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processor:intel i5 2300
motherboard>any you suggest (with price)or any compatible
graphic card:nvidia geforce gt430(any other suggestion)
ram:4gb ddr3
hard disk:500gb
 
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Look for an H67-based mainboard...Asus, MSI, ASRock, Gigabyte

Normally, the i5-2400 is only $5 more cost than the i5-2300, making the 2400 the logial choice for minimal added expense....

If for gaming, I'd start my graphics card search around a GTX460(1gb) or GTX560, do not get an 'SE' version with cut down memory bus....

HDDs are pretty low cost up thru 1 TB in capacity.....
 
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So this is a budget gaming computer?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638451
$197.99 Athlon II X2 250/GeForce 7025 SuperCombo 4GB DDR3 1333 Memory kit and 500GB HDD included!
Plus: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161338
$94.99 after mail-in rebate card HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Free DIRT3 game coupon
-And a dvd-rw of your choice.

OR: http://www.newegg.com/Produc/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.644166
$519.50 Core i5-2500K/P67 Gaming SuperCombo
-Plus: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102940
SAPPHIRE 100328L Radeon HD 6770 1GB $109.99 after mail-in rebate card
And buy a second hd-6770 later so you have 1600shaders in crossfire.

The 6xxx series crossfires better then the older 5xxx and 4xxx series so don't get the bit cheaper but just as fast 5770 for this system since the board is a crossfire board.
 
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how about intel 's main board,are they good...
as far as i-5 2400 is concerened it's not available in our country,otherwise i was going with that,however,i will check again...

for need4speeds
i am sorry but your answers are quite confusing,may be it's my english......sorry again and thanx.


 
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The systems are combo deals, if you click on the link a page comes up at newegg,
You will see it's the case, power supply, board, memory, hard drive, cpu. Basically a whole system and you just add a video card like the hd-5770.

You can buy a cheaper amd system with a open pcie slot in most places, paired with a hd-5770 or hd-6770 it should work and play games well for a cheaper system.
 
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@muzamalasif--Please fill this out: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

It will provide us with the information we need to give you informed suggestions.

In general, full kit combo deals are bad because they try to sneak a bad part (such as dangerously bad PSU or slow HDD) into the combo. There are exceptions, but I'm betting you can't buy from Newegg anyways. Two item combos are regularly solid though.

Why NVidia GeForce? It's no better than Radeon. Here's a quick rough graphics comparison chart: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card-game-performance-radeon-hd-6670,2935-7.html
 
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i am sorry to fill out form,as i don't have enough time (not the rude way).
can you tell me?
does all nvidia 4** cards support direct x 11?if not then which support?
which 2** support it?
are all gtx better than all gts and all gts better than gt?
 
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now i have time till this saturday

Approximate Purchase Date: (this Saturday)


Budget Range: (e.g.: 500$(in our country this is 50000 Rs (pakistan)and things are quite low price) Before / After Rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)


Parts Not Required: (e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers,) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: any pakistani site would be appreciated,otherwise any -- to show us selection & pricing)


Country of Origin: (e.g.: i don't know what does this mean but pakistan)


Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to use an intel CPU and nvidia graphics)


Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe(what does this mean)


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution: (1920x1200)


Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC)
 
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-Don't build a computer for folding@home, build one for your uses.

I run folding@home in winter only, since in winter i use cheap hydro-electric power for heating anyway, the computers running give off heat so that power is not costing me anything.

In summer however, the heat will fight with your air conditioner costing you even more. Your computer can also overheat in summer.

Folding@home is mostly for people to run in winter that use electric heat in winter.

If you have coal, diesel, or nuclear power, then don't run folding@home at all.
Your power rates will be higher with that kind of power and it's bad for the environment.
 
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i am sorry to say but i don't even know what is folding at home,i forgot to remove it,BTW can you tell me what is it and other terms i said i don't know...please........ :( :( :( :(
 
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Hi muzamalasif, I'll try to help out with that form a bit. The "(e.g. Folding@Home, gaming...)" section just intends to show an example. Overclocking (Google Search will answer most questions): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking. So your responses would typically be more like this:

Approximate Purchase Date: this Saturday, June 18th

Budget Range: 50000 Rs (Pakistan) (about $580 US)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet


Parts Not Required: mouse, monitor, speakers, Windows 7


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: any Pakistani site would be appreciated,otherwise any -- to show us selection & pricing

Country of Origin: Pakistan

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU

Overclocking: Maybe in the future

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, but I don't want to buy a big Power Supply (PSU) for it

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC


@muzamalasif--edit my above responses to match your needs because I was guessing. Please do some research yourself to find some websites that ship to Pakistan. If you do more yourself, we will do more to help when we see it is important to you. Also, why NVidia over Radeon? If you can't tell me a reason, then why do you have a preference?
 
