New gpu $100-200

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Hi, my 8800 GTS 640 recently fried, so I need to buy a new GPU. I've been reading quite a bit about current cards, but it's a bit much to wrap my head around so I'm here for some guidance.

Specs : ASUS Striker Extreme mobo
Intel Q6600
1000watt PSU

I was originally looking for a price of around $100, but I'm willing to go higher if the performance increase outweighs the price increase. Absolutely under $200. If recommending a card over 150, would still like alternative cheaper suggestions. I prefer nvidia, but if the ATI equivalent is just plain better I'll go for it. (Will ATI work flawlessly on my "nvidia system"?)

SO, I found this 465GTX open box for $106, but it was out of stock (prob the best deal I'm gonna find, right?)
I'm liking the 460GTX(looks like I can get one for ~$150), but I feel a GTS 250/450 might suit my needs as well (gaming, sc2, want some futureproof as well, if possible)
Also, radeon HD 5770 looks like it has decent bang/buck.

I could even go for a really cheap card, as long as it's an improvement over my 8800GTS, because I plan to build a new pc at some point, just don't have the money.

Anyways, I'm really not sure what I want. Is there a big difference between 128bit and 256bit? What about the 460GTX 1GB vs 768MB?

Any US retailers will do.

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I'm willing to OC to a safe degree (so if you also want to suggest boards that are particularly apt to OC).
 
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Correct, the 5870 is a faster card, with a few notable exceptions. First, the 460's overclock like crazy and can even up the performance levels. Second, the 5870's do not do DirectX 11 tesselation very well, and not as well as the 460's. This will make a performance difference in the latest games and most games being released this year. Third, if it matters to you, the 460's can do PhysX, while the 5870 cannot.

This is for the Hawk at its standard speed before overclocking. It is, of course, designed for extreme overclocking, and they have a Talon Attack model that is even better:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/1.html

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Correct, the 5870 is a faster card, with a few notable exceptions. First, the 460's overclock like crazy and can even up the performance levels. Second, the 5870's do not do DirectX 11 tesselation very well, and not as well as the 460's. This will make a performance difference in the latest games and most games being released this year. Third, if it matters to you, the 460's can do PhysX, while the 5870 cannot.

This is for the Hawk at its standard speed before overclocking. It is, of course, designed for extreme overclocking, and they have a Talon Attack model that is even better:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/1.html

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Is the 460GTX Hawk factory overclocked? Because it's core clock is 780mhz whereas the asus dcu 1gb is at 675. Also, is the hawk going to be safely overclocked to much higher of a speed than the asus dcu(how effective is the direct cooling design)?
 
The Hawk is factory overclocked to 781 mhz, but 950 mhz with an overclock is well within reach. The Hawk will be a better overclocker than the Asus, due to the specialized board components.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-460-hawk-review/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-460-hawk-review/20

The Nvidia cards have a secret weapon when overclocking: they scale better because their shaders are clocked at 2X the core speed, while AMD shaders are clocked at 1X the core speed.