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Should i sell GTX 580 SLI and get 590 SLI?

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March 22, 2011 1:41:49 AM

I just built a new gaming rig. Couple days ago with 2x GTX 580's, an i72600k and 16GB g.skill 1600.

I can still return the two gpus for full refund from where i got them, and go for two gtx 590s instead. Im sure ill just have to add about 600 bucks or so. (580s = 500 bucks , 590s = 800 bucks) give or take... blabla, anyways price and money aint an issue....

Im just curious if its worth it and if it will be stable?
I have a 1000 watt PSU by the way. 80 gold rating.

The reason im asking is because i heard the 590s will use 570 chips (2 of them in each card) is that true...

would performance be MUCH better then two 580s or no? is it even possible to sli 590s?

What should I do?
March 22, 2011 1:57:04 AM

I have my computer hooked up to a 52 inch lcd screen tv and i play game about 6 feet away.

I dont know much technical stuff.
Heres what the specs for my television say


•52" Diagonal Full HD 1080p/120 Hz LCD
•Native Panel Resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels
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March 22, 2011 2:34:20 AM

Honestly, I wouldn't. Scaling wih 2 GPUs is much better than with 4, and your resolution isn't that high.
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March 22, 2011 5:44:46 AM

Alright thanks for the replies.

Also quick question.

I heard nvidia said, they dont recommend people quad sli'ing the GTX 590s.
Do they mean simply putting two gtx 590s and using 4 gpus..... or do they mean using 4x gtx 590s and using 8 gpus..... ?

What did they mean?
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March 22, 2011 6:03:16 AM

So what killer game are you looking to play on your system anyway? You do realize that a SINGLE GTX580 will do pretty much any current game at >60 fps at max quality settings at that low frankly entry level resolution. If money really is no object, why don't you instead get rid of your current overpowered underutilised Nvidia gear altogether and go AMD EyeFinity and play on THREE of those screens. At least that would make sense. As they say, a fool and his money are easily parted.
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March 22, 2011 6:11:50 AM

I play games on that 52" LCD, right now metro 2033 and im waiting for crysis 2 to be available on steam..... but i play online poker on the same computer on 4 21 inch screens so i needed two cards to multitable better on four seperate screens instead of having a bunch of tables open on one.

Call me a fool but money not a problem for me. I was just asking for help here. I dont know too much about computers and just felt like building a decent rig to have some fun with thats all.
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March 22, 2011 9:16:36 AM

So you want to play Metro/Crysis 2 while simultaneously playing 4 games of online poker? Is that right? Dude, seriously no offence intended, but the sort of "help" you need can't be found on tech forums.
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March 22, 2011 9:37:33 AM

Show me where i said same time? Are you kidding me?
I said same computer not same time/same setup.
When i play games i take my computer down to my 52 inch tv which is in another part of the house, and when i play poker it goes back up to the office and is connected to four monitors.

Four monitors is the reason i got two cards in sli.
If you got nothing to contribute to the thread why answer it at all? Its amazing how people cant answer a simple question and instead start shooting opinions at what a persons computer build should be like and what products they should of went with "instead" lol.

My questions were 580s vs 590s.
What nvidia meant by its not good to quad sli them
and if my psu would handle them.

i didnt ask what kind of help i need and who i should of went with nvidia or ati or what i shouldve got blabla.... But then again your probably just one of those guys with a shitty ass computer who likes to "laugh" at the rich guys, because they got what you dont. :bounce: 
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March 22, 2011 11:39:07 AM

I say stick with the 580s until you get to a game you really like where you can't max out the details and get 60fps and above.

I'm pretty sure Quad SLI is the most you can go. Two 590s would put you at that limit.

http://www.slizone.com/page/slizone_faq.html
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March 23, 2011 1:59:41 AM

simply if you need 3d then yes upgrade to 590 sli if no stick wid 580
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March 23, 2011 3:38:20 AM

The real answer is that no one knows until the GTX 590 is released this Thursday March 24th. If money is no object, and you have the rest of the system to match up, then two GTX 590's will be top of the line, and give a boost over two GTX 580's. Scaling will not be perfect, but the four GPU's will certainly be better than two.

The GTX 590 will be two downclocked GTX 580 chips with the full 512 shaders each. It will also be able to run three displays off one card. Two GTX 580's will be faster than one GTX 590. Since Nvidia does such a great job with SLI implementation, expect the GTX 590's in SLI to only be limited by the rest of the system (as opposed to drivers or software limitations).
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March 23, 2011 4:19:41 AM

Ignore nitrium, hes a bloody tosser! Hes jealous cause you have so much money.

