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[New Build] - First time builder, 600 Max

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June 13, 2011 12:48:14 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Today if possible =)

Budget Range: 600 Max

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, School, Surfing

Parts Not Required: Speakers, OS, CD/DVD drives, Monitor, and a few things i'm unsure of, such as Case. If I can somehow find a multi button mouse for cheap I'll grab it, Not necessarily a 17 button Naga, though I'd like one, they are expensive. But if I can find a cheap one, with a decent number of buttons, i'll try to squeeze it in.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: My issue here is a big one, Newegg charges Tax in my state =/ This has caused me some issues with my search.

Country of Origin: United States

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Not likely.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: At work, not sure off top of my head.

Additional Comments: I'm looking for something thats going to last me a while. The games I play tend to be MMOs. Currently I'm playing WoW, but in the future could possibly play games such as Diablo 3 etc. Also, newer MMOs are having better and better graphics. Since 99 i've been used to playing games on low-med graphics, so, I really want something I can turn the graphics up and enjoy them for once. Now, if its a top of the line graphics game in the future it doesnt bother me if I have to turn the graphics down some etc. Like I said, i'm used to playing on low-med for over a decade now.

I'm not new to tinkering with computers, I have replaced, upgraded, tore down, rebuilt tons of PCs, this is just my first pure build on my own. I have never messed with processors etc, all my mobos have had them in them when i got them, so a bit unsure on that, may have to research it.

I have a couple older cases, from early 2000s maybe late 90s, older like HP or Emachine type cases. This makes me unsure if they will be usuable with the newer parts. Also, airflow and things of that nature concern me. I'm assuming on a build like this i'll just be going with stock heatsinks etc.

I've been searching around at parts and other peoples lists, but my main issue is they are all newegg based. Kills me they charge tax in my state.

When it comes to mouse and keyboard, i'll likely just grab cheap keyboard somewhere, for mouse, like i said above, if I can find one i can sqeeze in for the right price, with multiple buttons, i'll grab it. This is something i've just recently thought about, so other than the naga, i'm pretty clueless.

When it comes to harddrives, I don't need tons of space, my current one is 250 gig, and it still isnt full. So, I'm hoping to maybe save some money here. Up for suggestions here.





As far as parts being picked out, I have some in mind, but havent actually picked them out, I'm still usnure what site i'm going to be using. I've looked on tigerdirect some, but they don't seem to have as good of a selection. So, advice on this would be amazing as well.

One area i'm kinda clueless at, is picking out a mobo/psu wit a comparable gpu. I don't want one to bottleneck the other, but ive been looking at the i3 2100s and the gpu im still up in the air on. If I could work it in, a i5 2400.

I was looking at the ripjaws for ram, around 4g worth, but couldn't find them on tigerdirect, so not sure on this.

Mobo, from what i've read, a 1155 would be the way to go, but taking suggestions on everything =)

Looking for advice on the whole build, so any suggestions please feel free to comment!



June 13, 2011 1:09:49 PM

I doubt you can build a machine for 600.

Most retailers do not accept numbers without units as desirable forms of payment. ;) 

More seriously, the majority of gaming rigs are going for an i5 2500K. So for that you'll need a 1155 motherboard obviously. The 6K series of ATI cards are pretty good. Something like a 6850 would do you fine.

Reusing your old hard drive is a good idea. Antec do some pretty nice budget cases. As a rough guide a 600W PSU will probably do you here if you pick a single GPU. Any modular Corsair, Coolermaster and Seasonic is a good bet.
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June 13, 2011 1:17:13 PM

My issue, is I won't be able to resuse the HDD, as my current PC is staying intact.

Also, will say that, when selecting parts, I get a bit overwhelmed by all the prices, name, etc. look for a 1155 mobo, and the prices range from 100-200+, and i'm unsure of the differences or which are worth buying.
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June 13, 2011 1:55:01 PM

^^ You can build a good gaming PC for $600 IMO,...

CPU - i3 2100 - It is actually a very good gaming CPU
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-i3-2100-LGA1155-B...

Mobo -
Biostar H61 - A no frills mobo but has USB 3.0
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

RAM - Crucial 4GB DDR3
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-CT2CP25664BA1339-240-pin-...