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added to your quote
now suggest a pc
 
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Wow, prices aren't crazy high on either of those websites for CPUs, but galaxy is cheaper. I'm not included shipping in my prices.

CPU: 11,200R i3-2100 http://www.galaxy.com.pk/cpu.htm

Motherboard (Mobo): 7000R ASUS p8h61-M LE http://www.galaxy.com.pk/motherboard.htm

RAM: 5,000R CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 4GB-1600BUS 4GX1 @ 5,000R http://www.galaxy.com.pk/memory.htm

Graphics: 17,700R Radeon HD 6850 http://www.galaxy.com.pk/ati-graphic.htm
I know you said GeForce, not Radeon, but the GeForce prices are way too high and they aren't as good of cards for your money. Considering you can't tell me one reason you want a GeForce over a Radeon, I'm ignoring your request. Radeon HD 6850 v GeForce GTX 460: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/291?vs=313

Hard Disk Drive (HDD): 5,700R WD 1000GB 7200rpm drive http://astron.com.pk/index.php?route=product/product&path=75_78&product_id=212

Power Supply (PSU): 9,000R ANTEC CHASSIS SIX HUNDRED SE WITH EA500W POWER SUPPLY http://www.galaxy.com.pk/pc-case.htm
Do not get a cheap PSU, it will kill your other parts.

Case: 0R Included with Power Supply

DVD: 1,700R LG DVD-RW http://astron.com.pk/index.php?route=product/product&path=24&product_id=344

TOTAL: 57,300R

It's a bit over your budget, but it's all I could do. If you plan on playing games, I don't think you should go cheaper than that on the video card because it's the most important part.
 
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awesome,but some questions
is cosair and lg good/well-known for memory and drivers,i was considering a SONY drive. :??:
how about cooler master PSU,are they good?
and sorry to say but i was planning to upgrade my VGA card later with someone's giftand after i got good marks in my exams.any card for 10000,as that's maximum i can afford right now...
is i3 OK for gaming as someone on tombraiderforums told me that it is for office use not gaming.
 
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Corsair is pretty much the top memory brand. Mushkin is up there with them. G.Skill, OCZ, & Kingston and some others I'm forgetting are good as well. But most memory is fine. It's not as bad as hard drives or motherboards where some are just bad.

LG is generally a pretty good electronics company. I've never heard of a DVD burner that doesn't work and the general consensus is the cheapest one is best--brand doesn't matter. Sony's fine too, but not worth any extra money.

Coolermaster makes a lot of bad PSUs.

Get an Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, or Silverstone PSU. Antec Basiq (the BP and V- codenames) aren't as good as typical Antecs.

If you have a specific part you think is better than what I recommended, post it and I'll let you know.

Don't spend this much on a new computer when your primary focus is gaming and not get a gaming graphics card. If you spend less than 10,000, your card will really hold you back.

If you're not gonna get a decent graphics card, just skip the graphics for now. Your Integrated graphics can almost (almost, not quite) keep up with something terrible like a GT 430.

i3 for gaming: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
Yes, the i3-2100 can game. The i3-5XX aren't nearly as good and use a different motherboard.

You can't go much cheaper on parts than I'm recommending since the websites you gave me don't have AMD parts. If you go cheaper, you'll have to get a dangerously bad PSU.

I made a mistake on the RAM above. I said two of that RAM. I meant one. It has been corrected. That could be swapped for 4GB (2x2GB), but I'm trying to leave you a free ram slot for a future upgrade for the same price.
 
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what about GTS 450?is it better than i3-2100 and even i5-2300,referring to graphics of these?
hey,i wanna ask something,i3 have HD graphics but not i5 so,i3 is better in graphics(integrated)?as on intel site...
AMD processors aren't used in our country much just intel is on high list?
are things CPU GRAPHICS CARD really cheaper in our country?
does cooler master have good casing?
 
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2nd Gen i3's, i5's, and i7's have Intel HD 2000 Graphics. The K Version i5-2500K and i7-2600K have Intel HD 3000 Graphics.

The GTS 450 is significantly better than either of these cards, but a mediocre gaming card at best. I cannot recommend it. You should aim higher if you're building a new computer.

Coolermaster cases are just fine, but the combo I suggested is the only way to get a decent PSU for that price on the websites you gave me.

AMD processors can't match the new Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs. But they're cheaper, which is what you need. Like I said, you should wait a month and save something in the Radeon 6850 range (GTX 460 range). DO NOT GET a GTX 460 SE. It is NOT a GTX 460.

Parts are cheaper in the U.S. on Newegg.com. But your prices are only 20% higher or so, which is better than I was expecting.
 
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thnaks,i will try about graphic card...i am a student and can't save anything without a prize that atleast isn't gonna be before october.... :( :( :( :D :( :( :( :( :( :(

well the prices on those sites i gave are a little much higher than in market....
i will try to get gtx or 6*** card(ati).....
 
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