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Duel 6970, 570s, or one 580

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September 1, 2011 4:50:34 AM

title, answer the question and why, with evidence ;) 

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September 1, 2011 6:58:35 AM

What is this, a homework assignment?
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September 1, 2011 7:17:20 AM

There's everything in benchmarks do your own homework adrennn
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September 1, 2011 8:17:41 AM

Easy answer for me is one GTX 580. You don't have to deal with the problems associated with a dual GPU setup: heat, drivers, and game compatibility. Plus, one 580 will play every game out there, if not completely maxed out, then at least with the vast majority of eye candy turned on.
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September 1, 2011 11:12:25 AM

Answer = GTX580
Evidence = Experience
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September 1, 2011 11:26:23 AM

I would much rather go for 2 x 570s. That would piss over 1 x 580. I have never had problems with 2 cards and have used sli with 7800 gtx, 8800 gtx, gtx 280 and 480.
It does depend what resolution you play at. if it going to be less than 1900x 1200 then onw card would probably do the trick. So long as you have well ventalted case or wter cooling 2 cards should be fine. I haven't played a game where I have had problems with sli but a few friends have had problems with xfire.
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September 1, 2011 12:43:29 PM

Even the aging GTX 460 is faster or as fast as the GTX 580 in most benchmarks. Like said however, there is the matter of micro stutter that may or may not rear it's ugly head, and driver issues. Your best bet is to do some googling and see what others have encountered with the setup you're looking to get and with the games you want to play.
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September 1, 2011 1:31:18 PM

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@ bipedal disaster: hmm i think you have your mind up somewhere........

since when does a gtx 460 come near a 580 or even a 480 for that matter.
if you are going to comment like this please provide correct evidence.
which i know u wont find.....

I think he mean't 2 x 460 in SLi
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September 1, 2011 1:31:59 PM

I meant sli yes sorry :) 
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September 1, 2011 1:50:36 PM

go with the single card (580),, it may not be the fastest setup, but will give you the most ease of use across all games,, also Tom's just had an article on microstuttering,, another reason to avoid SLI unless you run high end cards. (may not be noticeable on 560's or 570's,, but why take a chance if you'll be happy on 1 580)
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September 1, 2011 2:03:24 PM

adrennn said:
title, answer the question and why, with evidence ;) 

I almost skipped over this thread since it had 14 responses. Unfortunately everyone is out to lunch on this? Where have you guys even been recently?

the Best decision is clearly crossfire 2x 6950's :)  It's TAD above your price range, but slaughters everything everyone is suggesting.

You can't really relate anything to a 580 the card is a standalone in terms of value. It beats any high end card (excluding the 6990, and 590 obv), costs more, but loses to any sli or crossfire high end cards.

It's like saying should I eat 2 six inch subs or buy the 8 inch sub from subway(I do wish they had 8 inch subs).

The 6950's are rather amazing with crossfire scaling with multiple benchmarks. If you plan on playing at 1080p get the 2gb version.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/305?vs=299
WATCH THE SLAUGHTER

I have these cards, they are top notch for what you're paying.

edit: If you posted this in the Graphics // GPU section, everyone would be agreeing with me except mousemonkey since he's an nvidia advocate.
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September 1, 2011 2:14:39 PM

How am I supposed to know what to choose when almost everyone gave me a different answer...? ._.
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September 1, 2011 3:00:16 PM

adrennn said:
How am I supposed to know what to choose when almost everyone gave me a different answer...? ._.


If you go to the Graphics section instead of CPU. Crossfiring 570's is a waste because of limited VRAM. 6970's cost to much for the performance boost vs the 6950s.

The 6950's are amazing price for performance in regards to crossfiring.