Ive got a question to tack on to yours matto and it just may interest you;

can you sli a 580 with* a 590?
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March 23, 2011 6:16:19 AM

I would be surprised if you could. It's impossible to say for sure until launch, of course, but I would be very surprised.
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March 23, 2011 6:39:58 AM

SLI is overkill for such a low resolution.
Since you want to run 4 monitors, an Eyefinity 6 card would be the saner choice. It lets you run up to 6 monitor with a single card.
But I'd ditch that 52" LCD anyway and make use of Surround or Eyefinity. Such a setup would actually 'justify' SLI or even Quad Sli.
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March 23, 2011 6:49:33 AM

Some people sure has some cash to burn.2 gtx 580 is already an overkill.If you want to spend money,buy something else.Or give it to charity.Most games are not demanding at all.Thanks to consoles.Many are bad console port and will run like a crap regardless of your hardware.Only few games genuinely require graphics muscle.Eg. Just cause2,BFBC2,upcoming BF3,Upcoming elder scroll skyrim.Frankly most top games uses heavily modified unreal engine.ME2,3,Batman arkham asylum to name a few.
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March 23, 2011 8:11:06 AM

I read an article where it says you can not sli 2 590. If that was true then you all missed it.
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March 23, 2011 8:44:41 AM

ionut19 said:
I read an article where it says you can not sli 2 590. If that was true then you all missed it.

Give us the link?
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March 23, 2011 8:54:20 AM

Or was that GTX 460 2Win ?
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March 23, 2011 1:59:36 PM

kommando kodiak said:

Ive got a question to tack on to yours matto and it just may interest you;

can you sli a 580 with* a 590?

I'm going to strongly suspect the answer is 'no'.
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March 23, 2011 2:14:10 PM

17seconds said:
I'm going to strongly suspect the answer is 'no'.

I agree with Matto on this one. Though they can have different clockrates and brand names, cards in an SLI configuration depend on the same models having the same amount of RAM on them. I'm thinking the 590 will pose a problem with regard to the memory portion of the equation.
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March 23, 2011 8:37:14 PM

Dang, i was hoping for a 5970 + 5870 crossfire combo
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March 23, 2011 9:58:48 PM

kommando kodiak said:
Dang, i was hoping for a 5970 + 5870 crossfire combo

I'm pretty sure you can do that.
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March 24, 2011 7:49:16 PM


yes you can, but i meant that type of combo between the 580 and 590s, as long as the base memory and processors are the same i dont see why it couldnt, 512 and 1.5gb of ram check and check
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March 24, 2011 9:18:18 PM

ubercake said:
I agree with Matto on this one. Though they can have different clockrates and brand names, cards in an SLI configuration depend on the same models having the same amount of RAM on them. I'm thinking the 590 will pose a problem with regard to the memory portion of the equation.


The memory shouldn't pose a problem actually. The "3GB" GTX 590 is 1.5 GB per GPU (and the memory is divided up, so each GPU has 1.5 GB dedicated). The 580 is also 1.5GB. This is why trifire between a 2GB 4870x2 and a 1GB 4870 works.

I still don't think 580/590 Tri-SLI will work, but the memory isn't the reason.
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March 24, 2011 11:12:52 PM

dang they really ARE BLOWING UP

so much for nvidia having the best drivers eh :p 
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March 24, 2011 11:46:50 PM

cjl said:
The memory shouldn't pose a problem actually. The "3GB" GTX 590 is 1.5 GB per GPU (and the memory is divided up, so each GPU has 1.5 GB dedicated). The 580 is also 1.5GB. This is why trifire between a 2GB 4870x2 and a 1GB 4870 works.

I still don't think 580/590 Tri-SLI will work, but the memory isn't the reason.

Now that they're out, I'm pretty sure they're running only with one 590 or 2 590s. Anyone know for sure?
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March 25, 2011 3:04:08 AM

Just over the course of release day, Nvidia has already come out with a new GTX 590 driver that has fixed many of the issues reported on the previous driver used in the early reviews.

On Hardware Heaven, they switched to the new driver for a 6990 OC vs. GTX 590 OC showdown:
"Today NVIDIA released their updated driver, 267.84 and we have taken that, 5 recently released games (including Crysis 2, BulletStorm and Shogun 2) and tested at 1920x1080 and 5760x1080 with the 6990 and GTX 590 overclocked to their limit."

