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June 3, 2011 10:49:55 PM

hi,
i have recently posted a thread on a new pc and have been recommended the following setup but would like to pass it through some others before i start the build :D 

----cpu----
AMD Athlon II X3 450 3.2GHz Socket AM3 $118.82
should i wait for the new processors ?

---mother board---
Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 $172.26
any pros/cons or recommendations ?

---ram---
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 PC10666/1333MHz CL8 $89.00

---hardrive---
Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD502HJ 16MB 500GB $66.09

---case(s)---
Antec Three Hundred 82.82
or maybe a
Cooler Master HAF 922 . $187 (is it worth getting something fancy like this?)

---DVD---
Lite-On iHAS324 DVD 31.25

---graphics---
Sapphire Radeon HD6870 (11179-09) HDMI Dual-DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1GB $335.02
how does this compare to the HD6850? and why are there so many like 6850 made by gigabyte and also by asus?

---powersupply---
Antec High Current Gamer 520W psu $118.28
is there any benefit of getting a 550W or above psu?

---monitor---
any difference in these two ?
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=599439 or http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=712999
will i be able to connect a macbook pro to these ?

heres a link to my old thread just in case http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/312314-31-first-build...

thanks :D 

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June 4, 2011 1:31:38 AM

an i3 2100 build would be more powerful and where are you from? 6870's are worth 180$ not 335$.
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June 4, 2011 2:06:14 AM

MJ is right, the Intel Sandybridge platform kills the AMD on price/value right now. If you want to stay AMD wait and see if Bulldozer lives up to its hype. If it does you have an upgrade path. If it doesn't you are buying a white elephant.
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June 4, 2011 2:39:19 AM

Is it possible to unlock the i3?
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June 4, 2011 3:26:46 AM

no you can only get a 500mhz oc out of it which gives you somewhat of a performance boost
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June 4, 2011 4:12:29 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
no you can only get a 500mhz oc out of it which gives you somewhat of a performance boost


btw im from NZ, so with the possibility of four cores should i go with the x3?
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June 4, 2011 4:16:40 AM

you mean unlocking the x3? even unlocking it the i3 2100 is much faster.
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June 4, 2011 4:25:21 AM

ok :D  umm so is my mobo good for the i3 2100?
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June 4, 2011 4:29:51 AM

No, you'd have to make a complete swap to the Sandy Bridge platform. Look for an H67 motherboard. Also, I would like to know what's up with the price. Is that converted to USD?
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June 4, 2011 4:33:54 AM

will you crossfire those 2 6870's ever?
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June 4, 2011 4:36:23 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
will you crossfire those 2 6870's ever?

whats that lol :p 
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June 4, 2011 4:44:16 AM

it is getting 2 cards that are the same (ex. 2 6870's) and it improves your performance a lot. but you have to do it like 6 months or at latest a year from now because technology is movin so rapidly. so im guessin you arent
mobo- get the asrock p67 pro3 so you can oc your processor a bit
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June 4, 2011 4:47:19 AM

striker410 said:
No, you'd have to make a complete swap to the Sandy Bridge platform. Look for an H67 motherboard. Also, I would like to know what's up with the price. Is that converted to USD?

its in NZD not USD
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June 4, 2011 4:50:43 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
it is getting 2 cards that are the same (ex. 2 6870's) and it improves your performance a lot. but you have to do it like 6 months or at latest a year from now because technology is movin so rapidly. so im guessin you arent
mobo- get the asrock p67 pro3 so you can oc your processor a bit

yea im probably not gunna do that, is my set up future proof as in will it last me like 2 years without being 'too slow' to run the latest stuff?
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June 4, 2011 6:10:54 AM

ok so if i switch the mobo and cpu to an i3 1200 id be running faster in terms of gaming? and how well will my gpu be doing in this setup?
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June 4, 2011 6:16:47 AM

That GPU is just dandy. As for the CPU, you will see a BIG boost in performance. Here's a benchmark: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/189?vs=289 (pay attention to higher is better/lower is better) as you can see, the i3-2100 clearly outperforms the x3 450.
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June 4, 2011 6:26:27 AM

oh i was talking about the phenom btw but i think its the same story
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June 4, 2011 6:35:57 AM

yeah, even unlocked to a Phenom 925 the i3-2100 is still faster.
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June 4, 2011 6:59:07 AM

Striker many of the hard ware options in the US are not available in New Zealand .

