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May 31, 2011 6:36:06 PM

hi guys this is my first time at building but im confident i can do it. iv found some components ie.....

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003V1O01A/ref=ox_sc...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0032ZGKJ0/ref=ox_sc...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002D11C6U/ref=ox_sc...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002MQC0P8/ref=ox_sc...


so the reson im here is im not sure what else as in what power suply, heat sink , grahics card and so on. my bugit is £500 maybe a bit more but im all ready up to £381 so any advice would be welcome

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a b B Homebuilt system
May 31, 2011 7:06:30 PM

Congratulations on your decision to build, it is the right one and it is quite easy.
If you fill out this then you will get much better help, much more quickly:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/261222-13-build-adv...

The other threads linked in this one sound like a good read for first time builders, maybe you would want to look through them to help make extra sure that you don't make any mistakes and it might answer some of the questions you may have:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/288241-13-faqs-buil...

I would also like to say that I'm not going to click all those links, so if you want any more of my help then I would like if you wrote down the model name next to each link, so that I don't necessarily have to click through to each page to see what parts you are thinking about. Alternatively you can wait for someone who is willing to click all those links.
May 31, 2011 7:45:34 PM

thank you silvune i will take a look at the links. i couldnt edit my list so here are the models..

CM 690

Intel i5-760 Core i5 Quad Core Processor ? 2.80GHz,8MB Cache,Socket 1156,

ASUS P7P55D-E LX - P55 Express - Socket 1156

Corsair TW3X4G1333C9A 4GB 1333MHz CL9 DDR3

Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1TB internal Hard Drive
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May 31, 2011 10:04:12 PM

i5 2500k
asrock p67 extreme4
this would be much better but is it still in your budget?
June 1, 2011 3:55:17 AM

peteski, you have to understand that NO ONE on toms will help you until you complete their build guide.

and many will question your choice of socket LGA 1156 cpu and motherboard.

will you be using this build for gaming?
June 1, 2011 5:57:37 AM

Approximate Purchase Date ; august / september


Budget Range: £500/£700


System Usage from Most to Least Important: all round multimedia

Parts Not Required: monitor speckers keyboard&mouse

Preferred Website(s) cheapist


Country of Origin: england


Parts Preferences: by brand or type/ the best for my buget


Overclocking: maybe


SLI or Crossfire: maybe


Monitor Resolution: not sure


Additional Comments: i just wont a all round good com build so i can sit back and say i built that.

thanks for any advice
a b B Homebuilt system
June 1, 2011 6:49:51 PM

The i5-750/760 is about the same price as the i5-2400 and you can get a socket 1155 motherboard for the same price as that Asus 1156 mobo. Seeing as Sandy Bridge is all round better than Lynnfield, so I think you might as well go for that. Another reason is that if you aren't gaming the i5-2400 has an integrated GPU which neither the i5-760 nor the Asus P7P55D-E LX have and the only Lynnfield CPUs which have iGPUs are dual cores.

I'm somewhat unclear whether you want to game with this build, so I'll just present some options:

Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz £150
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251595

For a non-gaming build:
Asus P8H67M LE Rev3 £78
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8h67-m-le-rev3-int...

For a gaming build with crossfire potential:
MSI P67A-C45 B3 £99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/261291

You probably won't be able to afford a power supply to crossfire straight away, unless you go right up to £700.
Antec High Current Gamer HCG-400W 80Plus Bronze £44
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/400w-antec-high-current-...
Altho a good ~500W PSU would be able to support two of the below:

HIS HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 £90
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264826

And about the best CPU Cooler below £20 is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus @ £19 if you do want to overclock etc
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-p...

~£40 for 4GB of RAM
£40 for Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
~£70 for CM 690 Original

Total: £380/510
(£380 without the graphics card and with the Asus motherboard)

Obviously if you really want to spend closer to £700 then some changes/improvements can be made.

Other good sites to buy stuff from in the UK include Aria and CCLonline.
June 4, 2011 5:38:09 PM

hi guys thanks for the advice. im not to botherd about gaming and if i was the games would be turn-based strategy.
any way iv got a while till i have all my Components the cpu will be first and i found this today what do you think....


Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K Unlocked Core i5 Quad-Core Processor
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad...

many thanks
a b B Homebuilt system
June 4, 2011 5:43:00 PM

Getting that would be beneficial for two reasons. 1. It is unlocked so you could overclock it more easily than a non-K. 2. It has the HD 3000 graphics rather than the HD 2000 graphics of non-K chips, so you have more potential graphics performance.
June 4, 2011 9:11:35 PM

thanks for the response silvune i think thats the cpu i will be buying. iv been looking at and readin the Manual for the MSI P67A-C45 B3 mb you suggested. something i dont get is this..........

Memory Support
4 DDR3 DIMMs support DDR3 2133*(OC)/ 1600*(OC)/ 1333/ 1066 DRAM (16GB
Max

i know what type of ram i need but at what mhz

many thanks

a b B Homebuilt system
June 4, 2011 11:46:21 PM

That means that to get RAM to run at 1600/2133MHz (above 1333MHz) you have to manually set it to be so in the BIOS/UEFI. Which was quite easy to do anyway with the old style bios, but is even easier with UEFI and Sandy Bridge's memory controller.

Another thing is that it is always possible to run RAM at a slower frequency than it is rated for. So you could buy 1600MHz RAM and by default it would run at 1333MHz on the MSI P67A-C45. But like I said, it would be really easy to set it as 1600MHz.

As for performances differences, 1600MHz is often see as the sweetspot because it is better than 1333/1066MHz, but doesn't usually cost that much more while being closer in performance to faster RAM which are usually much more expensive. However it is debatable that even choosing 1600MHz over 1333MHz will achieve any noticeable performance benefit.
Here are some reviews which explore the impact of memory speed and are relevant to Sandy Bridge systems.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-b...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-...

I think I would just go for the set that you linked in the OP because £32 is quite a good price for a set of 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 memory. Altho the difference between that and a good 1600MHz set will only be a few pounds, so if you feel it is worth it then it's up to you.

If you aren't going to buy a dedicated graphics card (at least straight away) then you will have to choose either a H series (H67) or a Z68 series chipset motherboard as the P67 series don't support video outputs that you'd require to make use of the integrated GPUs on Sandy Bridge chips. Z68 also has the advantage of SSD Caching, which would allow you to buy a small SSD (below 120GB in size) to help speed up some of your most often used programs - might be an idea for future upgradeability.
June 5, 2011 8:26:43 AM

thanks again silvune your knowledge is a grate help to me . you have definitely gave me something to think about MB wise.
i'll let you know how i get on and many thanks
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2011 1:02:59 AM

I like the Gigabyte, but whats the pricing?
June 9, 2011 5:12:38 AM

aznshinobi said:
I like the Gigabyte, but whats the pricing?


all the mobos are around the £100 mark
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2011 6:35:05 AM

Then the Gigabyte is the best option.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
June 12, 2011 5:15:24 PM

Both are good, but go with the one that is cheaper.
June 12, 2011 8:51:11 PM

aznshinobi said:
Both are good, but go with the one that is cheaper.


thanks again AznShinobi the cheapist out of the two is the GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 at £129.99 thats the one im starting to like the most but the P8Z68-V PRO is a sweet looking mobo but at £150 im not sure.....
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
June 12, 2011 10:31:52 PM

Not worth 150, go with the UD3HB3
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