Next one.....

**Redone photo's, hope they're the original ones posted for the captions :P**
**Edit, links out of date so added text.
After trying to figure out upgrades for our current rigs, I though I may as well just build a new one altogether (Gf is happy with hers as is, pfft, women)

So after seeing the Xspc Rasa kits, Amd's 975BE and Inwins Dragonrider case I figured I'd put a prospective build up on here,
Ignore prices/out of stock messages as when it come to buying I'll be shopping around

In Win Dragon rider case
It will of course be modded to suit location and needs

Sapphire 5830 for the Gf's rig, then I can steal her 5770 and Crossfire it up with the one I have in mine

Asus M4a89td mobo
plate for things to sit on

Xspc Rasa Rx240 kit
This will be my first venture into water, liking the look and reviews of these kits and making the leap (Crosses fingers)

some hard drive for Windows and WoW to live on

Corsair vengeance Ram 1600MHz
8Gb should last me through a year or two I reckon and fill all four slots on the Mobo so its pretty :P
Amd955 (I think that was my original choice) to do the braining,
and all powered by
Corsair TX750v2
might try and find a modular but not too bothered as my cable management skills are pretty passable :P (O.C.D.O.C.D.O.C.D.O.C.D)

Overclocking yes, most likely just to 4Ghz **Might try a little higher with the chosen FX8150 hehe
Single monitor at 1680x1050
Because my pc sits with the front against a wall, the front of it is pretty much irrelevant to me so,
Modding the case will involve moving the panel from the top of the case (power buttons, usb headers, headphones etc) to the side panel, which to me is the front
hopefully I'll be able to make 2 optical drives fill the slot that leaves so they load from the top, if not I'll make a blank panel up or something
I havent added up the cost of this yet because I know I dont have the money hehe,
cue selling old mobile (N97, almost pristine nick)
Spare forks for Motorbike Vf750f 39mm, not bad nick
and kidney, just one, (condition not stated)
So, any comments/questions/suggestions?

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  1. Interested to see how you will mod that case and how it will look after. Usually when I mode a case I try to find the most cleanest case to work with.
  2. My previous mods/adaptations are in my siglinks,
    but I think is my favourite tbh so far
  3. haha nicely done.
  4. After some pre-build chatting with a trusted mate,(read 'Cleverereverer than me')
    I'm going to drop the hard drive, I have a 500Gb Barracuda sat here doing nothing so may as well use that
    And hmm, seeing as the 5830's are so cheap do I,
    Crossfire two of those, two 5770's or go sing, no, I want crossfire dammit, no single cardage in this one
    So, off to find comparisons of 5830 vs 5770 crossfire tests,
    is the 5830's locked bios going to hurt me too much......

    My modular psu resolve is slipping too, aint she purty?

    I've also been poring over dragonrider pics trying to see little details that may affect modding, research as follows

    The panel from the top will fit on the side panel, albeit in a vertical position, no problem with that,
    The psu filter is going to be persuaded to go on the outside, I'm not removing the psu everytime I want to clean the filter :P (another reason for a modular psu though)
    the mesh and 220 fan are out, It'll be replaced by an acrylic window showing off the frame on the sidepanel (And the shiny well-lit insides ofc)
    Hard drive cage looks like its going to be removed and cut up then an access hole in the top for the optical drive/drives (might get away with just the one Dvd Rewriter) and replace enough hdd cage (Screwed to roof, not original placement) to hold that and the res/pump from the Rasa kit in place
    Thats about all I can think of at the moment, graphics comparison time
    **Pretty set on the 5770 Crossfire now, as I originally was anyway hehe**

    I dont suppose Inwin wants to supply the case as a sponsor deal?
    **Edit:No p.m.'s from inwin or their U.K. suppliers so I had to buy one :( (Life sucks kids, get used to it)
    I'm going to have to send them a link to the thread when I'm finished hehe 'This is what you SHOULD have done' :P
    Might even put the blue light logo on the side (So its visible) if they would :P
  5. Reading more reviews, Someone has said that the Pump in the Rasa kit wont fit into the drive cage, with or without the rails,
    I think he just hasn't tried hard enough :)
  6. +1 on that AX750 power supply. Put one in my main rig, she's a beauty.
  7. I reckon it'll last me a while so worth the extra money for the modularity, and although the reviews are picky about cable hiding (managements fine, but they cant seem to stick the cables in out of sight places)
    Thats only because I havent done it yet :)
  8. And honestly cables don't look all that bad if they are real neat and tidy... It's just when they are out of control that a build can get sloppy.

