The build Shinobi posted should be able to run pretty much anything with good settings
May 24, 2011 11:06:42 PM

@ 1920x1080, I would expect the 560 Ti OC'd to run Skyrim fine at high settings. Though requirements haven't been released it is hard to say. The COD series is easy stuff for a standard comp. A $60 card (4830) could run MW2 and Black Ops just fine, COD doesn't require much power since it is a strong port meaning they mostly build CODs for the console never using the full potential of PCs.

Crysis has gotten easier to run, though the original still a hard one even on modern comps, the second, Crysis 2, is much easier to run and should run smoothly as my 5850 handles Crysis 2 just fine.

Expect lower settings on games started on the PC, IE BF3 or any game that will go from PC to Console instead.
May 25, 2011 1:25:33 AM

Booo-uurns, unfortunately I cant budget in for the 560, Have to stay around the 700 quid mark now.
Will the 5770 be enough to get me through the current game selection? I have a HUGE backlog of games to get through. [:aford10:7]

My current selection is the same as my original one above only I've replaced the 500gb drive with the suggested 1T, the P8P67 mobo with the suggested MSI P67A and I dont know about the GPU... if I stay with the 5770 I will be at 720 quid but I can manage that.

May 25, 2011 1:38:54 AM

Or this? Sapphire HD 5830 XTREME 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Mini DisplayPort PCI-E

I would need to change to a 500w psu, right?
May 25, 2011 1:44:12 AM

I would suggest the 5830 over the 5770 in a heartbeat. If you can stretch your budget a few pounds, grab a 5850 XTREME. It should only be a bit more, but gives a big increase in performance.
May 25, 2011 1:53:13 AM

5770 should be fine
May 25, 2011 2:12:39 AM

Actually, I might be going mad, but does the 5830 comes in cheaper than the 5770 on Ebuyer?

Sapphire 5830: quickfind code: 265356
XFX 5770: quickfind code: 239207

Is this right?
May 25, 2011 2:40:12 AM

TheRed said:
Actually, I might be going mad, but does the 5830 comes in cheaper than the 5770 on Ebuyer?

Sapphire 5830: quickfind code: 265356
XFX 5770: quickfind code: 239207

Is this right?

You aren't dreaming...... there's only one thing to say. GET ON THAT!
May 25, 2011 2:51:28 AM

Well The 5830 is good, if you can spare on the peripherals and get the 560 Ti I'd do that instead. Way more graphical power that will last. But if not, the 5770 is good enough for your 19" not for anything larger though. Not that it is terrible, just not suited for 1680x1050+ monitors.
June 13, 2011 3:24:54 AM

Ok, so Im constantly keeping an eye on gpus as I wait for the big day to finally order this rig. I'm getting more and more into 3d modelling and animation and Im starting to think I should expand my budget a bit and aim a bit higher with this whole set up. I am here at the moment:

1. Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor

2. MSI P67A-G45 (B3) P67 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

3. Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache

4. Be Quiet 530W Pure Power PSU

5. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium w/SP1 64-bit English

6. Hanns-G HH221DP Full HD TFT LCD 21.5" DVI-D Monitor with Speakers

7. Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 i5 Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-24) 1.65V

8. And I STILL dont know what GPU...

This whole setup (inc. keyb mouse and case) will bring me up to 650 quid

The GTX 560 ti I was considering (Zotac GTX 560Ti 1GB DDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DP out PCI-E Graphics Card With Assassin's Creed BrotherHood Game Coupon) would be 180 pounds and its a little steep. Is it necessary for what I want to do? (3d animation/modeling, digital art, graphic design, gaming) and at the native resolution of this monitor?

Do all these parts fit well? (power consumption, compatibility etc.?)

Sorry for all the questions, Im really enjoying researching this!
June 13, 2011 3:28:11 AM

The XFX HD 6870 1GB is 140 quid. worth saving the money?
June 13, 2011 3:55:21 AM

That Be Quiet PSU is going to power that system very well.
IT's up to you for the card. Either card won't help with what you want to do except gaming. The 560 Ti would be your best bet though with CUDA.
June 13, 2011 4:24:16 AM

Ah, so I could go cheaper with a GPU then? its only for medium gaming. So what do I need to consider for the other applications if the GPU wont help?

Any other things I need to change?

Could you recommend a cheaper GPU for me? Pleeeeease? :) 
June 13, 2011 4:31:48 AM

The next best thing is the 6850. I think you could still go with the 6870 and get an Antec PSU.
June 13, 2011 4:41:45 AM

How about the 6850 which is in at 119 pounds or the GTX 550ti at the same price?
June 13, 2011 4:52:03 AM

6850>460>550 Ti.
The 550 Ti is a ripoff
June 13, 2011 5:54:48 AM

Ok, I think thats the one. Is the PSU ok for this?

And everything else is good?
June 13, 2011 6:22:18 AM

You didn't link a PSU.

All else is good.
June 13, 2011 9:07:22 AM

the same be quiet one?
June 13, 2011 11:31:58 PM

I still don't think the Be Quiet is good enough.
June 13, 2011 11:46:17 PM

But you said earlier it would power it very well? Im guessing you meant to write it would not power it very well. :??: 

Do you have any recommendations? :D 
June 14, 2011 3:17:31 AM

Yeah sorry about the mistype.

The Antec 620w is better, it uses higher quality capacitors for a longer lasting power supply. Also, it allows for future CF/SLI if you wanted to.
June 14, 2011 3:37:55 AM

Sweeeet. Ok final question, CPU cooler? Do I need one and any idea which one will be good enough for little cost as possible? Im already over budget but dont want a fried CPU either).

I probably wont be OCing for a looong time.
June 14, 2011 3:41:15 AM

Hyper 212+ but if you aren't OCing no need for one now. Though the Hyper 212+ is the best budget one, then the Mugen 2 Rev. B
June 16, 2011 4:11:28 AM

Nice one, will post the result when it happens. ( hopefully from this new machine!)

Many thanks AznShinobi, :D 
June 16, 2011 4:37:03 AM

Alright good luck
August 7, 2011 9:14:27 PM

Hey again, well as a final update, I got the machine, put it together with my brother and it worked perfectly, couldnt have gone any better. Have lots of software and games running beautifully and I couldn't be happier. Thanks you guys of the input! Next step, a second 6870!!!!!!!!

P.S. Her name is Blue Rose after the side panel fan. :na: 
August 8, 2011 11:49:03 AM