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May 26, 2011 2:48:20 AM

In 2007 I had CyberPower build me this computer.

CAS: CoolerMaster Stacker 830 Tower 420W Case W/ Side-panel Window
CS_FAN: Extra Case Cooling Fan [+3] (3 x Fans [+6])
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™64 X2 4800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+14]
FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling System (Superior Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dba)
HDD: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-43])
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe nForce 570 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 MBoard w/ Dual PCI-Express [+55]
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (($10 off Mail-in Rebate) Mushkin Brand PN: 991529 [+15])
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: Microsoft® 7 64bit <- Updated this recently.
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts Power Supplies [+59] (CoolerMaster Unit 600 Watts eXtreme Power - SLI Supports)
VIDEO: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express [-178] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO2: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express [-178] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)


Edit: Also I have not overclocked anything, not sure if/how either. lol

I am very novice at building, did alot of research w/ newegg reviews on the particulars of this build. It was great 4 years ago, now its lacking in aspects. I currently playing Aion and having issues with FPS, some lag during pvp. What would be the best bang for my buck in upgrading? I would probably be replacing my computer in another 2 years or so....

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May 26, 2011 4:49:52 AM

That mobo has a beta BIOS that adds support for up to 95W AM3 CPUs.
You need to upgrade the BIOS to version 5001. You have a flash tool for the BIOS in the utilities in there.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2/M2NSLI_Deluxe/...

Then you can get an Athlon II X3 or Athlon II X4 and a new video card, depending on your budget. 2 more GB of RAM as well. The CPU and the RAM will cost some $120-135.
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May 27, 2011 5:29:10 PM

mosox said:
That mobo has a beta BIOS that adds support for up to 95W AM3 CPUs.
You need to upgrade the BIOS to version 5001. You have a flash tool for the BIOS in the utilities in there.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2/M2NSLI_Deluxe/...

Then you can get an Athlon II X3 or Athlon II X4 and a new video card, depending on your budget. 2 more GB of RAM as well. The CPU and the RAM will cost some $120-135.


I'm looking at this for RAM. G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ

What kind of Video card should I look at?

Also, whats the difference between these CPU's

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX

vs

AMD Athlon II X4 645 Propus 3.1GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX645WFGMBOX

As far as the reviews go the 3.0gz has 3 reviewers who own the same Motherboard as I do.


What you think?
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May 27, 2011 5:45:33 PM

I would get one of those kits
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's the same CPU clocked 0.1GHz higher.

here's a budget video card much better than your current one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want to play demanding games there's other options.


But do the BIOS update first, before buying anything, ask in here for the best way to do it, each mobo manufacturer has its own utilities:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&SLangua...


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May 28, 2011 12:00:50 AM

mosox said:
I would get one of those kits
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's the same CPU clocked 0.1GHz higher.

here's a budget video card much better than your current one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want to play demanding games there's other options.


But do the BIOS update first, before buying anything, ask in here for the best way to do it, each mobo manufacturer has its own utilities:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&SLangua...


Thanks for everything so far :) 

As far as video cards go, Do you think that I would need to run the SAPPHIRE video card sli or is this video card performance equivalent to my current sli 8500 gt?

Also, I'm currently playing aion (similar to lineage in graphics) a somewhat graphic dependent game. What would be a good card if I only went with one video card (only need to last for another 2 years or less)

And would either of these video card/ram/cpu get me through another 2 years without needing to upgrade?
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May 28, 2011 3:56:09 AM

A single 5670 is sensibly better than two of those but for full HD you can get a HD 6770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You need to register the card on the XFX site within 30 days of purchase in order to activate the lifetime warranty.

Yep, you can forget about upgrading for quite some time.
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June 1, 2011 3:13:00 AM

Alright, attempted to flash the motherboard twice and failed. Followed the steps from that website. Now the computer won't boot up (black screen) everything is running, but no video output. It seems i corrupted my bios chip so researching threw things I've found a ebay seller of my bios chip for $10 bucks, not sure about this fix. Every tried this route?

If I did not go this route, what would be a decent motherboard to replace this assuming I went with the current setup + the new cpu/2gig ram/1gig video card.

and what if i went with a new route with ddr3 ram and av current setup? motherboard, ram, cpu, video card.

This is starting to suck... lol
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June 2, 2011 3:05:05 AM

Well tried removing battery, clearing cmos, removing n moving memory and video cards nothing work.

Ordered bios chip on ebay. Should get it in a few days. Hope that works.

If not What should I do, buy an older mobo to fit the ddr2 ram, video card, and cpu that you suggested (looking through newegg, can't really find one that fits am3 ddr2 800) The AMD X4 cpu, 1gig video card, and 2 gig of ram was going to cost me $270.

or should i upgrade my mobo to go w/ ddr3.. if so what mobo? ddr3? video card(remain the same, assuming it would work better on a better mobo and ram), and would the cpu stay the same?
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