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I tried making it as clear as possible...



What I want out of my computer/what I will be using it for:

I will be using my computer for HD video editing with Sony Vegas(Would like fast rendering times) ,Playing games like the Witcher2 & BF3(Battlefield 3) ,would like to play on highest setting possible or close to it.


Other Question:

1)If I got another GFX card(making it 2) would I be able to use the same power supply or would I have to upgrade it ?
2) Missing any thing ?Suggestions. Could you link me to a few products that I don't have that would suit my set up preferably by amazon.
3)

What I have now:

600w power suppply
GFX Card
HDD(Have)
DVD Drive(Have)


Need(Not sure if im missing any thing else):

Mother Board($100-$250)
Processor:i5 or i7
Case(No idea)
RAM(Getting 8gbs)


Message edited by helps on 06-03-2011 at 11:07:11 PM
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If I need to post anything else let me know. Thank You

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Questions: A) What resolution will you be playing at?
B) Budget?
C) New or Old i5/7?

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mgf derp wrote :

Questions: A) What resolution will you be playing at?
B) Budget?
C) New or Old i5/7?



A)1920x1080
B)Lets start with $400-$500 ?
C)New

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list the parts you already have please

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mjmjpfaff wrote :

list the parts you already have please



What I have now:

600w power suppply
GFX Card
HDD(Taking from dell)
DVD Drive(Taking from dell)

I have a dell inspiron 560 . Right now.


Message edited by helps on 06-04-2011 at 03:23:34 AM
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i5 2500k 225$
this mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product -155$ or the asrock p67 extreme4 for 160$ which i recommend
case- whats your budget for it after the ram motherboard and processor?

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mjmjpfaff wrote :

i5 2500k 225$
this mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product -155$ or the asrock p67 extreme4 for 160$ which i recommend
case- whats your budget for it after the ram motherboard and processor?



Is this the board you are talking about amazon or newegg ? I was planing on getting this RAM that would work right ?I would have about $100 maybe $200.

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ya that is the mobo i was talking about and that ram is fine it will work

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mjmjpfaff wrote :

ya that is the mobo i was talking about and that ram is fine it will work



Is there any thing else I need ? What kind kind of case would be good ? Thank you.


Message edited by helps on 06-04-2011 at 05:42:04 AM
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first can you return that psu?

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mjmjpfaff wrote :

first can you return that psu?



Yes, got it a few days ago.

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ok do that grab one with 4 6-pin connectors like this one- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
also for the case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product this one has great cooling and i really dont like the haf series so this is a good option.

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mjmjpfaff wrote :

ok do that grab one with 4 6-pin connectors like this one- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
also for the case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product this one has great cooling and i really dont like the haf series so this is a good option.



This is what I have so far from what you have given me will I need anything else to get going? Cooling? Thanks Again

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 139-021-_-
GFX CARD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DKWLB4
Mother Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157229
Processor: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Proces [...] 515&sr=8-1
Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820178265
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
HHD: Have One
Dvd: Have one
Mouse: Have one
Keyboard: Have one
Monitor : Have one

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Can I make a few suggestions? If so:
RAM-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145343 Same speed but runs at 1.5v which I hear is what Sandy Bridge perfers(Correct me if I am wrong so I learn)
Case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129079
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811235027
A couple of quality case that are all cheaper then the InWin and all roughly the same size as well as included the same amount of fans or more. Just to added more choices to the pot. Personally the CoolerMaster 690 would be my choice as they are massive inside.
And the last suggestion would be the i5 2500k instead of the i7 2600k. Saves $100 at a little drop in performance seeing as you game. Plus you could use the savings to invest in a high performance cooler and overclock to make up the difference still saving money. Coolers such as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065 an Intel guy posted in another thread that the 2500k will usually do 4.5ghz with that cooler

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mgf derp wrote :

Can I make a few suggestions? If so:
RAM-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145343 Same speed but runs at 1.5v which I hear is what Sandy Bridge perfers(Correct me if I am wrong so I learn)
Case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129079
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811235027
A couple of quality case that are all cheaper then the InWin and all roughly the same size as well as included the same amount of fans or more. Just to added more choices to the pot. Personally the CoolerMaster 690 would be my choice as they are massive inside.
And the last suggestion would be the i5 2500k instead of the i7 2600k. Saves $100 at a little drop in performance seeing as you game. Plus you could use the savings to invest in a high performance cooler and overclock to make up the difference still saving money. Coolers such as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065 an Intel guy posted in another thread that the 2500k will usually do 4.5ghz with that cooler



Thanks for the recommendations.

