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MSI hawk 460 1gb vs HD 6850

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March 18, 2011 8:48:54 AM

The title says it all, I was looking the charts and the fully oc'ed version of the 460 1gb seems to outperform an oc'ed 6870. My question is will it noticably out perform a 6850. I not really satisfied with it and was wondering if it's worth it. If it is I'll put 6850 on ebay (unless someone here wants to make an offer).

Thanks in advance

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March 18, 2011 9:01:55 AM

Well if the 460 is outperforming a 6870, then it will certainly outperform a 6850 too.

460's are really good in my opinion, i have one in my secondary PC and it's brilliant.
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March 18, 2011 9:08:03 AM

so your saying you already have a 6850? and your trying to sell that for a poor price and buy a more expensive gtx460..... ok i dont know what benchmarks you were looking at, but yes the gtx460 oc can beat a 6850/6870 in certain games. overall the 460 is slower than 6850 at stock clocks some wins to the 460 but most to the 6850. I guess if the games you play are that games the 460 does well at, then it may be beneficial to you, but i think your wasting your money if you already have a 6850, you will find the 460 slower in some games. you realise you can overclock the 6850 also.....If your going to upgrade get a gtx560 or 570 otherwise your going to end up with a different card that performs better in some games and worse in others and you will have spent money doing so.
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March 18, 2011 9:16:51 AM

iam2thecrowe said:
so your saying you already have a 6850? and your trying to sell that for a poor price and buy a more expensive gtx460..... ok i dont know what benchmarks you were looking at, but yes the gtx460 oc can beat a 6850/6870 in certain games. overall the 460 is slower than 6850 at stock clocks some wins to the 460 but most to the 6850. I guess if the games you play are that games the 460 does well at, then it may be beneficial to you, but i think your wasting your money if you already have a 6850, you will find the 460 slower in some games. you realise you can overclock the 6850 also.....If your going to upgrade get a gtx560 or 570 otherwise your going to end up with a different card that performs better in some games and worse in others and you will have spent money doing so.


I am rather stuck in weird situation because I have a Phenom II x2 555 Be and a 6850. I know I should upgrade both but I really only have the cash for one. I have looked at upgrading to a sandybridge (or possibly a phenom II x4 though they would be little value in that) but the boards I would want aren't on thew horizon for a while, and I really would like to play crysis 2 at respectable level. I could afford a 560 ti or maybe a 6950 but then I would wait a while on the proc. I really just can't seem to come to a conclusion that I feel comfortable with.
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a b U Graphics card
March 18, 2011 9:26:54 AM

Well one way is to keep saving until you know you have enough for both. Also factor in the money you'll get back from selling your existing stuff.
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March 18, 2011 9:34:25 AM

If save up I won't likely be able upgrade till around the end of the year. Thats quite abit of gaming to lose. In gpu intensive games like crysis 2 I would be better served with a better graphics card right? If wanted to go all out I could get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

but I assume that it would be severe;y bottlenecked by my proc.
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March 18, 2011 10:21:04 AM

That 6950 will be nowhere near used to it's full potential with your current processor, but in it's own right it will be brilliant for gaming. You are in a tricky situation.

The best way to go would be to get your 6950 now so you know that graphics isn't the problem and wait til you can do a CPU platform upgrade later down the line to unleash your full potential. If you feel like it, to minimise the bottleneck your cpu is causing, invest in an after market cooler and over clock it.
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March 18, 2011 2:07:34 PM

Overclocking your cpu would certainly help minimize any cpu bottleneck. It also depends on the game, resolution, and settings as to what the limiting factor may be. You may also want to try unlocking the other two cores if your board supports it. If you have the stock cooler, then I would recommend getting a decent tower cooler and overclocking your CPU. If you want a decent GPU upgrade from your 6850, then you need to get at least a GTX 560 or 6950. The most cost effective option though would be to add a second 6850 assuming your board supports crossfire and your PSU can handle it.
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March 18, 2011 2:08:11 PM

6950 2gb also has the potential to unlock shaders and overclock with a BIOS flash to the performance of 6970 so take that into consideration. I agree with Griffolion that GPU now is the best choice.
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March 18, 2011 4:54:38 PM

there is no sence in getting a 460, it would be a downgrade, idk where you've seen that 460 beats the 6870 ... 460 SOC < 6870 @ stock, usually 6850 is 10% better than 460, getting a 6950 would be worse *560 is over 5% worse than 6950*, but more future-proof than getting another 6850, and yeah OC or get a new CPU
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