Build #2 Advice

[jeremy1183]

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 Month


Budget Range: $1,350 (Budget for just the tower components)not including Case that I already bought or shipping. See monitor sections for Plans of selection.


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Just Gaming


Parts Not Required: Case (Antec 900 Two v3)


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Intel CPU, EVGA GPU, EVGA Mobo


Overclocking: Yes / in the future. Really don't see the need right now for OC with a chip that has 3.7 turbo boost


SLI or Crossfire: Yes / in the future


Monitor Resolution:1920x1080 Alienware OptX™ AW2310 23" 3D Full HD Widescreen Monitor $399.99
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-8846



Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC)


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Case- Already bought Antec 900 Two v3

Motherboard-EVGA P67 SLI 130-SB-E675-KR LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188073

GPU-EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $489.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587

PSU-CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $164.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

CPU-Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K $224.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

RAM-G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440

HDD-Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795

Opt Drive-SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model SH-B123L LightScribe Support - OEM $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222

Total-1284.93 After $50 instant rebates.

My plans with this build is to have a 3d Gaming Rig. Don't really know much about the 3d stuff and want to know if this setup is good for the job. I am also aware that I need the Nvidia 3d Vision Kit which I will get later on down the road.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

get the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb hdd for 60$ on amazon it is faster bigger and the same price

get this motherboard it is better- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128478&cm_re=gigabyte_p67-_-13-128-478-_-Product

get this ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428&cm_re=gskill_1600_8gb-_-20-231-428-_-Product cheaper and faster

will you ever do 3d gaming?

 

[jeremy1183]

yeah im sure ill play 3d gaming just to change things up every once in a while....plus my wife loves 3d stuff so basically mostly for her.


Also why do you suggest that Mobo?...kinda got my mind set on wanting EVGA so I'm going to need some reasoning behind that opinion

 

[mjmjpfaff]

gigabyte and asus make the best boards on the market. also for that res. gtx 560 ti sli is the way to go- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651&cm_re=evga_560_ti-_-14-130-651-_-Product free shipping at amazon and same rebate

 

[jeremy1183]

So 560ti is the best for the res just based off price? Just trying to ensure being able to play upcoming BF3 games on really good settings and the new COD (which im not to worried about)

 

[mjmjpfaff]

560 ti sli? easily owns every game in the near future

 

[jeremy1183]

hmmm...was going to try and avoid sli and only do it in future if really needed. Ok, thanks for the info.

 

[aznshinobi]

Unless you already have the monitor. It is easily not worth the money. Judging by the avatar, I assume you want Nvidia? Sorry its been awhile and I can't quite remember if you liked Nvidia or were open to both. Judging by the preference, you're pretty set on EVGA.

Quite honestly, you build looks fine. Defiantly not if you want to SLI though, if you want to SLI, you'd need at least a 900w power supply. (580's are power hungry buggers) I'd drop the WD drive though for the Samsung F3, get 500GB more space and have the same performance.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-HD103SJ/dp/B001U3S5S0%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB001U3S5S0
Also drop the HX850 and get this instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152043
Better efficiency and it's cheaper. It's a solid PSU trust me. Corsair has overpriced their products for years. If you don't mind non-modular, get this for even more power.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371050

That ram is way overpriced. This will perform the same and is way cheaper. Plus currently it has a 15$ discount.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426&cm_re=ddr3_1333_8gb-_-20-231-426-_-Product

In all honesty, Mjmjpfaff is right. Go with 560 Ti SLI, it'll perform way better plus it costs just about the same. The 580 just runs way to hot and loud AND power hungry. 2 560 Ti's run way cooler, are way quieter, and they consume less power.
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZR/dp/B004JLNZXU%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004JLNZXU
This'll perform at the level of a 570, so get 2 and you have SLI 570 performance basically.

 

[jeremy1183]

the mobo is 16/8 when in sli....is that fine? Do I really need the MSI brand cuz im not to big on that whole chrome look. Kinda want to keep the same design of the 580 i posted.....hmmm though decisions.....also need some reassurance that those cards will fit in the antec 900 two v3 case....i'm assuming they are smaller than the 580. Is 850 enough to power 560ti sli?

Also the reason I went with that RAM is the blue color to it....just wanted blue since everything else was...but I dont mind a little red.

 

[aznshinobi]

^ yes 16x/8x is fine for SLI, that mobo is actually a bit expensive, but you like EVGA so, meh.

You don't NEED to go MSI, though it is one of the best coolers for the 560, EVGA coolers are basically reference and run a bit hotter (more than just "a bit" hotter). Just recommending the best 560 Ti IMO.

As for the fitting in the case, well if the case can fit a single 580, it'd fit 560 Ti SLI easy. 850 is more than enough for the 560 Ti SLI.
BTW here is an idea of what'd you see.
6970 CF vs 580
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/298?vs=305
The 570 SLI doesn't work but the 6970 is fairly close to the 570's performance, a bit weaker.
I say the 570, because an OC'd 560 Ti @ 900mhz = a 570.

Here's a ram that may fit your liking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417&cm_re=8gb_ddr3_1333-_-20-231-417-_-Product

 

[jeremy1183]

Ok cool. You sold me on the 560ti sli. Ill try and look for another instead of the msi that resembles the 580 model @ 900mhz. Unless their is something so special about the msi one that makes it stand apart from the rest.

Also I dunno much bout 3d. All of this will work for 3d correct? Does it depend on motherboard chipset?

Go ahead and recommend an MSI board for me

 

[aznshinobi]

Yes it would work for 3D. Umm I don't really preference any motherboard, I just recommend what's best for the buck. In the case of MB's, the best I'd say would be this.

The Asrock Extreme4 P67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229&cm_re=extreme4_p67-_-13-157-229-_-Product

Found an EVGA 560 Ti OC'd you may like, no reviews from major sites like HardwareCanucks or Guru3D, but dual fans generally provide better cooling.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651

 

[jeremy1183]

Ahhh ef it...ill do the MSI ones....I like that mobo and considering it.

 

[aznshinobi]

If possible. You could get it off me on Amazon. It's the same price as Newegg and still gives you 20$ MIR, but you just get it from a different seller.
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZR/dp/B004JLNZXU%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004JLNZXU
It'd really help with my next upgrade (AM3+) If you don't want to I don't mind.

 

[jeremy1183]

So with the Asrock mobo its 8/8 dual when in sli use...the evga is 16/8 in sli...will there be much of a difference?
Also the MSI 560ti OC looks quite bulky. Will this cause a problem with either MSI or EVGA mobo? Don't know how much problems could occur if sitting right on top of another or being to big that I can only put one in beacuse it may cover the other slot to much.

 

[aznshinobi]

Almost all cards are dual slot now, The 580 you chose is also a dual slot. Most MB's are designed to SLI/CF 2 dual slot cards so you won't have any problems there. 8x/8x vs 16x/8x is barely a difference, if any it is probably 1%.

Trust me the MSI TFII 560 will fit just fine.

 

[jeremy1183]

One more question what about these normal 560's that have a core clock (OC) of 925mhz. The 560ti's from MSI have core clock of 880mhz.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121445

 

[aznshinobi]

Normal GTX 560's perform lower than 560 Ti's, even if stock OC'd. The 560 GTX can only OC up to the 560 Ti's performance, while the 560 Ti OC'd gets up to the 570's performance.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gigabyte_gtx560_oc/11.htm

 

[jeremy1183]

OK...560ti's it is. Thanks for your help

 

[jeremy1183]

Best answer selected by jeremy1183.

 

[aznshinobi]

Alright good luck!