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June 6, 2011 4:31:22 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: in a week or two

Budget Range: 800

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, internet, music, video editing

Parts Not Required: I have nothing

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences:intel

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: no

Monitor Resolution: unsure

Additional Comments: I have a 40" hdtv so if needed I can hold off buying a moniter and use the tv for now to put more money to the computer. I have no preference on the processor but I am having a hard time convincing my dad to let me make an amd build so if you can can you also post a seperate amd build just incase I am able to convince him.

This is what I am thinking so far.

sandy bridge is-2100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

samsung 22x cd/dvd burner

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

samsung spinpoint 1tb 7200rpm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

g.skill (2X2gb) 240-pin ddr3 sdram

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus P8H61-M (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair builder series Cx500 v2 500w

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire 100297L Radeon HD 5830 !gb 256-bit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Challenger black gaming atx mid tower

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 6, 2011 4:42:27 AM

Nice job! I have a few suggestions.

-Nice pick on the ram. However, h61 cannot run at 1600Mhz. Get the 1333Mhz ram, it will be just fine and save you $6

-Save a bit on that PSU, look for deals on the Antec 380w. It's a cheaper, more efficient PSU and gives you all the power you will need.

-change the case to a Haf 912. $50 from amazon and a bit nicer I think.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It's only $10 more after rebate.

And that wraps up my recommendations! Go with a Sandy Bridge build, AMD cannot compete at this pricepoint.
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June 6, 2011 5:02:45 AM

Based on the following three performance tests I will suggest some possible build ideas that would fall into your budget range. http://www.techspot.com/review/305 [...] page7.html, http://www.techspot.com/review/336 [...] page5.html, http://www.techspot.com/review/405 [...] page5.html
CPU- Intel Core i5 2400 $190 or Intel Core i5 2500k $225
GPU- Nvidia GTX 560Ti $240 or AMD Radeon HD 6950 1Gb $240 Or Higher if possible
Motherboard- P67 ASRock Extreme 4 $160 Z68 Gigabyte UD3P $160 Depends on your connection needs, perfered brand (if any), and style choices
PSU- Single card- Corsair CX600 V2 600w $70 or Silverstone Strider 600w $70
Multicard- Antec Earthwatts 750 750w $90
RAM- 4Gb GSkill Ripjaw X DDR3 1333mhz $47
8Gb GSkill Sniper DDR3 1333mhz $80
Case- Really subjective hear. A few personal picks
CoolerMaster HAF 912 $60
Zalman Z9 Plus $70
CoolerMaster CM 690 II $80
CoolerMaster Storm Scout $90
NZXT Tempest Evo $110
NZXT Phantom $140
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Prices Lowest- $767 Highest- $922
Add a HDD and DvD drive to the lower priced build and you will have a very nice Intel based gaming rig. If you want the links to work check this thread as they are the same links http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...
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June 6, 2011 5:03:08 AM

We've had this discussion before. By the way, did you actually read your links? the i3-2100 has a better score than the 955 in nearly all gaming tests.
Also, LGA 1155 going to be around for quite a while. AM3+ will also, but I think we can safely say the 2100 is a better bet right now than the 955. It's cheaper and faster.
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June 6, 2011 5:04:19 AM

Agreed with Striker
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June 6, 2011 5:27:44 AM

striker410 said:
We've had this discussion before. By the way, did you actually read your links? the i3-2100 has a better score than the 955 in nearly all gaming tests.
Also, LGA 1155 going to be around for quite a while. AM3+ will also, but I think we can safely say the 2100 is a better bet right now than the 955. It's cheaper and faster.



Actually the Phenom is cheaper
and in the test of sub $200 cpu's the Phenom is a clear winner in gaming performance too


Combining a 2100 and an H series board is pretty dead end unless you want to build a home theater PC next year

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June 6, 2011 5:47:49 AM

Outlander_04 said:
Actually the Phenom is cheaper
and in the test of sub $200 cpu's the Phenom is a clear winner in gaming performance too


Combining a 2100 and an H series board is pretty dead end unless you want to build a home theater PC next year

Ah, I now see the 955 is $5 cheaper.
However, Just as MGF linked, the 2100 is a clear winner.