    I have to say I do enjoy having room behind the motherboard tray for cables though.
    Nice looking plate, saves me about £20 as well
    I know how you mean on the tidy cables thing Jason, I like invisicables though, looking into making up a backplate for the back of the Mobotray so its all smooth and neat :) cables will be sandwiched between that and Mobo tray and out of sight
  10. Found a nice 4 pack of fans on Egay,
    four of those on the 240 Rad, one at the rear exhaust, one at the front and one on the back of the cpu plate,
    I think I'll keep one spare (not filling case with fans shock expressed by the better half :P)
    Hooked up to leaves me one spare control knob, I'm wondering if that can power my lighting ok? /wanders off to figure out led power draw....
  11. Ok, Rents paid this month,
    Bought the Dragon rider and a Rasa RX240 kit,
    a pair of cathodes turned up this morning as well (although to be honest I just wanted the dual inverter from that for the twisty tubes coming later)
    So hopefully this project is going to get underway properly soon :)
  12. jasonw223 said:
    +1 on that AX750 power supply. Put one in my main rig, she's a beauty.

    Will she power two of these though?

    Love the look, have to figure out the mechanics of having two of those beasts tho, psu being the main Issue I can see
    and unless I figure out a tidy solution to the problem, I'm afraid you may be able to see cables coming from the psu (Shock!)
    I dont want to make a box up, it'd look pants I reckon, seen the psu cover things, dont like them so it will most likely be neat tidy 6'' of cable on view (/Cries)
    add that to the inevitable waterhose from the cpu block on view, hmmm, this is going to be interesting....
    Firefly definition of interesting btw :)
    **Edit Rasa kit just turned up, off to play hehe :P
  13. It'll even power two 580s with no trouble whatsoever. This PSU is a champ! Honestly you could probably run 4x 6950s with it... I'd love to try that lol.
  14. Awesome, thats good to know man, thank you,
    That mobo will hold two of the CuII's but I wouldn't want to look for one that supports four lol, I'd need scaffolding in there :P
    Rasa kit is looking good, the rad is housebrick sized, and it is definately going to be the focal point I wanted, balanced with two T-Virus resses the top of this rig is going to look great imo
  15. I hate to sound like that X-wing pilot guy,
    but look at the size of that thing......... thats a 12 can pack of Beer its next to

    This is the RX240 with 4x120mm fans, I've used the 80>120mm fan adaptors as frame legs to mock it up,
    I will be mounting four Gelid fans on there when I get those, but for a visual pointer,

    Hope the Rider gets here today :)
  16. Okaaay :)

    Case arrived today,
    bit of a quick unpack to check everything was well then off to sleep (love nightshifts)
    Tomorrow its get on with some measuring, checking my ideas will work, maybe even some cutting and drilling
    I'm about to multiply the Cases waveform by its complex conjugate....

  17. Wow, its been a busy and productive day today,
    weather was fine, everything went as planned and I'm fair happy with the project so far but this is a fairly big update so make sure your coffee's full :P

    on to the piccies then,
    I should mention I was supervised on the indoor work by Taz :)

    220Mm fan and mesh came off, little scratches around the edge where it sat, but I'm thinking an allover coat of my favourite spraypaint when I'm done anyways

    All the fans and included gubbins out of the case laid out nicelike
    Included there is the top panel and the pcb from inside, usb's etc

    Hmm, I'll need those mounting rails later.....

