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Which one is better on games geforce 8400 or geforce 210?

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March 27, 2011 7:50:43 PM

Hi guys. Before you say that both of the cards are the crappiest card that has ever existed and will only handle MS minesweeper i just want to let you know that i am aware of that =P

But which one is better on games like tf2, hl2, and other games?

And which one can handle most without die by overheating??
a b U Graphics card
March 27, 2011 9:12:13 PM

Geforce 210 is much better for games than geforce 8400 gs, also is made with better technology (40 nm) so it uses less power. I´ve had a Geforce 210 DDR3, and I could play even crysis on medium-low, I´ve also had a 8400 gs, and noway to play crysis with it...
a c 171 U Graphics card
March 28, 2011 1:25:33 AM

you played crysis ok on a gt210? are you sure? do you like playing at 12fps? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gt-220,2445... the gt210 would probably be a little faster. Do you have any other options? how about ATI 5450? its better than the cards you mentioned and about the same price. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5450,2549... It should play HL2 well. I would strongly suggest getting a little bit extra money together and getting an ati 5570, you will be much happier with it.
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March 28, 2011 2:05:15 AM

ATI 5570 or even better 5670 or Geoforce 240? These cards do not cost much more.
And I have an AMD 5570 and it runs cooler than my previous 4350.
Dave
a b U Graphics card
March 28, 2011 10:23:17 AM

iam2thecrowe said:
you played crysis ok on a gt210? are you sure? do you like playing at 12fps? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gt-220,2445... the gt210 would probably be a little faster. Do you have any other options? how about ATI 5450? its better than the cards you mentioned and about the same price. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5450,2549... It should play HL2 well. I would strongly suggest getting a little bit extra money together and getting an ati 5570, you will be much happier with it.

Yes, I play it and I know what reviews say, but I could play with at least 25 fps, Maybe it was because I played in XP (Directx 9), or maybe because my gpu was ddr3..
March 28, 2011 2:59:17 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
Do you have any other options? how about ATI 5450? its better than the cards you mentioned and about the same price. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5450,2549... It should play HL2 well. I would strongly suggest getting a little bit extra money together and getting an ati 5570, you will be much happier with it.


Believe me i want a better graphic card, i've tried a Radeon hd 4550 which didn't work.. dont know why but i'm guessing because the card needs minimum 400 psu watt and my computer only have 350 psu watt...

I've also had alot of problems with my computer if you read my other threads.. so i had enough and just want to buy a crappy card so i can do anything with that computer again :p 

EDIT: By the way can my dell 8400 handle geforce 210????
a b U Graphics card
March 28, 2011 3:10:29 PM

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^ or maybe because you play at 1024x768 with all settings turned low ? :D 


Yes of course I played at that resolution, but most settings where at medium (except in the final level, where I had to turn them into low), Strange......
a b U Graphics card
March 28, 2011 3:11:44 PM

naxster said:
Believe me i want a better graphic card, i've tried a Radeon hd 4550 which didn't work.. dont know why but i'm guessing because the card needs minimum 400 psu watt and my computer only have 350 psu watt...

I've also had alot of problems with my computer if you read my other threads.. so i had enough and just want to buy a crappy card so i can do anything with that computer again :p 

EDIT: By the way can my dell 8400 handle geforce 210????


Try a 5450, they require even less power than a 4550. and a 5450 is much better than a Geforce 210.
March 28, 2011 3:19:21 PM

hang-the-9 said:
4550 should run fine on a 350 unless it's the cheapest "350" on the market, AMD recommends a 300 watt http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad..., which means it should run on a 270 watt. This has full system power usage with the card. http://www.anandtech.com/show/2630/6


Then why didn't the 4550 work when i got it? :( 

I ordered one and returned it because i though it was a defect card.. so i ordered another one.. that didn't either work, same problem...

I though that it was the motherboard that has died, but yesterday i went to the computer technical and he inserted a Geforce 8400gs and it worked except you can't actually go to the windows screen because it crash when the windows xp loading screen shows up.
a c 158 U Graphics card
March 28, 2011 3:26:07 PM

I would not say that 8400 you tested with "worked" if it crashed when Windows starts to load, that means either your drivers are bad, or the system board is bad or the card is bad. A video card works when it loads windows and passes a benchmark run. If that card is a good one that runs fine in another system, you need to do some testing with yours. Anything from your video card slot, to the power supply to the Windows installation can be at work here.

"same problem" does not help here, what was the issue with the card? Have you run a BIOS and chipset upgrade on the motherboard?
March 28, 2011 3:33:05 PM

hang-the-9 said:
I would not say that 8400 you tested with "worked" if it crashed when Windows starts to load, that means either your drivers are bad, or the system board is bad or the card is bad. A video card works when it loads windows and passes a benchmark run. If that card is a good one that runs fine in another system, you need to do some testing with yours. Anything from your video card slot, to the power supply to the Windows installation can be at work here.

"same problem" does not help here, what was the issue with the card? Have you run a BIOS and chipset upgrade on the motherboard?


No the cards i ordered (Radeon hd 4550) didn't work because nothing came on the monitor.. only black, and the power button went from green to yellow in 2 seconds. and i think if i get that card i can reformat it
a c 158 U Graphics card
March 28, 2011 3:37:12 PM

You need to get your PC working with any video card fully before looking at a nice new one. Use the 8400 as the tester again and get it to boot and run for a while. If you have an issue with your motherboard, you are wasting time and money ordering a new card.
March 28, 2011 4:03:57 PM

hang-the-9 said:
You need to get your PC working with any video card fully before looking at a nice new one. Use the 8400 as the tester again and get it to boot and run for a while. If you have an issue with your motherboard, you are wasting time and money ordering a new card.


Just ordered the Geforce 210... lets just hope that it works :) 
April 26, 2011 7:42:16 PM

I have a 210 and I can confirm it's terrible for games. What I dont understand is if you go to gpureview.com and do the comparison, the specs for the 8400 clokced at 567mhz are almost double that of the 210. yet everywhere I read says the 8400 is inferior for games. can anyone explain that? is it just that specs can't translate directly to game performance or is it that all the reviews are of the 400mhz clock and there is that big a difference for the higher clock(doubt it)? I almost want to get one to try it they are so cheap right now. also the specs for all the 9400/9500/9800 cards beat the pants off the 210 but forums recommended the 210 over low end 9xxx cards. makes no sense. All I can tell you is the 210 is NOT a gaming card, unless you want to play games from 5 years ago or more. I'm sure you already know that. I'm going to go ahead and guess the 8400 will be slightly better for games because it was designed for that while the 210 was an integrated gpu geared more toward video. I do agree that it's most likely a dead-heat for suckyness tho, lol. I don't have the dough either but I have seen the gt 430 for around 60 bucks. i'ts not a gaming card but it's much more powerful than the 210. Personally I would like a 250 or 260 but just don't have the cabbage. Incidently I did like it better in the "old" days when a higher number card/chip meant better performance. the 260 would run circles around the 430 but to me with the 430 being higher number it should be the more powerful card in my mind. well it's not surprise with the mess amd and intel made out of naming cpu's I guess :pt1cable: 
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