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Approximate Purchase Date: the closer the better


Budget Range: $1500-2000


System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming


Parts Not Required: need everything


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg


Country of Origin: us


Parts Preferences: by brand or type amd cpu, amd/ati gpu, open for suggestion on the rest


Overclocking: Yes!!!


SLI or Crossfire: Yes!!!


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200)


Additional Comments: sound card recomedation as well. looking to start fresh and build a pc I can utilize for atleast 4yrs before it gets "tired" water cooled as well
 
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Hi, is there any reason you would rather go with AMD? At the moment there is very little reason to go with AMD for a gaming build. The i5-2500k and the Phenom II x6 1100T are about the same price and the i5 will outperform it in almost everything and overclock much better.
 
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I guess I'm used to doing AMD builds but if you can provide some benchmarking links I may have over looked, I guess I was thinking 6cores would be better than 4 and with the 2500k not having hyper threading it didn't seem like a good idea, again I may be lost and ill informed
 
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games cannot use 6 cores/hyperthreading and they wont in the near future. wait to see if amd can take down intel with bulldozer i dont think they can so here is a great gaming build around intel's gaming Goliath the i5 2500k

monitor: do you need one that is 1920x1200 or do you already have one at that resolution

keyboard g110 65$- http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-002232-Gaming-Keyboard-G110/dp/B002RRLQIO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306785636&sr=8-1

mouse 60$- http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Laser-Gaming-Precision/dp/B001NTFATI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306785747&sr=1-3

i5 2500k 225$ amazon

asrock p67 extreme4 mobo 160$ amazon

ram 75$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345&cm_re=corsair_8gb_vengeance-_-20-145-345-_-Product

psu 155$- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-850HX-850-Watt-Professional-Certified/dp/B0029F21LA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306785852&sr=1-1

case 150$- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Graphite-Mid-Tower-Gaming-CC600T/dp/B003Y0R1GO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306785935&sr=1-1 look at the nzxt phantom see if you like it

dvd drive 20$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&cm_re=asus_dvd_burner-_-27-135-204-_-Product

hdd 60$- http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002MQC0P8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1306786100&sr=1-2&condition=new

ssd 195$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227729&cm_re=ocz_solid_3-_-20-227-729-_-Product

gpu 490$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161368&cm_re=6950_2gb-_-14-161-368-_-Product x2
 
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k, so the nzxt has enough room for cooling and space to upgrade fans any suggestion on a heat sink?

and should i bother with a sound card?
sorry for asking so many questions just have been out of the loop for a few years and making sure I don't make any mistakes
 
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At anything over $850 system cost, I can't make a case for an AMD build. If you'll go the other way....
this has a full tower, high air flow case, 10.0 performance rated PSU, great cooler, best bang for the buck twin cards at 1920 x 1200, 550 MBps SSD and 120 Mhz monitor


Case - $155 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087
Case Fan - $15 - Antec Red 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209013
PSU - $120 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371024
MoBo - $385 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642515
CPU - $0 - Intel Core i5-2500K included w/ above
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080
RAM - $75 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145324
GFX - $220 - EVGA GTX 560 (900MHz) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651
GFX - $220 - Same
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
SSD - $220 - Corsair Forec 3 120GB released next week
DVD Writer - $70 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247
Monitor - $350 - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236104


 
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I agree about AMD's CPUs being useless in mid-high end gaming builds right now.

However, if you do have a preference for AMD video cards, then you could consider a pair of 6950 1GBs for $210 after rebate - 6950s scale incredibly in CF and I'd be very surprised to see them fall behind 560Ti SLI.

Of course, they won't have Physx, CUDA, 3D Vision etc., but I'm guessing that if you wanted those things you wouldn't have asked for an AMD based build.

 
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157198
$89.99 ASRock 870 EXTREME3 Has sata III, usb 3.0, dual x8 pcie slots.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262
$38.99 Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
$119.99 with $20 off with rebate code. AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878
$109.99 ($220 with two cards) SAPPHIRE 100297L Radeon HD 5830 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119195
$39.99 COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702018
$39.99 BFG Tech BFGR650WGSPSU 650W SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
$59.99 Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB

Subtotal: $628.92

The case will need fans put in any spots that have empty fan grills, If you look the case is really a mini-atx desktop case, so it sits sideways with the lcd monitor sitting on top of it.

