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HD 5850 vs. GTX460

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March 16, 2011 5:28:44 PM

Hi there,
Im stuck between these cards which i am looking to get at around the same price. Ive looked at benchmarks of them and they are always different, sumtimes the one and sumtimes the other. The cards are:
1) Zotac GTX460 1GB
2) MSI Radeon HD R5850 TWINFROZR II 1GB
Im looking for the 1 better for DX11 gaming since more games are starting to use it, but still great in DX10. :) 
thnx

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March 16, 2011 5:46:52 PM

HD5850 is slightly better.
a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 5:57:56 PM

You might consider getting a GTx 460 768MB. They are being phased out (replaced by new GTX 550 Ti) so there should be continuing sales on them. A few days ago they had an EVGA GTX 460 768MB overclocked model on sale at newegg for $110. It is off rebate now so no being sold at such a discount, but you might watch for others in the next few weeks.

Note that the 768MB version is only marginally slower than the 1 GB version and the difference may not be noticed in most games.
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 6:04:44 PM

^+ the 768MB overclocks better,

5850 is much better than 460 anyway
March 16, 2011 6:54:40 PM

kool thanx for the help :D 
March 16, 2011 7:33:08 PM

ive just read some reviews and it sayss the 5850 twin frozr is bad for OC..now i want to OC my card not insanly but just a bit to make a difference. would the twin frozr still be the best bet? or any other 5850 or GTX460 be better for OC?
a c 595 U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 7:35:58 PM

crincler said:
Hi there,
Im looking for the 1 better for DX11 gaming since more games are starting to use it, but still great in DX10. :) 
thnx

DirectX 11 tesselation performance, is the primary drawback of the AMD 5000 series.

a c 106 U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 7:48:35 PM

I say get the 5850. Overall it's a little better than the 460. The cooler should be fine for OC, but of course as they say your mileage may vary. Even so a modest overclock will get you to 5870/6870 levels in alot of games.
a c 595 U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 7:49:19 PM

This is an interesting article comparing the GTX 460 and the 5850 in the Lost Planet 2 benchmark. It specifically covers DirectX 9 vs. DirectX 11 performance and explains tesselation and other DirectX 11 features.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1391/1/

This pretty much sums it up:
"When it comes to DirectX 11 performance the MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1GB video card proved to be faster than the ATI Radeon HD 5850 in Lost Planet 2."



"Once DirectX 11 was enabled the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 was able to run the Lost Planet 2 benchmark nearly 10% better than the ATI Radeon HD 5850. This is a rather significant come back and as you can see the NVIDIA powered MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1GB video card does well on DX11 game titles."
a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2011 9:44:36 PM

Care to share some info on your system? PSU? Resolution??

5850 would be the better overall performer.
March 17, 2011 1:04:57 PM

My specs are:
G31T-M7,
core2duo E5300,
Radeon HD5770,
4GB RAM,
Coolermaster 600W
19" Moniter (upgarding in near future)
Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2011 1:13:54 PM

Are you replacing the 5770? If you're looking selectively for better dx11 performance then go with the 460 1gb model, as it's better then the 5850 by a few frames.

Overall though, the 5770 is still a decent card. If you're planning to sell it, I would suggest a slightly better card.
March 17, 2011 1:16:14 PM

ya im planning to sell it for 1 of the cards
March 17, 2011 2:45:29 PM

now is the hd5870 better than both those cards?
a c 125 U Graphics card
March 17, 2011 3:01:51 PM

crincler said:
now is the hd5870 better than both those cards?


Yes the 5870 is a fair bit faster that the 5850... but if you already have a 5770 you might consider going crossfire 5770s, which performs generally a little faster than a 5850 but slower than a 5870. It should save some cash though, although if the prices on these other cards are really plumetting then I guess just upgrade to the best single card.
March 17, 2011 3:16:10 PM

unfortunattly my motherboard cant crossfire, so ill go for the gtx460 and in the future add another one, since most people say that it is great if u got 2.
a c 125 U Graphics card
March 17, 2011 3:25:48 PM

crincler said:
unfortunattly my motherboard cant crossfire, so ill go for the gtx460 and in the future add another one, since most people say that it is great if u got 2.


Um... well I mean that's a fair choice and all. But, if you have 2 PCIe 16 lanes, you can crossfire... especially if you can SLI, you can crossfire. One of crossfire's benefits is that it works on basically all motherboards, whereas SLI needs some Nvidia chips on the mobo and the SLI certification.
March 17, 2011 3:30:16 PM

im talking about SLI in the future, my MB a small thing with 2 ram slots 1 PCIe slot ect. :) 
a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2011 3:59:51 PM

Why don't you keep your 5770, and save up on a better motherboard? I would rather replace the weaker end hardware then the decent GPU you have. In fact, your resolution should be fine. Instead of getting a new monitor and GPU, why not slowly upgrade the motherboard and CPU?
March 17, 2011 5:45:48 PM

well thanx for all the help and advice :D 
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