    So a quick word from Mr Angle grinder and here they are :)

    If I hadnt seen the twisty reservoirs, I was mounting two opticals in the hole left by the control panel, they fit almost perfectly hehe

    I'll need to make up a blanking plate for that though

    A lot of people in reviews complain about the placement of the psu dust filter, I mounted mine on the bottom and had to move the feet slightly, if Inwin moved them or redesigned the feet life would be easier for reviewers :P

    Marked up mounting holes for the control panel on the side where I want it and got a bit cutty with Angle grinder, later realised a power button issue and cut out the area where I marked pwr button/reset button, or the little spring on the back didn't allow the button to be pushed lol

  18. Rails fastened to the pcb and the whole thing fastened to the side panel [...] AG0079.jpg
    Looks ok to me
    and the sidepanel still slides on as Inwin intended, no catching the front bezel at all [...] AG0080.jpg
    My Gf's old P4 case is helping out too, by supplying the metal for the false roof box and the Mobo tray cover (No pics of that yet) [...] AG0081.jpg [...] AG0082.jpg
    The sata/powerlead for the optic drive feeds through it so that will be well hidden too [...] AG0110.jpg
    and painted up **Added after photo fail editing [...] AG0125.jpg
    And thats it as it stands at end of play today [...] AG0086.jpg
    next up is sorting the mobo rear cover out, drilling some holes for waterpipe routing thenIi'm kinda stuck,
    I need the psu to decide on routing for that (Changed mind back to a non-modular, its going to be a lot tidier)
    and the Motherboard so I can see where I need to drill holes in the Mobo tray
    the graphics cards when I get them are having a support made up, cant do that till I have them obviously so unless any suppliers out there want to help me out, I'm kind of on hold till payday turns round
    Hope you like the build so far,

  19. Notes to self,
    TX850 psu
    Standoffs on back of mobo tray as spacers for panel cover
    16mm holes req for hoses/grommets through case
    plan fan controller placement/drilling for
    6 right angle barbs, 4 straight (have straights already from kit)
    cable tie anchors
    Matt black spray cans :P
  20. Having sold my N97 I ordered some sundries this morning, no takers for the kidney yet though :P
    Acrylic sheet 3mm for the window
    6x right-angled rotary barbs
    8x grommets for cut-through parts of the case,
    so hopefully I can add the window and start routing the hoses soon, still need a 16mm drill bit to make the holes with,
    I reckon an engineering mate will have something I can use though,

    Still not decided on the 955/975 bit, but by the time I can afford the Mobo/chip prices may have dropped more (If B.D. gets here :P)
    and although I hear they're the 'same' chip, aren't the 975's a better quality one?
    I'm going for plain distilled and a couple of killcoils in the loop, will that be enough to stave off bio-organisms or should I also add some nuke type stuff?
    I'd prefer to keep the mix non-toxic due to our cats
    but things are slowly getting there, psu and two twisty resses on payday, maybe Mobo if I have enough spare, going for the
    as that is going to let me use the onboard usb 3.0 header so I dont have to route the panels ports throught the rear of the case, its all getting there hehe :)
  21. Lots done yesterday, more shinies arrived this morning so busy again, will update with pics later today :)
  22. Grr, wrote up a great update, then got the 'you cant edit your message' /fume :P

    anyhows, some water related doings yesterday,
    Xspc res fits in the drivecage fine, just on the hdd rails, not the optical ones

    Hooked up the barbs to the res so I could route the hoses and figure out what/where/why??

    vanity shot of the lovely drillwork done by my mate (19.5mm holes for a 11/16mm hose if anyone needs to know)

    which puts those Shiny rotary barbs right where I need them with plenty of play for adjustments later
    (note the also lovely acrylic window mod, it arrived this morning,more on that later though)

    cut a slope on both sides of the roofbox to allow hoses through and ground out a bit of the roll on the hdd cage to avoid any kinks
    both feed and return on same side as the backside has no room to feed the hose and I didnt want to cut too much up :P

    and that was yesterdays 'work' pretty much, I'm really happy with this build so far, and not a sign of actual computerness anywhere yet :P
    now onto todays fun.....
  23. So, unhooked all the hoses etc from yesterday, had a bit of drilling to get on with today when a knock at the door roused me from my musings....
    Rotary barbs arrived and my acrylic for the window yay!!

    you'll be forgiven for thinking I'm a noob and put the standoffs on the wrong side of the mobo tray but they're spacers for the back panel to sit on

    See? leaves a slight gap all around the edge for those wires to feed through, a lot of the Rig will be all slathered in window trim to cover edges

    Sits nicely in the specified gap, hang on though, isnt there supposed to be a hole for the fan at the back? brb :P

    Me and Mr Angle grinder know how to make holes.....

