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May 30, 2011 9:08:25 PM

I'm building my first gaming desktop and so far this is what I've got

Heres what I've picked so far:
CASE:
AZZA Hurrican 2000 CSAZ-2000 Black SECC Japanese Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HARDDRIVE:
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.C HDS721010CLA332 (0F10383) 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOTHERBOARD:
ASRock 890GX PRO3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GRAPHIC CARD:
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWER SUPPLY:
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM/MEMORY:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PROCESSOR:
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OPERATING SYSTEM:
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit 1-Pack - OEM

ADDITIONAL COOLING:
CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now how would this computer fair with recent high end games? Would it be able to run Crysis 2, Witcher 2 etc maxed out without any lag?

I'm also not entirely sure about the graphics card, I'm still deciding on

GIGABYTE GV-N570OC-13I GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

MSI R6970 Lightning Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

XFX HD-697A-CNDC Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

My budget for the graphics card is 300-400 not crossfire or SLI since my motherboard doesnt support 2 x 16 ports but later on I'll crossfire/Sli them

Since I'm looking to play high end games of today and the future at the max settings, which graphics card would you chose? Also if none of the ones I linked above are good enough my budget is 300-400 so let me know if there are other cards that are better
May 30, 2011 9:19:29 PM

I wouldn't spend top dollar for any graphics card. They get replaced so rapidly by new stuff and lose value quickly. An xfx 5770 was only $75 after rebate yesterday at newegg.com. It would run your games without any lagtime.
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May 30, 2011 9:37:45 PM

With a budget of $850 more I'd build a Sandy Bridge based system.

MoBo has only a 1 year warranty; industry standard = 3 years.

PSU bit oversized and CM is not where I'd invest my money

RAM can match those ram specs for $75

GFX - The 560 shaves off a lot of money with just a small drop in performance. Factory OC'd versions w/ better coolers can easily hit 1000MHz

Cooler - The Corsair H series get toasted by the Antec 620.....however these self contained water units have problems with x16 x16 boards if you change ya mind and go that way .... the radiator hits the GFX card in PCI-E slot No. 1

Case - $100 - Antec 902 V3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $100 - XFX 750 WBlack Edition PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $385 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - inc - Intel Core i5-2500K included w/ above
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $75 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $220 - EVGA GTX 560 Ti 900 Mhz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $100 - Win 7-64 Home Pre http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$220.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $0.44 - $0.51
$335.00 570 (524/873) $0.64 - $0.77

The 570 gets 27 fps in Metro 2033 ..... 560 Ti (900 MHz) gets 26 fps.....49 fps in SLI.

An upgrade to the Asus Z68 MoBo w/ the 2500k will cost ya another $40
An upgrade to a x16 x16 MoBo will cost ya $80

ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


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May 30, 2011 9:46:28 PM

I've settled on the GTX 580 as my graphics card cause I'm gonna be buying another one later on for SLI

in regards to the processor and motherboard, the intel i5 is better then the procssor I chose? the AMD phenom II x6?
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May 30, 2011 10:37:41 PM

its not so much about it being better arsenal the thuban is a good cpu and so is the i5 2600k they are on a "simmilar" performance level and price .

There is a little compatibility problem with SLI and those motherboards, If you want to use that graphics card in SLI you will have to go down the intel route ,hence why people are suggesting Intel cpus.
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May 30, 2011 10:43:36 PM

The hyper 212+ will perform similarly to the H60 but at half the price (29.99):
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coolermaster-Hyper-212-Plus-U...

For gaming the i5 is a much better choice and the current 8-series AMD chipsets don't support sli.

Here is an even better PSU than the one you listed for cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Why not just get windows 7 home premium?

Here is a great ram deal 8Gb 1866Mhz 79.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Better hard drive:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...

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May 31, 2011 4:45:48 AM

850W is too much for one 580, but probably not enough for two. Anyway, the 580 is above the ridiculous-price line. If I were you, I'd go with either one or two 570s in SLI, which an 850 can handle.
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May 31, 2011 4:49:01 AM

I would wait a couple of weeks before building your rig. AMD is about to release its new line of processors, and just released the chipset for it. I imagine (if they want to keep competitive with Intel) the processors will be much faster than its current lineup.
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May 31, 2011 6:33:04 AM

Yeah i changed the psu from 850 to 750 and will upgrade it later when the time comes i guess. ill be getting the 580 as im still not sure about the motherboard since ill want to SLI 2 580s later on
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May 31, 2011 11:03:44 AM

if you want to SLI you have to get a differnt motherboard .. that is a crossfire motherboard which doesnt support SLI
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May 31, 2011 1:23:23 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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June 1, 2011 1:57:05 PM

the i5 2500k (not i5 2600 as stated by synthiside) blows away amd's lineup.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=288
In gaming, the i5 has 50-80 % higher fps across the board! That is annihilation..
The gtx 570 would play crysis 2 on the highest settings at around 35 fps on 1920x1200 res according to anandtechs testing.. but 2 of them would do it easily. With an i5 2500k that is.. the amd processor will bottleneck the sli 570s. 2 gtx 560ti's will do the job too, but the differences will be found out in the future.. as said by jacknaylor.. however he also quoted the price of the gtx 560ti as being $220.. which it is.. after rebate. He quoted $330 as the price of the gtx 570.. before rebates. The gtx 570 can be found for $290 after rebate, and for $315 for a superclocked evga version after rebate. Furthermore, the fps comparisons are of an overclocked gtx 560 ti compared to a stock gtx 570. Thats like comparing a car with NOS to a car without NOS. The gtx 570 is a much stronger card.. even a highly overclocked version of it doesn't beat the gtx 570.. and if you want to compare the overclocked versions of each, the gtx 570 is still far ahead.. let alone at stock levels. The significance is, that you can't overclock the factory overclocked gtx 560ti as much as a stock gtx 570, so its not comparing apples with apples. Furthermore, the price difference is only $70, not $110 after rebates. That makes both cards good choices, and its up to you to decide... but id be giving you the actual, unbiased prices and data..apples to apples; not comparing an oc'd gtx 560ti and quoting the price after rebates to a stock gtx 570 without including its rebates!
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=306
gtx 560 ti vs gtx 570. Summary of the results is that the gtx 570 gives around 18% more performance for $70 more. Considering that the gpu is the major determiner of performance.. thats a total of about 7-8% extra on your budget of $850, giving almost 20% more performance. $70 to get 18% more fps. Considering you are spending around $800-1000, this may be very favourable in terms of a percentage increase in cost vs percentage increase in performance. You'd get a ratio of around 2% increase in perf. compared to 1% increase in cost

gtx 570 stock: $290 AR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gtx 570 superoverclocked evga lifetime warranty: $315 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
first is semi modular, both are excellent quality ; the first one is slightly more modern (last month release), the 2nd one is ($110) 2011 release.
Bothwill easily fit 2 gtx 570s, overclocked to the max, and an i5 2500k overclocked (MAKE SURE YOU GET THE i5 2500k.. honestly 1000x better than the top amd processor at the moment..). If you stick with the gtx 580.. well 850 w can squeeze it. 900-950 is optimum
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