"it is clear that there are significant benefits to be had from running the GTX 590 at its limit. When AMD sell their card it is running close to maximum and so overclocking doesn't add much. With the GTX 590 we saw the framerates jump significantly as we moved up around 100MHz on core and memory. The end result was a card which competes far better with the 6990 and in cases such as Crysis 2 and BulletStorm the GTX 590 is the faster of the two... Crysis 2 by a huge amount."

"With the latest driver and running at the maximum performance when compared with the 6990 we are happy to report that the GTX 590 now feels a lot more like it is priced appropriately. We get exceptional performance, improved drivers, cooler operation than the competition, significantly quieter operation too..."
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1140/pg1/point-of...
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March 25, 2011 2:42:37 PM

Let me ask you all this.

I only use one video card in my system (AMD 965 processor, 16GB RAM, 2x350 GB HD RAID 0).

My question is: I recently purchased a GTX 580 and it runs great, but I can return this 580 to where I bought it and purchase a GTX 590.

My resolution is 1920x1080 on a 24" HDMI monitor.

For you experienced people, would you upgrade to the GTX 590?
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March 25, 2011 7:19:00 PM

Welcome to the forums.

If that means paying only the difference from 580 to 590 personally i would do it, a 580 is 500 and a 590 is 700 witch are 2 580 on one board for 200 more. But that's only if you have money to spare and does not require any sacrifice from somewhere else, and you have the PSU to sustain the power draw and also thinking of not upgrading for a few years because for that resolution is overkill in most games.

Wait for others to post their opinion too if you want.
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March 25, 2011 7:32:24 PM

camocavz said:
Let me ask you all this.

I only use one video card in my system (AMD 965 processor, 16GB RAM, 2x350 GB HD RAID 0).

My question is: I recently purchased a GTX 580 and it runs great, but I can return this 580 to where I bought it and purchase a GTX 590.

My resolution is 1920x1080 on a 24" HDMI monitor.

For you experienced people, would you upgrade to the GTX 590?

The question is whether the performance upgrade is enough to justify the $200 additional cost. My sources (techpowerup.com) are telling me you would get about a 25% boost in performance at your resolution for an additional 40% in cost (provided you have a good CPU). That's actually not a bad ratio.

The big question is, do you need it? For me, at 1080 resolution, I can game out at full maxed settings with no problem. And then there is also the noise hit. While the GTX 590 is pretty quiet, it's still a little louder than the GTX 580. I'm going to say this is not going to be a problem.

Therefore my choice would be, if you can afford it, get the GTX 590. If not, no big deal, keep enjoying the best single GPU money can buy.
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March 25, 2011 10:14:14 PM

Thanks for the info!!!
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March 26, 2011 6:44:24 PM

nitrium said:
So you want to play Metro/Crysis 2 while simultaneously playing 4 games of online poker? Is that right? Dude, seriously no offence intended, but the sort of "help" you need can't be found on tech forums.


It seems to me that someone who consistently insults a poster rather than answering the questions posted might also benefit from the kind of "help" to which you refer.
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April 11, 2011 2:49:15 PM

GTX 590... I am disappointed in this card as the 6990 is faster... and better in my opinion... It's quieter than the 6990, but isn't Nvidia supposed to be the nuclear powerplant of videocards? The GTX 590 overclocked to max stable speeds barely keep up with a stock 6990(not even in OC mode)... and over clocking the switch brings it even further away...

I have a GTX 580 and love this card so much I picked up another one. I also game on a 42 inch LCD. With 4XAA, I am able to set V-Sync on Crysis and NOT dip below 60 FPS. Maintaining 60 FPS on Crysis looks AMAZING with no tearing...

Local stores have both the gtx 590 and 6990 for $800. For another $200, I say do it the right way and get the best possible setup If u can afford. A GTX 570 SLI or 6970x2 will get you better performance for value, but with two GTX 580's, that is the best SLI combination or better than any dual gpu card period......

Advantages being CUDA, Physx, and each DVI connector is DVI-D Dual Link for 120HZ or 3d... and for 3d, Nvision is the best supported now...
I am waiting for a 27 inch 120 hz display............

Referring to Dadiggle, get another gtx 580 if u want the best performance or stick with one gtx 580 for that 1080p resolution at 60fps.... Do it right and go all out or stick with that fastest single gpu solution and you should be satisfied...
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April 11, 2011 3:49:49 PM

Personally, I would just stick with gtx 580 SLI... That should be able to run anything you want it to, anyway.

On a different note: I wish I had your computer. :p 
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