And have you been reading the tom's articles? The next gen Ivy Bridge CPU's are going to use LGA 1155. It's a capable platform that won't go away for a bit. Honestly at this point you are blowing smoke.
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June 6, 2011 9:37:05 AM

mgf derp said:
Outlander if your are referring to this Sub $200 test http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor... then you can see the i3 2100 beats the 955 and the i5 2400 I recommended clearly beats all competitors



Thats a comparative chart with yet another processor . Check the gaming benchmarks . More often than not the phenom is the faster cpu
I agree though that if you have the budget for it then a 2400 is a great idea

and striker you should practice your counting . The Phenom is $10 cheaper
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June 6, 2011 10:18:47 AM

@ Outlander _04
The i3-2100 beats even the 1050T and 955 in gaming and i think its the best for him

@OP
i definitely think you should get a discreet graphics card, i don't think the integrated GPU will suffice much of your gaming needs, although its fine for viewing HD content and movies.
You could get decently cheap deals(less than 100 bucks) of picking up used gfx cards on Ebay
I certainly suggest a gtx 260 (you should get it easily as most people are selling them) or gt 450 or 440 for Directx 11. For AMD you can go for the old 4800 series which are good.

I think this should be good enough
Combo
i5-2500k + Mobo+ RAM+ PSU+ Case+HDD+DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
+
GPU
6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total cost = $750

a decent 19 inch monitor is for $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
so if you are willing to put in another $100 then go for the monitor ortherwise manage on the 40 inch TV screen till u have $50 more to buy a monitor.
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June 6, 2011 3:08:39 PM

Outlander_04 said:
Thats a comparative chart with yet another processor . Check the gaming benchmarks . More often than not the phenom is the faster cpu
I agree though that if you have the budget for it then a 2400 is a great idea

and striker you should practice your counting . The Phenom is $10 cheaper

Whatevs.

As for the continued debate of 2100 vs 955, Here's ANOTHER benchmark supporting my claim: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=289 Look at the bottom. IN BOTH GAMES the 2100 outperforms the 955 by a significant amount. Honestly, I'm struggling to find a benchmark that gave you the delusion that the 955 is better.
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June 6, 2011 3:25:47 PM

One more additional comment before I feel that this thread is getting way off topic is that the op's budget is $800 which is more then the appropriate price range of either the 955 or 2100 imho. At $800 we are in i5 2400 or up territory where AMD currently has nothing to compete. Just a thought, but this thread needs to get back on track. Sync_nine's combo find is a good build idea although I would recommend a higher end gpu and wait out the monitor. The build I threw up used either a 6950 or 560Ti which are a level above the 6870 granted I couldn't squeeze a 2500k into my build (I was also lazy and didn't look for combo's). Again just my .02 hope it helps
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June 6, 2011 3:29:43 PM

Ah, you are correct. I will stop with the debate.

Keep in mind however, he has nothing. It's a scratch build. That means Windows 7, Keyboard and mouse. That basically makes this a $650 build. I do however agree that we SHOULD be able to squeeze in an i5-2400 and a nice GPU, like a 6870 or GTX 560.
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June 6, 2011 3:39:04 PM

O yeah I forgot Win 7 cost money to other people (Got/get it for free from college I go to xD) so Striker you are correct ~$650 is more appropriate.
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June 6, 2011 4:02:56 PM