I would get a 1080p tv instead of a lcd monitor. This way you get the digital tv tuner. I seen 27" 1080p tv's with led backlighting.

This way you can get a real hdmi based 5.1 surround setup. You get the fm tuner as well so you can listen to fm radio. The hd-5830 has a hdmi sound card built into it.

A decent wireless keyboard/mouse and try and find one that takes AA batteries.

 
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Oops, its actually $608.92 and that's with two hd-5830's. I forgot about the $20 cpu promo code that you have to enter.

Well a 3.4ghz phenomII quad paired with 2240 shaders is still pretty good for gaming.

It leaves cash left over for things like a new dvd-blue ray burner if you wanted, maybe a nice gaming/office chair? A decent sound system, a new joystick, maybe some new games on steam?

 
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The two 5830s are a pretty solid good buy.

I'd still for an Intel CPU though. It's worth the extra imo.

And that's before you factor in the fact that the AMD CPU has room for maybe a 20% OC, whereas the Intel CPU has room for a 50% OC (on average).
 
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The 5830's and the phenomII x4 makes a cpu-gpu matched system. pairing the i5 with the pair of 5830's wont be much faster.

Now you need a pair of 6970's or 580's to match the i5. But those cards are larger cards than the 5830 and wont work in that tiny case i picked out. so now you need a water cooling kit, gpu water block kits, much larger power supply and a mid tower case instead.
It pushes the cost up 3 fold, but that would make a nice system too.
 
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it depends on what games he is playing COD and bf series go to nvidia a oc'd 560 ti (950mhz) beats a stock 6970 at 1080p 1900x1200. usually the 6950 gets the really high resolution but the 560 ti usually gets 1920x1200 and lower. the 560 ti scales just as well as the 6950
 
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Jack stop posting the second 560 ti is 220$ because it is one rebate per customer. put in your posts for them to buy at amazon for the other one so they can get the second card for 220$
 
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I realise that it's hardly a reliable source, but recent articles on Toms on SLI and CF scaling suggest otherwise.
 
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cod, spore, WoW & diablo III when (if) its released
 
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Your budget is almost certainly overkill, then.

I suppose there's always "future proofing", though, so I'd recommend that you get a very strong base system, (CPU+RAM+Mobo) then a weaker GPU setup (maybe a single 560) that you can upgrade in a few years, when there are more demanding games that you want to play.

A 560 would roll all over the games that you mention at any sensible resolution.
 
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Solid point, I should have prefaced this as this system is actually being done for/by a friend of mine, who I tried to explain his thoughts were over kill
That aside I guess ill run with blibbas idea
Going on a build a with getting a case geared to watercool
And best CPU/board to handle gaming is it worth getting an amd am3+ board or just do an 1155 build get the 2600k
Sorry for diverging the thread but at that point is it worth getting 2133 RAM over 1600
Thank you all so much
 
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op: wait till bulldozer is out in a month so you can see which is better then choose
1600mhz is the way to go
watercooling is a total waste of money
 
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It doesn't look like Bulldozer is going to be much faster if at all faster than the 2600k in games. It'll be more of a parallel workload orientated chip.

And the 2600k is no faster than the 2500k in games.

The price difference for RAM faster than 1600MHZ is not worth it, no.

Watercooling is expensive and hasslesome, but worth it if you really must have silence and mega overclocking potential. You can easily achieve similar results with a bolt on watercooler for the CPU (e.g. Corsair H50/H60/H70) and a fancy aftermarket GPU cooler (many factory OCd cards come with these already fitted).
 
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There are no games out there today that will not run with decent framerates at 1080p on a phenomII x4 o/c to 3.6ghz and a pair of 5830's.

Trying to get more than the monitor's refresh speed is pointless.
The Hdmi 1080p signal is 60hz. so 60fps is your target. Having the gpu render at 200fps when the monitor is 60hz will only give you 60fps at the monitor.

Going to a faster system than that is like "needing" to putting nitrous on a Lamborghini.

 
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