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March 15, 2011 2:31:16 PM

So i'm not very good with all techy talks, so please make it simple for me.. I'm planning to buy my first 3D Card, i was planning to buy a 4650 128bit but unfortunately they said they dont have a small low profile bracket for that card, so they are offering me xfx 4650 64bit and 2nd option is 5550 128 bit, so i just wanna know which one will be faster, on which i can play some new games like RE5, GTA4, Black Ops, Advance Warfare etc

These are the 2 cards i'm talking about,

ATI HD 4650 PciXpress
XFX-1024MB 64 Bits DDR2


ATI HD 5550 PciXpress
XFX-1024MB 128 Bits DDR3


And thats how my system looks like,
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12705_div...

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP dc73 Blade Workstation Client
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.9GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 994MB RAM
Page File: 1830MB used, 187MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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March 16, 2011 1:21:41 AM

wow..
i think i should take my noob ass, somewhere else..
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March 16, 2011 1:24:42 AM

Hi

All those games you are mentioning are cpu intensive games. They need a quad to run them without problems. That dual core cpu will be knocked down to size I'm afraid
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 1:35:27 AM

The 5550 is too slow to utilize it's higher memory bandwidth, the 4650 is a better choice. You won't be playing those games with 1gb of ram though, and your proccesor is very slow as well. You're better off getting a new PC if you are really interested in gaming.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 2:19:55 AM

with that cpu, your going to be stuck playing games that are a few years old, if you dont mind that. You need to get your ram to at least 3gb, preferably 4gb with windows 7, or you will experience stuttering/loading during games and long loading times, other games will not work at all. If you dont have the money to buy a complete new pc, here is what i would do: Get enough money together to get RAM to at least 3gb, then get a 5570 and you can now play older games well or new games at low resolution (720p) with low detail settings. If you know how to overclock, that cpu can be overclocked to 2.4ghz which is a start, but you really want to get something better CPU. If you need to go that far, you may aswell buy a whole new computer. MAybe look at the reccommended specs of the games you want to play and see what you need. dont look at minimum specs, if you go y minimum, the game will run, but it will run like crap.
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March 17, 2011 2:58:41 PM

Ok thanks for all the help guys but still em confused coz of my low profile bracket thingy most of the cards are coming in 64bit, cept the one i mentioned above 5550.. So is it good to invest in 4650 64bit or 5550 128bit? and yes i will update my RAM and probably my processor too but right now em confused about all that 128 and 64bit stuff..
@iam2thecrowe
I tried to find this one but same, not available in low profile bracket:( 
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2011 10:18:51 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Have you considered one of these? It's a little more expensive than what your looking at but it's a much better card and might actually be worth reusing when you get around to upgrading your whole PC. It's probably the best card you can get that has a chance of running on yoru stock power supply and fitting in your case.

Where are you shopping? Because there are a number of low profile 5570s available and none of them have 64bit ram interfaces. I couldn't even find a 4650 with a 64 bit interface, all the ones on newegg are 128, low profile or not.
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March 17, 2011 10:47:57 PM

low profile so you want a gpu without Pci-e connectors am I right?
You have to start thinking like a gamers and forget about low profile otherwise your going to have a bad gaming experience.
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2011 10:51:06 PM

Warning: Thinking like a gamer can be hazardous to ones bank account. ;) 
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March 17, 2011 11:43:38 PM

benski said:
Warning: Thinking like a gamer can be hazardous to ones bank account. ;) 

lol so true

OP the question about the 64bit and 128bit is the speed the gpu will communicate with its ram. So a 64bit one will be a bit slower. Just be careful sometimes they put a lot of vram on them to make them look attractive. A lot of cases you will find the ram also slow old ram on the gpu.

I was wondering if there is a 5770 low profile version out there
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a c 173 U Graphics card
March 18, 2011 12:52:43 AM

there is a 5750 low profile
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a c 363 U Graphics card
March 18, 2011 1:09:44 AM

iam2thecrowe said:
there is a 5750 low profile


I would not recommend a HD 5750 in a PC with only a 240w power supply. The best recommendation I would make is the HD 5570 which is basically equal to the HD 4670 and consumes less power. 19w if I remember correctly when playing games.
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March 19, 2011 9:28:06 AM

Hmm Thanks for all your help guyz, so its done em going to buy 5570 probably next week and then will invest in my RAM :) 
wish me luck lol
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March 22, 2011 3:47:22 PM

Hmm so are you saying i cant use 5570 with my 240 watt :/ 
i have nothing much installed on my system, except some necessary hardware
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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 22, 2011 3:50:01 PM

Liu kang baking a pie said:
Hi

All those games you are mentioning are cpu intensive games. They need a quad to run them without problems. That dual core cpu will be knocked down to size I'm afraid



noob fail! GTAIV is the only game out there that requires a quad core for high settings

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=204
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March 23, 2011 11:28:13 AM

Best answer selected by mady4real.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
March 24, 2011 9:57:20 AM

jaguarskx said:
I would not recommend a HD 5750 in a PC with only a 240w power supply. The best recommendation I would make is the HD 5570 which is basically equal to the HD 4670 and consumes less power. 19w if I remember correctly when playing games.

was just pointing it out for the poster above me, i know the op's psu would blow with this card.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2935/13 total load power in watts from the wall is 175 for this system with a 5570. assuming 80% PSU efficiency this translates to 140w internal DC power draw. Should be ok on a 240w psu assuming the psu can produce its rated power.
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March 24, 2011 1:00:51 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
was just pointing it out for the poster above me, i know the op's psu would blow with this card.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2935/13 total load power in watts from the wall is 175 for this system with a 5570. assuming 80% PSU efficiency this translates to 140w internal DC power draw. Should be ok on a 240w psu assuming the psu can produce its rated power.



Hmmm wait, are you suggesting that 240 watt will be ok for 5570? But why everyone on the other forum is like WTF! 240 :o  Am i risking my PSU or Graphic card with 5570 on 240 Watt ?

What are my chances?
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