Does the ram I listed make a big difference than the one you listed ?It ends up being a little more than mine.Thanks for the case & fan!

Changes:

Same

Cost


$160 Mother Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157229
$110 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
$40 Fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065
$225 Processor(i5 2500k): http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Proces [...] 515&sr=8-1
$60-100 Ram(not sure): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
$80 Case(going with this one as it has lots more reviews, Thanks): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119216
$150 GFX CARD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DKWLB4
HHD: Have One
Dvd: Have one
Mouse: Have one
Keyboard: Have one
Monitor : Have one


Message edited by helps on 06-04-2011 at 11:11:37 AM
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$40 Hyper 212+?
Does that seem a little expensive to anyone else? It's normally $30. There are plenty of great $30 coolers out there. I'd look on Amazon to find this same one for $30: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] 057&sr=1-1

$160 Motherboard? Why? Is it gonna do anything the OP needs better than the $130 Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] 057&sr=1-1
There might be a small max OC difference, but I don't think $30 is worth it.

$225 i5-2500K? It's easy to find for $210 on Amazon. Just pick your seller.

$80 Case? Maybe, mine is...but why not the $60 Haf 912? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119233
The $40 Thermaltake V4 isn't bad if you're on a budget http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133179

$110 Corsair TX750 V2? It was $75 two weeks ago. I got a TX850 (V1) for $90 last year (currently $120). He's running a GTX 460 SE so 650W will run two of those in SLI. Why are we recommending a $110 PSU? This $69 XFX Modular 650W 80+ Bronze PSU should get the job done: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817207007
If you must have more power (becuase you're selling your graphics cards and upgrading to dual GTX 560Ti's?), this $90 Antec EA750 will do: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371026

RAM: You do video work. Get 8GB of RAM. Newegg will email you a deal for $75 G. Skill 1600CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3. Just wait a week and they'll have a deal. Keep an eye on slickdeals because they sometimes have extra tips. Get two sticks of 4GB, not 4 sticks of 2GB--it runs faster, typically.

I recommend you keep an eye on slickdeals.net and get on Newegg's email list. Find a PSU deal and RAM deal.

There, I saved you $30 on the mobo, $40 on the PSU, $10 on the fan, $16 on the CPU, & $20 on the case. That's $116.

That would buy you a second GTX 460 SE...but I wouldn't do that...I'd return/sell back the first one and get a GTX 460 1GB. They had them at $120 at multiple locations last week. Or use the savings and the returned graphics money to get a $190 GTX 560Ti.

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Earlier someone recommended a P67 motherboard. That was a very irresponsible suggestion. The OP said he does video work and it's a travesty to bind him to P67 and disable Quicksync when Z68 is available for the same price with no missing capabilities.

 

I'm curious what people recommend in terms of more expensive Z68 motherboards. It's my personal stance that if someone's not a hardcore overclocker, any Gigabyte, ASUS, ASRock, or MSI board will do. I think the $130 Gigabyte Z68 w/ Virtu on Newegg is good enough.


Message edited by dalauder on 06-06-2011 at 06:32:07 AM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 833-5.html As quicksync currently only works with the two programs in that review a Z68 mobo is not necessarily going to be better to get a Z68 over a P67 because if the op doesn't use either of those programs he could be potentially wasting money. Not saying there is no potential future worth to Z68 as quicksync is more widely adopted just not at this moment.

