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$700 first build advice

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May 26, 2011 3:10:07 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Soon

Budget Range: $700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: games, surfing, work

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country of Origin: us

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: no

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: My first build, Ive been searching looking it up and this is sort of what ive gotten for ideas. Is this good, and all compatible? I want it to be as future proof as i can. Also, i dont know what video card i should get. There are a couple combos that i found to save a little bit. Also, as this is my first build is there anything else i might need?


CPU/ Motherboard Combo

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-H67A-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case/ PSU Combo

Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,come with Four Fans-2x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan,1x Top 120mm Fan,1x Rear 120mm Fan,Support up to 7 Fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous @40°C,80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC "Compatible with Core i7,i5" Power Supply


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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May 26, 2011 3:50:10 AM

Leaves you about $150 for a graphics card but,

Don't need crossfire motherboard if you don't plan on adding another ati card in the future and also don't need micro atx board if you're purchasing a mid tower.

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-D3-B3 $109.99 (save $20)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case/PSU combo Cooler Master $84.98 (save $55)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Now you have room for $225 GPU which you're building this for gaming & some what future proofing is the graphic card.

MSI GTX 560ti $249.99 ($229.99 AR)

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May 26, 2011 4:25:53 AM

^ Why get P67 if he's not OCing?

Check out my build guide for $600. Switch the i3 2100 for an i5 2400, that'll add $50. Then with the remaining $50 upgrade a bit and pickup the GTX 560.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or get a 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I wouldn't suggest that PSU just because there have been cases where they have overheated and or well... exploded.
Build Guide: http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
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May 26, 2011 4:57:31 AM

^ I was basing it off his list & wanting to future proof his system a bit. With the games currently out & coming out soon (primarily BF3), whatever budget you can save to put in a GPU @ 1920x1080 imo is important.

For mobo I was thinking 2500k microcenter deal if he had one near him & should have added a p61 board but I rushed it.

PSU: had the same rating as Rosewell. I had a rosewell go poof on me a long time ago & haven't used them since. Saw the combo deal @ newegg with decent ratings on PSU so I went with it for the price savings.

As for braveheart_84, Aznshinobi's $600 guide is good (didn't have it for ref), but depending on what games you expect to play (ex. metro 2033 now, BF3 later) a better graphic card will be your best bet for future proofing.
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May 26, 2011 5:10:49 AM

^ I believe you mean H61

As for the card, yes you should be getting at least a 560 Ti (not GTX) or 6950 2GB. However 560 GTX or 6870 would be good for low-med settings @ 1920x1080 on intensive games.
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May 26, 2011 12:52:08 PM

I looked at that guide before, and i used some of it, but i saw the combo on the case/psu thats why i picked that. I should just take exactly that except upgrade gpu for best performance? What would i need to play games on high settings?
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May 26, 2011 8:55:30 PM

Metro 2033 is currently the most demanding game out. Take a look at this chart with the ref gtx 560 ti under review in comparison with other cards for Metro 2033. At your resolution, it's not pretty. However, most games currently out or coming out very soon are not this graphic intensive. As for Battlefield 3, we just don't know how demanding the frostbite 3 engine will be, but from the looks of it (dx11 tessellation), it'll be pretty darn demanding at high settings/resolutions & tessellation.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...

Battlefield Bad Company 2 is a game out that is used in a lot of benchmarks & quite beautiful in the graphics department. Your system with a current gaming card ex. GTX 560ti will have no problems running it smoothly on 4x AA at 1920 x 1080 high settings. I ran it great with a GTX 260 core 16 before I upgraded with those settings on 1920 x 1200 resolution. The highest setting if I remember correctly is 16AA 16AF for Bad Company 2 & your system will crawl, but that is an insane setting for a budget gaming pc.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...

From the Nvidia forums, this person built a slightly more expensive system & ran the Unigine Final Heaven benchmark which has tessellation. Dx11 Tessellation will be in a couple big title later this year & on. Battlefield 3 is the one which everyone is salivating for. His setup is with the 2500k/p67 cpu/mobo & gtx 560ti & take note, he's running it @ 1680x1050 res, so expect drop in frame rates @ 1920x1080 resolution or you will need to lower your settings.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=198450

With that said, to answer your question, it honestly depends on how you expect to future proof your pc & what types of games you expect to play. First Person shooters will almost always be the most graphically intensive & mmorpgs are on the opposite spectrum.

1. Do you want to get components that you can later spend more money and upgrade accordingly or OC to your gaming demands? Ex. get a sli/cf motherboard so that you can drop another graphics card when you need to and/or a motherboard cpu that is overclocking friendly like the p67 mobo with a I7-2500k to get you better mileage?

2. Can you currently increase your budget a bit higher to slot in a higher graphics card? ex. @ 1920x1080 resolution GTX 570 or HD 6970 are ~$350 cards will run future games at max resolution as long as AA AF is kept low.

3. Other method is to play at 1680x1050 resolution (windowed mode) or get a 1680x1050 max resolution monitor.

If the points stated above are overly complex for what you want to do now, go with AznShinobi's $600 budget build & get a gtx 560ti or 6950 & what he said is correct.

"As for the card, yes you should be getting at least a 560 Ti (not GTX) or 6950 2GB. However 560 GTX or 6870 would be good for low-med settings @ 1920x1080 on intensive games." - AznShinobi
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May 26, 2011 11:17:10 PM

ok thanks guys.

To my original build i changed the psu to

Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and the mobo to this

ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and as much as i would love to increase my budget i dont think i can. so im going to go with this card i think? first person shooters are not games i play real ofetn, sometimes though.

SAPPHIRE 100314-2SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

How is that?
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May 26, 2011 11:41:55 PM

Yup, solid choice of GPU within your budget without nitpicking apart every little pros/cons for the 2 or 3 cards in that price range.
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May 26, 2011 11:49:06 PM

Alright. Another maybe stupid question, its my first build. looking back at that gpu, it mentions amd, and it doesnt say intel anywhere that i see... will it still work with my cpu/mobo?
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May 26, 2011 11:56:41 PM

Yes it will work. AMD bought out ATI.
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May 27, 2011 12:09:09 AM

ATI doesn't exist, but as CWU said, AMD bought out ATI in 2006. They kept the name going until last year where finally they just kept the Radeon name and dropped the ATI.
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