If it is available its listed here www.pricespy.co.nz
Its a bot checking the online retailers

The original build suggestion in this thread is mine and its still the most relevant , I think .
The OP said he had a $1000 NZ , and wanted a gaming machine
The motherboard is Am3+ , so its perfectly upgradable to a bulldozer cpu when they become available .
Yes an intel build could be faster in some non game situations and perhaps especially at lower resolutions , but the prices here dont relate that well to US dollars .
Currency fluctuations mean the sweet spot is a lot different here .
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June 4, 2011 7:06:53 AM

Outlander_04 said:
Striker many of the hard ware options in the US are not available in New Zealand .

If it is available its listed here www.pricespy.co.nz
Its a bot checking the online retailers

The original build suggestion in this thread is mine and its still the most relevant , I think .
The OP said he had a $1000 NZ , and wanted a gaming machine
The motherboard is Am3+ , so its perfectly upgradable to a bulldozer cpu when they become available .
Yes an intel build could be faster in some non game situations and perhaps especially at lower resolutions , but the prices here dont relate that well to US dollars .
Currency fluctuations mean the sweet spot is a lot different here .


true
i3-2100 http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=805977 $170
mobo- http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=789412 $167

opposed to

x4 http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=422706 $174
mobo--$172

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June 4, 2011 7:38:58 AM

Actually, if you look at the benchmarks the i3-2100 beats all of AMD's offerings, even the 975 IN GAMING. Where they tend to be upset is when heavy multitasking is put into effect.

And since the i3-2100 is actually cheaper, it's hard to justify and AMD build right now.

For upgradability, the LGA 1155 is most likely going to be around for years, at least until Ivy Bridge.

Not to pick a fight but I think you are pushing your build simply because it's yours.

Try to give OP the best advice possible, there's real money being thrown around here.
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June 4, 2011 7:44:09 AM

striker410 said:
Actually, if you look at the benchmarks the i3-2100 beats all of AMD's offerings, even the 975 IN GAMING. Where they tend to be upset is when heavy multitasking is put into effect.

And since the i3-2100 is actually cheaper, it's hard to justify and AMD build right now.

For upgradability, the LGA 1155 is most likely going to be around for years, at least until Ivy Bridge.

Not to pick a fight but I think you are pushing your build simply because it's yours.

Try to give OP the best advice possible, there's real money being thrown around here.


thanks for the advice, both of u. so if i change the mobo and cpu to the ones i have previously stated, ill be good? how about a higher psu?
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June 4, 2011 8:16:10 AM

striker410 said:
Actually, if you look at the benchmarks the i3-2100 beats all of AMD's offerings, even the 975 IN GAMING. Where they tend to be upset is when heavy multitasking is put into effect.

And since the i3-2100 is actually cheaper, it's hard to justify and AMD build right now.

For upgradability, the LGA 1155 is most likely going to be around for years, at least until Ivy Bridge.

Not to pick a fight but I think you are pushing your build simply because it's yours.

Try to give OP the best advice possible, there's real money being thrown around here.


Compare apples to apples . The build I suggested is a lot cheaper . It uses a $118 processor . Id have happily included a quad if it had fit the budget of $1000 NZ.

You have blown that budget if all the other hardware stays the same . Yes , in some situations the system you are recommending is better . But then it should be . It costs more . It costs more than the OP's budget .

Id say if anyone is pushing a build its probably you .
Intel change sockets with each generation.... as the people with socket 1156 just found out

The OP's budget is roughly in line with the Toms system builder $500 build . With a little extra for higher quality parts , maybe .

And as I told the OP depending on the resolution of your monitor you down grade the graphics and use the money to upgrade the processor

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June 4, 2011 2:39:09 PM

mussie said:
could i ask one of u to check out these ?
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_in...

and

http://www.extremepc.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_...

are these considerably cheap?


I'm not totally sure what the prices are like over there, but it would appear that those are OK builds. The biggest issue is the 5770. I would suggest something a bit stronger for the maximum gaming muscle, something like the 6850.

However, the second one is not a bad deal at all in my opinion. If it were me, I'd still build a PC myself. It's all up to you.
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June 4, 2011 7:53:14 PM

Yea me 2 , since im going with an intel uild should i concider nvdia?
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