Notice every one who said 580 had the reason of "it's just easier, even though it's worse" I guess they don't want the labour of putting in a second GPU and a crossfire ribbon.. (takes 30 more seconds..)

edit: also I wouldn't suggest crossfiring a 6870 or below or SLI'ing a 560ti or below because of microsuttering :)  Toms hardware just published a huge (18 page or something) article regarding this.
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September 1, 2011 3:02:51 PM

why can no one google search 6970 crossfire benchmark
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September 1, 2011 3:05:11 PM

dhicks19 said:
why can no one google search 6970 crossfire benchmark


It's unnecessary to pay that much more from what you get from the 6950's. Having 6950's in crossfire is powerful enough for ANY game out right now max settings at 1080p full tilt, so long as you have an I series quad core. Sandy bridge or not
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September 1, 2011 3:13:17 PM

jonnyrb said:
If you go to the Graphics section instead of CPU. Crossfiring 570's is a waste because of limited VRAM. 6970's cost to much for the performance boost vs the 6950s.

The 6950's are amazing price for performance in regards to crossfiring.

Notice every one who said 580 had the reason of "it's just easier, even though it's worse" I guess they don't want the labour of putting in a second GPU and a crossfire ribbon.. (takes 30 more seconds..)

edit: also I wouldn't suggest crossfiring a 6870 or below or SLI'ing a 560ti or below because of microsuttering :)  Toms hardware just published a huge (18 page or something) article regarding this.



I have a single GTX580 Asus Direct CU model, and it can play all my games including Arma 2 Operation Arrowhead at max view distance and max settings at my Dells 27" native resolution of 2560 x 1440, this is why i recommend it, nothing to do with labour time, anything more gpu wise is surely overkill especially for 1080p.
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September 1, 2011 3:17:03 PM

Uther39 said:
I have a single GTX580 Asus Direct CU model, and it can play all my games including Arma 2 Operation Arrowhead at max view distance and max settings at my Dells 27" native resolution of 2560 x 1440, this is why i recommend it, nothing to do with labour time, anything more gpu wise is surely overkill especially for 1080p.


To be blunt, a single 6950 will suffice at 1080p for now. But everyone wants to be future proof and play games at 16xmlsaa with depth of field and ambient occlusion...

p.s. I'm jealous of your cinema display. I'm just going to ghetto eyefinity with my 6950's for a legit 5760 x 1200, awkwardly enough this method is cheaper.
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September 1, 2011 4:35:53 PM

I suggest getting a single 2Gb 6950 and see if you feel you really need another one its a powerful card on its own and if you get the second one later it will only be cheaper.
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September 1, 2011 5:53:57 PM

Adrenn, do you want power & speed or easy power & speed?

a single 580 will be a very good option for you and you wont have to worry about sli/crossfire issues, microstuttering, extra heat from spacing 2 cards, extra power requirements from a bigger PSU,,,etc etc

if you want most possible graphical power,, a dual card setup will get you there, but you have to take in to consideration the above issues and some/most of them are unavoidable and you are taking a chance,,,if you are inexperienced with PCs, it is not the best option ( I know it is not difficult to set up the system,, but it can be difficult to diagnose issues you may have as 1 problem can be caused from a combination of several factors)
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September 1, 2011 8:19:42 PM

monkeysweat said:
Adrenn, do you want power & speed or easy power & speed?

a single 580 will be a very good option for you and you wont have to worry about sli/crossfire issues, microstuttering, extra heat from spacing 2 cards, extra power requirements from a bigger PSU,,,etc etc

if you want most possible graphical power,, a dual card setup will get you there, but you have to take in to consideration the above issues and some/most of them are unavoidable and you are taking a chance,,,if you are inexperienced with PCs, it is not the best option ( I know it is not difficult to set up the system,, but it can be difficult to diagnose issues you may have as 1 problem can be caused from a combination of several factors)

You have to start somewhere :)  Building a computer is no different than Lego for adults. It's really not to difficult. Crossfire and SLI have been around long enough that the issues are nearly none existent if at all prevalent in most games (granted you're not running a quad gpu setup or something...)
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September 1, 2011 8:55:54 PM

here's some linky's on what i'm talking about avoiding,, not something for the inexperienced user to setup.
Microstutter:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...
This one has quite a few setups against one another to compare the difference between what you are looking at
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1488/1/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-revie...