    Needs more finishing work but its in the right place

    onto the roofbox then, taped it up to see what goes where and drilled some holes for holding screws

    That done I sanded it all down inside and out

    and its not looking half bad

    a little clearance underneath for the cpu cable to sneak through and jobs a good one

    Sorry about the click for last picture...
    just the window to go....
  24. Pretty simple one here,
    I took the mesh off so you can actually see inside the pretty cablefree case and decided to stick an acrylic window in there to help keep dust out and noise in

    Acrylic turned up this morning and another mate trimmed the 100mm off I needed for me

    fitted window trim around the outside and glued the window in, I'll trim the rest after payday but I love the stuff lol
    and Did I mention the druid midgets dancing round it whilst the glue dried? bloody diminutive tree-huggers lol

    and there she is, one simple window install

    and thats me till payday,
    when I have the Mobo and psu I can plan cuts/drills for cables behind the Mobo and start making wires disappear :)

  25. Hmm, heres a wonder,
    the Esata ports on the front panel, the cables coming from them are regular sata type connectors, am I wrong in asssuming they wont work correctly? as in they wont supply power to a Esata device plugged into them?
    Had a google about and I'm still uncertain so thought I'd ask, but I wouldn't see the point in Esata ports that only function as normal sata ports, unless I plug one into the Esata socket on the Mobo, Mobo only has one specified Esata port on the back, no internal header like the usb 3.0 has.
  26. To be honest I've never actually used eSata lol.

    Every case that I've ever built a PC in that has eSata on the front just connects to a normal SATA port on the mobo though... I guess it must work.
  27. I'll hook them up to the normal sata's on the Mobo,
    I'll have to find an Esata device to test if it powers it though lol, just curious really lol
    Getting itchy now, payday next monday hehe
  28. Well its Payday monday so I can look to ordering my shinies,
    possibly sold an old system to a guy at work so maybe a tweak to the budget but heres the shopping list (bank balance and Gf permitting :P)
    Corsair tx850 so I can get my lines routed (Deff ordering)
    AsRock 890fx D5 revision (Black socket for AM3+) (Deff ordering)
    Couple of right angle Sata leads (Deff ordering)
    Amd 955 C3 (Poss ordering)
    and possibly some ram,
    that leaves me the Graphics cards and fans to get plus a few sundries for tidying up the build
    (3 tins of Matt black spraypaint :P)
    not much I can do this weekend though so its just admiring looks and tutting at tiny imperfections in the original paint hehe
    Getting close to finish though so I'm gearing up for awesomeness :)
  29. Ok,
    FrozenQ are not shipping the T-virus rez atm cause they just moved premises so theres a shortage Grr, I could buy one from two vendors but the added postage irks me so I'm waiting on that but,
    AsRock 890fx Deluxe 5 ordered
    Tx 850 ordered
    8x ordered
    and ordered, that should give me plenty to play with until the rents gone and I figure what else I can afford this month :)
    should be some cable madness going off this week so stay tuned
  30. Well I got my Psu, fans and controller through,
    I also received a motherboard, unfortunately it was the wrong one :P

    Due to a supplier mixup/fail/letting my vendor down,
    I got an AsRock 890Gx extreme4 instead of my much awaited Fx Deluxe 5 so I hopped on Serenity (Trusty vf750) and took it to the shop where I got a full refund on the spot, washed down with profuse apologies from the guys at komputer Kare Hinckley, (Thanks again guys:)

    So, its find a Mobo time again but they seem a little thin on the ground so might be a while yet :(
    but hopefully weather will be ok this weekend for some drilling on the mobo tray and fitting the fan controller
  31. Yup, good weekends work, I'll post some pics in the am when I'm home from work, its starting to look good though :-)
  32. Right, Correct Mobo turned up today yay so thats a play for the weekend,
    need my twisty resses now so I can hook up the loop and get it tested,
    been busy this week and not much time to post I'm afraid so in no real order....

    theres that ssd tray In win provided for us,

    and heres Mr hard drive..

    Hey! where'd he go?

    now thats the hdd hidden, but just look at all those cables from the shiny Tx 850...