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dalauder wrote :

CPU: $208 i5-2500K If you click on "40 new from" and choose your seller, there's one for $202.99 + 4.99 shipping. All sellers on that list are selling that same item.

PSU: I'm glad you decided to get a better PSU. I was a little worried when I saw that. Make sure it's 80 Plus rated. And go for Antec, Corsair, Seasonic or XFX if it doesn't have a really great thorough review (example: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.p [...] y&reid=218 )

They're recommending kinda expensive parts for you in the other thread. Ask them how a cheaper case like a Thermaltake V3 or Antec 300 Illsuion would do (especially if you add fans to the Thermaltake).

Also, there's no reason you need better than the $130 Gigabyte ATX Z68 here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128502
If someone says otherwise, at least ask why, because it'll save you $30




Moving post from other thread so we just have one thread. Im getting a little confused cause people are saying different stuff ...


To late to cancel the PSU,RAM & case. But I can still change the processor and get it for $207,the motherboard for $130 & the fan for $30. Save $58. What do you think of this ? Anything I should change now? Read other post I know I paid quite a bit for the PSU but cant change it,also for the gfx card I didnt pay $150 I got it for $115,thanks for the savings .Thanks for the responds.


Bought:
$110PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139021
$80Ram : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231311
$80 Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119216

Total:$270

Need:

$207: Processor(i5 2500k): http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Proces [...] 515&sr=8-1
$130 Mother Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128502
$30 Fan: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] 057&sr=1-1

Total: $367

Grand total: $637

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helps wrote :

Moving post from other thread so we just have one thread. Im getting a little confused cause people are saying different stuff ...


To late to cancel the PSU,RAM & case. But I can still change the processor and get it for $207,the motherboard for $130 & the fan for $30. Save $58. What do you think of this ? Anything I should change now? Read other post I know I paid quite a bit for the PSU but cant change it,also for the gfx card I didnt pay $150 I got it for $115,thanks for the savings .Thanks for the responds.


Bought:
$110PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139021
$80Ram : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231311
$80 Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119216

Total:$270

Need:

$207: Processor(i5 2500k): http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Proces [...] 515&sr=8-1
$130 Mother Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128502
$30 Fan: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] 057&sr=1-1

Total: $367

Grand total: $637


The parts you have listed to buy look very solid and if they fit into your budget I would say go for the purchase. This will produce a very capable gaming machine especially if you overclock the 2500k and GTX 460SE

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mgf derp wrote :

The parts you have listed to buy look very solid and if they fit into your budget I would say go for the purchase. This will produce a very capable gaming machine especially if you overclock the 2500k and GTX 460SE



Thanks for the responds. If I get another GFX card, GTX 460 SE(dont think I can get newer one and connect them think its called SLI ?) will the performance go up much , is there A site I can look at bench marks to compare them ?

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You have the power suppply to support SLi (yes that is what it is called for Nvidia cards) and yes the performance will increase. In order to SLi you would need to get another GTX 460SE, I am rather certain you could not SLi with a GTX 460 1Gb/768mb. But you dont need to have a EVGA GTX 460SE any brand will work as long as it is a GTX 460SE. Hope this helps.

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mgf derp wrote :

You have the power suppply to support SLi (yes that is what it is called for Nvidia cards) and yes the performance will increase. In order to SLi you would need to get another GTX 460SE, I am rather certain you could not SLi with a GTX 460 1Gb/768mb. But you dont need to have a EVGA GTX 460SE any brand will work as long as it is a GTX 460SE. Hope this helps.



Thanks It did help. Was just wondering for the future, The cards went up to $150 so if I did get another one I would wait for it to drop in price.

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The parts you have listed look good to buy.

As MGF Derp said, Quicksync may not be world changing in every program today...but it probably will be by the next release of any of these programs.

With a 750W PSU, you can SLI GTX 470's or GTX 560Ti's. You'd have to look into it, but maybe even GTX 570's. You can also crossfire 6970's. I know those aren't the graphics cards you have, I'm just letting you know what you could do in the future.

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