Build 2.0
I5 2400- $190
MSI P67A-G45- $133 SLi/CFX Onboard USB 3.0
Adata 4Gb (2x2Gb) DDR3 1333- $42 or
GSkill Ripjaw X 4Gb (2x2Gb) DDR3 1333- $47
Silverstone Strider Essentials 600w- $70 or
Antec Earthwatts 750w- $90
Westren Digital Caviar Blue 500Gb- $45 Get one thats Sata 6Gb/s capable
XFX Radeon HD 6870- $188 or
Asus Dcu GTX 460 1Gb- $170
CoolerMaster HAF 912- $60
Total= Highest/Middle/Lowest $753/$715/$710
So not exactlly $650 but I also didnt enclude combos or dicounts (anyone got codes) also all prices are Newegg so if you look around (Amazon/Tiger Direct) or if you live near a Micro Center you could shave some expense (especially if you live near a Micro Center)
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June 6, 2011 4:06:40 PM

That looks pretty good. I will however state that there are cheaper mobo's out there, although not SLI compatible.

get the cheapo $40 ram. It's just as good.

Don't worry about a 6GB/s HDD. it's a marketing gimmick. No HDD can saturate the bandwidth on Sata II anyway.
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June 6, 2011 4:13:36 PM

Yes but the marketing gimmick only costs a dollar more and then you can claim you have 6Gb/s xD. There is also the Gigabyte Z68 D3 (close to that) that is $120 and SLi capable. Just thought the MSI with its fancy front USB 3.0 compatibility would be a good choice.
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June 6, 2011 4:25:02 PM

Well if I use the tv, I was thinking 600 for the computer, 100 for the os, 30 for keyboard and mouse, 10 for shipping, and 50 for a nice pair of speakers or a game.
I do like the ideas coming in so keep them coming. Also I do believe I listed the i3 2100 and not that other model. I think I will stick with the i3 to put more money to other parts.
Also, will a psu include all of the cables I need and will the case include the fans I need.
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June 6, 2011 4:52:26 PM

Depends on the case. Newegg has how many fans are included with it under the details part of its product page. As for the i5 2400 we were just trying to maximize your performance within your budget. If you decide to go i3 2100 then I suggest you see if you can put potential savings/left over budget into a better gpu. There are ways to make a i5 2400 work it just you'll have to shop around a bit and hunt for deals. Such as getting this case http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Tower-interior-chassis-CS... instead of the CoolerMaster HAF 912. I personally like NZXT cases alot. And you could use EVGA Backstock http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20 to get a GTX 460 768Mb for $120 only thing is it comes with a 90 day warrenty instead of the usual 3 year. I have two GTX 460 from backstock a 1Gb and a 768Mb and both have no problems, are currently overclocked very high and show no signs that lead me to believe they are of lesser quality. Those two changes alone net you a $60 savings bringing you to almost $600. Just my .02 hope it helps. O and you get to keep getting the i5 2400
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June 6, 2011 5:17:36 PM

I agree very much. However, it's more important to have a powerful GPU than a powerful CPU. With that in mind, I'd suggest the i3-2100 with an H67 (or that nice Z68 derp posted) board, and get a nice GPU, like a 6870 or 560 (no ti).
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June 6, 2011 6:56:56 PM

Good combo. However, don't get the 550ti. If you get anything less than a 6850 or GTX 460, that 2500k will be held back. no reason to get the 2500k unless you plan to overclock.
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June 6, 2011 7:00:40 PM

usbgtx550 said:
I am now thinking about scraping my build and going with one of newegg's diy pc combos and through in a video card.
This is what I am looking at.
Core i5-2500K/P67 Gaming SuperCombo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

PNY VCGGTX550TXPB-OC GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Darn I was going to recommend that DIY combo but thought a custom parts list could yield better results. Any ways that combo is very nice and would be an excellent build but just one thought. instead of the 550Ti I would get a GTX 460 768Mb for about the same price instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... as it out performs the 550Ti by a far enough margin http://www.techspot.com/review/405-the-witcher-2-perfor... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-550-ti-... and will overclock about just as well as the 550Ti. Just my .02 hope it helps. And darn you Striker you beat me to it lol.
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June 6, 2011 11:40:52 PM

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