    Reckon I can do something about those.....
  33. Got my shiny Tx850 so need to start hiding cables...

    The molex and sata for the roofbox get fed through the gap between the hard drive cage and the mobo tray,

    up into the custom made roofbox

    The pumps power lead actually reaches that molex so the other ones unnecessary, hidden by the psu for now

    almost invisible :P

    Plenty of leads still to go though, cut the hole for the 20+4pin block so that tucks under the mobo, and trimmed the hole to avoid any fraying/cuts

    and from the back...

    and with the back panel on, psu leads not quite in place though

    looking back, not the best photo, but theres more sanding/painting to do yet :P
  34. Reckon the pace is quickening now so its time to get that fan controller homed and the grommet put in for the radfans cables

    this will take the fanwires from the rad into the roofbox

    and heres the 8 holes for the controller done, (Breaths again)

    bit of dressing needed for the final install but it works,

    and shiny knobs for all!!

    The two bank switches are mounted in the grill so I snipped a little mesh out to allow function,

    those little blue spacers are to stop the fans from squishing when I tighten up the screws, made from pen tops doncha know :)

    cut into the drivebay covers to fit the extra 120mm fan for the front intake

    so it doesn't strim my waterhoses when its on


    maybe finetune it a touch, but were good to go,

    looking sweet...

  35. You may have also noticed I moved the mounts for the rad from between the bottom fan and rad, to below the bottom fan,

    This makes the Rig taller, again :P

    its 28.5 inches high, thats almost a kitchen table height

    See? :P

    Got a good plan for the space where the front/top panel came from, but I'm keeping that one under my hat for now, with having the mobo I can finetune routing and start finalising the build, I need my twisty resses to get the loop in and tested first though, start shipping FrozenQ!!!! :P
    still need a cpu, some ram, an optical drive as well, but its getting close so I'm naming her,
    its not In Wins Dragon Rider anymore, its 'Psycho Rider' from now on :P

    hope you enjoyed this installment :)
    any questions/comments? lets have them,
  36. Damn, Where'd my pics go botophucket?
  37. Brain bored now, damn reservoirs still not in uk stock....
    making a dust/soundfilter from a sheet of neoprene mat I picked up and researching Raid 5 out of boredom, may do it, just to have more cables to hide :P
  38. Why can't I get my gorram Reservoirs!! :P
    I'm not a waiting kind of guy lol, especially when its holding everything up,
    so I put my time to use by re-doing all the broken photobucket links, some aren't as originally posted, but I've done what I can :)
  39. Reagan once said 'the nine most terrifying words in the english language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
    I can condense that into three I am growing to despise,
    Both my resses and graphics cards now, Je pense la project est maudite le Grr
  40. Got bored and bought 2x to pass the time,
    I'm holding off on the cpu though still torn between the 955 and 975, and its a struggle to see a C3, loads say there selling it, but boxcodes dont match or the stepping code data is missing from the sheet,
    I'm getting frustrated though at the lack of graphic cards and reservoirs, if I hadn't already mentioned that :P
  41. .........
    Due to a motorcycle accident on tuesday evening on the way to work,
    funds for anything fun are now frozen until insurance is sorted out,
    I am going to strip down what I've done so far and get the painting done while I wait...
    but only the processor, graphics cards and resses to buy now so at least its not too bad
    FML hehe
  42. You know what? I may as well order the damn resses from frozenQ himself, works out about fifteen pounds more but with 21/10/11 as a shipping date for the uk, it'd be a damn sight quicker to get here lol,
    /waiting for sunny day to do more casework in the garden
  43. Still....
  44. Sweet build :D
  45. Interesting Moto. Could you show me how you handle the wiring on the 4 external fans? I have a triple external rad that's looking pretty ugly.
  46. If you check the pics, I taped the two from top fans together, then when they join the two off the bottom fans, they get bound and all four get fed through the grommetted hole in the roof which is kind of under the rad,
    At work atm but I'll post a decent pic in the am when I get home mate
  47. Come on moto, we need more...
  48. I need funds mate, the bike incident has sucked about £500 out of my wallet :-(
    Might be able to get the resses ordered this month, few bills to pay yet though
    Nice to see you in here though man
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