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June 6, 2011 3:16:07 AM

this is my build so far , i was wondering .. i dont game much at all, maybe cod 3 times a month, is it worth getting a graphics card like that ? or should i spend the money on an i5 or even i7 build with a graphics card just simply enough to play on hd, and crossfire in the future?

----cpu----
i3-2100
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=CPUIT2100&name=...

---mother board---
asrock p67-
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MBDASR0505&name...(Revised-B3-Stepping)-In

---ram---
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 PC10666/1333MHz CL8 $89.00

---hardrive---
Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD502HJ 16MB 500GB $66.09

---case(s)---
Cooler Master HAF 922 . $187

---DVD---
Lite-On iHAS324 DVD 31.25

---graphics---
Sapphire Radeon HD6870 (11179-09) HDMI Dual-DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1GB $335.02

---powersupply---
cooler master silent pro 600w-http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=312041

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June 6, 2011 3:21:11 AM

If your not building this for gaming, then what is your main desired use of this computer? And what is your budget set at for this build? As for when you game at what resolution is it at?
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June 6, 2011 3:40:49 AM

$1000 NZD, really for daily use really , occasional gaming on modernwarfare, HD and like RA3 want it to be quick and also crossfire when i get more time to game in the future
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June 6, 2011 4:22:47 AM

This is a budget build, so the 2100 is appropriate.

I suggest you get a Z68 based motherboard.
Use the graphics capability of the 2100, at least at first.
It is suitable for movies, and some games. If you find that you want more, then you can add a discrete graphics card of suitable power.

Secondly, consider the cache capability of a Z68 based motherboard in combination with the 500gb hard drive.
Get a small SSD, of 20-32 gb which will act as a cache.
Here is an example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram is cheap, Is that a 8gb kit of 2 x 4gb? If so, good. No need for fast ram with sandy bridge, and fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing.
For multitasking, you want lots of ram.

I think I would get a psu from Corsair, XFX, Seasonic, Antec, or PC P&C instead. They cost no more, and are known to be of good quality.
How many watts is determined by your planned graphics configuration. 600w is enough for all but the hungriest single graphics card.

Get the haf 922 if you absolutely love it. Cases are a personal thing. But you can get a nice Antec 300 for half that which will work very well.

Do you really need a full ATX motherboard and a large case to put it in?
A Micro-ATX motherboard will usually be a bit cheaper, and 4 expansion slots usually more than you need.
There are some very nice micro-atx cases out there.

Take the time to download and read the motherboard and case manuals before you order. Many questions will be answered.

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June 6, 2011 4:54:00 AM

I agree with geofelt on most notes. I however would suggest an H67 motherboard instead of a z68. Why? Price and featureset. Z68 costs significantly more for features that you most likely won't use (unless you use the SSD caching geofelt suggests).

I also would say 4GB is fine, you can add anothe 4GB if you reallllyyy have to in a year or so. I game on 4GB and never see it go about 3GB.
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June 6, 2011 7:23:23 AM

but..shall i take out the gpu? maybe i5 or i7?
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June 6, 2011 7:31:56 AM

i7 is not needed for regular gaming really, but if you can pile in more then go for it.
In my honest opinion, i5-2400 or i5-2500k is best for gaming if you can fit into your budget.
If you dont plan to on buying a SSD later (i dont think 60% people will buy it at all) then go for a H61 motherboard.
But after seeing the high prices in New Zealand, i think your setup is good for the price.
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June 6, 2011 7:39:14 AM

sync_nine said:
i7 is not needed for regular gaming really, but if you can pile in more then go for it.
In my honest opinion, i5-2400 or i5-2500k is best for gaming if you can fit into your budget.
If you dont plan to on buying a SSD later (i dont think 60% people will buy it at all) then go for a H61 motherboard.
But after seeing the high prices in New Zealand, i think your setup is good for the price.


even with the gpu at $300? i mean i know i probably wont need it much as i dont game much so should i get like a $100 gpu and i5-2500 which will come to about the same price. there i will have the option to upgrade (crossfire) in the future if i need but also will have a strong processer
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June 6, 2011 8:22:14 AM

sorry double posted.
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June 6, 2011 8:38:20 AM

Gamer-girl said:
depends on what resolution you are playing, how much are you willing to turn down the settings?

Which cod are you talking about? What about MW3 and later? Any other games?


I tweaked it a bit to fit a quad core:
http://pricespy.co.nz/product_list.php?do=lista&k=36748


nice :D  so is this build crossfireable and able to play mw2 mw3 on hd and crysis(to show off lol) but i like the build u posted thanks :D 
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June 6, 2011 9:08:35 AM

I don't think you can get a crossfire compatible build with the budget, the only motherboards with a 2 pci-e lanes (x8,x8) are $250+ and to crossfire 2 5770 cards require a 650w power supply (around $200).

Will it play MW2? yes. MW3? probably but I don't think they have announced the system requirements yet. As for crysis http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/10/13/am...
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June 6, 2011 2:19:14 PM

The 2100 is a surprisingly capable cpu, even for gaming.,
Read this article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...

SLI/CF is totally unsuitable for the casual gamer, and even the more serious gamet.
A single strong graphics card will game all day at 1920 x 1200 resolution.
Only if you will plan on triple monitor surround gaming, or plan to use a $1000 2560 x 1600 monitor might dual cards be appropriate.
Don't spend more to enable SLI/CF.

The lowest priced Z68 micro atx board costs $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The lowest priced H67 costs$80:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The lowest P67 costs $110:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can add a discrete graphics card to any of them, and you must add that cost to a P67 board since it does not enable the graphics capability of the 2100.
For the lowest cost, look at the H67 board, but a Z68 gives you the addded option for SSD cacheing.

For normal desktop usage, a SSD is the biggest performance option you can buy.
The option of the Z68 ssd cache is faster than any hard drive, but not so fast as a pure ssd. It will also cost less, and is a decent compromise for a value build.
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June 7, 2011 2:05:23 AM

yes the 2100 is a capable cpu, but he did say he doesn't game very often. A quad core would be better overall.

crossfire is unsuitable, true if you are buying two cards to crossfire now. But what if 1-2 years from now you realized that the latests games are running too slow? would you rather spend $100-$200(used card) or $500-$600 (usual price of second fastest single gpu card i.e. 570gtx) - because you added the serious gamer in there.
mussie being a casual gamer doesn't need that.

The cheapest z68 board here costs $300 (not counting "intel" boards), twice the price of the board i suggested.

- please not this is for New Zealand no U.S.
your logic might be true for U.S. buyers but not NZ. Everything is more expensive here (15% GST, smaller market, less competition). Even used parts are quite expensive to the point that buying a used-last gen card from an auction site is around the same price as buying the same card new from newegg including shipping(even $30usd shipping). Why? because items under $400nzd including shipping is not taxed.

BTW for those that do not realise I live in new zealand. Think of the budget more around $500usd.
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June 7, 2011 2:41:37 AM

No need to take out the graphics card, you never know what game might come out that you want. Keep what you have
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