These are all about SLI/Crossfire Scaling etc - not as important but I can't find the article with 1 good card vs 2 lesser cards - except the last article
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scali...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-crossfire-nvidi...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-sli...
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September 1, 2011 9:59:04 PM

Hi, I'm the guy who invented the video card.

For the best bang for the buck get two HD 6870.
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September 1, 2011 10:20:01 PM

But I hear that AMD is more unreliable, breaks often, ect. ect.

Why should I get the 6970 when this says the 580 is most powerful, wouldn't that mean the 580 would be best SLI? (I don't know much about GPUs)
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
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September 1, 2011 10:50:55 PM

Basically Adrennn, I think you have realized this, and this is what it comes down to:

Performance
1.2 x 6970
2 x GTX 570
2 x 6950
GTX 580
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September 1, 2011 10:50:55 PM

Basically Adrennn, I think you have realized this, and this is what it comes down to:

Performance
1.2 x 6970
2 x GTX 570
2 x 6950
GTX 580
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September 1, 2011 11:06:16 PM

Any of the suggested setups will serve as a top tier choice for gaming at resolutions up to 1920x1200. Basically Adrennn, I think you have realized this, and this is what it comes down to:

Performance
1. 2 x 6970
2. 2 x GTX 570
3. 2 x 6950
4. GTX 580

Cost
1. 2 x 6970
2. 2 x GTX 570
3. 2 x 6950
4. GTX 580


Dual GPU Setup

Pros
- Top performance

Cons
- Higher price
- More heat
- Higher power usage
- Possible stuttering
- Game compatibility (some games will only use one of your two GPUs if they do not support SLI or CrossFire)
- Possible stuttering

Single GTX 580

Pros
- Cheaper
- Plug and Play (ease of use)
- Just as futureproof (can add another later if desired, and if you have a good enough PSU)

Cons
- Less performance
- High price for single card
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September 2, 2011 3:40:20 AM

Ok, I think I should go with a 580 because I don't have the money to go dual right now, and won't for some time, do you think that will be ok?
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September 2, 2011 3:44:37 AM

Another quick question, what would a dual 580 setup be able to do?
Also, would I be better off getting a 6970 and saving up for another?
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September 2, 2011 8:58:07 AM

it will be able to turn into skynet and destroy the world
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September 2, 2011 4:14:45 PM

But I don't have the money to go crossfire right now, what should I do?
Options
-Get a 580 and save for another over a long period of time
-Get a 6970 and save for another
-Get a 6950 and save for another
-get a 570 and save for another

which of those has the best performance
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September 2, 2011 5:07:17 PM

GTX 570 2.5gb or 6950 2gb or 6970 2gb is my recommendations.
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September 2, 2011 6:17:19 PM

id say 570 and save for another
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September 3, 2011 4:05:57 PM

adrennn said:
But I don't have the money to go crossfire right now, what should I do?
Options
-Get a 580 and save for another over a long period of time
-Get a 6970 and save for another
-Get a 6950 and save for another
-get a 570 and save for another

which of those has the best performance


6970 out performs 6950 obviously, but for the price point it doesnt even matter. The 570 is limited by vram, I wouldn't suggest it unless your playing at 720p

I'm using a 6950 and playing Dues Ex right now on High settings --> No issues at all. Other than the fact that I keep right clicking to aim instead of middle mouse :( 
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September 3, 2011 4:10:59 PM

" The 570 is limited by vram, I wouldn't suggest it unless your playing at 720p "

Im sorry sir but the above is a rather ridiculous statement as the 570 is in no way limited by vram as it has over a GB of very good DDR5 vram and is more than capable of gaming at 1080p on high settings with any game you throw at it.
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September 3, 2011 5:17:20 PM

Uther39 said:
" The 570 is limited by vram, I wouldn't suggest it unless your playing at 720p "

Im sorry sir but the above is a rather ridiculous statement as the 570 is in no way limited by vram as it has over a GB of very good DDR5 vram and is more than capable of gaming at 1080p on high settings with any game you throw at it.


Go play APB on ultra textures lol
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September 3, 2011 5:21:15 PM

What is APB?
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