CASE - NZXT Gamma
http://www.amazon.com/GAMMA-Classic-Interior-Chassis-Bl...

PSU - OCZ 500W
http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-ModXStream-Pro-Power-Supply/d...

GPU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Total - Well within $600
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June 13, 2011 2:00:58 PM

my PC was $600 back at the end of March:

i5-2400
ASRock H61M-VS
Mushkin 4 GB DDR3-1333
Seagate 500 GB HDD
HIS HD6850
Generic 22x DVD burner

I'd suggest the slightly more expensive H61M/U3S3 with USB3 and SATA 3, and a 1 TB HDD

It'll make a great PC
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June 13, 2011 2:17:46 PM

so 500w will be enough? should i try to find a 80 certified one? or is the one you linked fine? I was thinking of going for the i5 screwy listed
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June 13, 2011 2:23:02 PM

Also, between that Asrock and Biostar, which is better, I found the second H61M/U3S3 for 90, and found the Biostar for 65
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June 13, 2011 2:23:57 PM

gkay09 said:
^^ You can build a good gaming PC for $600 IMO,...


Well done for failing to read past the first sentence of my post or missing the point I was trying to make about lack of units. ;) 

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June 13, 2011 2:54:55 PM

On the dvd drives, what types will be compatible now? I need to check and see what i have when I go home on lunch

Also, thanks everyone for the replies!! I'm still looking for opinions and suggestions!
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June 13, 2011 3:57:20 PM

Here is where I am currently

189.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EBUXIA/ref=asc_df_B004EBUX...

159.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0047N0XBM/ref=asc_df_B0047N0X...

39.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001R4BT1M/ref=asc_df_B001R4BT...


59.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004W2T2U6/ref=asc_df_B004W2T2...

64.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004XHPCAY/ref=asc_df_B004XHPC...

35.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UDK9U6/ref=asc_df_B002UDK9...

59.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003SX0ORU/ref=asc_df_B003SX0O...

which comes to 610.84

However, I noticed that power supply isn't listed as in stock, so may try to find a different one, pref cheaper. I'm trying to get this under 600, and wanting to buy a 8-9 button mouse to go with it. So far on amazon ive found a 29.99 microsoft 9 button sidewinder mouse.

looking on opinions for ways to get this under that 600 mark or just suggestions on this build in general. is there any compatibility issues?

Also, i may need a DVD drive as mine are really old and may not be compatible.
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June 13, 2011 4:15:31 PM

looks like i may need a dvd rom drive as well. I don't have any sata ones.

Any suggestions for a dirt cheap one? Dont really care about burning or anything. Been years since i've burned anything. Just as cheap as possible. hehe
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June 13, 2011 5:06:40 PM

Also, something I just thought of, will I need to buy any cords or anything? Like Sata etc.
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June 13, 2011 6:10:59 PM

I think im dropping down to the i3 2100

anyone see any compatibility issues or have any other suggestions?

I'd like to get this ordered in the next few hours =)
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June 13, 2011 7:11:08 PM

gerane said:
I think im dropping down to the i3 2100

anyone see any compatibility issues or have any other suggestions?

I'd like to get this ordered in the next few hours =)


all seems fine.
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June 13, 2011 7:29:48 PM

Thanks, though i changed a few things, don't think it should have made any issues.

60.93
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U3S5S0/ref=ox_sc_a...

124.99
Intel Core i3 Processor i3-2100 3.1GHz 3MB LGA1155 CPU BX80623I32100
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JEVGMO/ref=ox_sc_a...

39.99
Crucial CT2CP25664BA1339 4GB 2GBx2 240-pin PC3-10600 DIMM DDR3 Memory KIT
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001R4BT1M/ref=ox_sc_a...

159.99
HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB (256bit) GDDR5 Eyefinity Display Port HDMI 2x DVI (HDCP) Retail (RoHS) PCI Express X16 2.1 Video Card H685F1GD
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047N0XBM/ref=ox_sc_a...

35.99
GAMMA Classic Series ATX Mid Tower Interior Steel Chassis (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002UDK9U6/ref=ox_sc_a...

64.99
Antec BP550 Plus 550W ATX12V V2.2 Modular Power Supply
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017KE3DM/ref=ox_sc_a...

24.99
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SIMPXM/ref=ox_sc_a...

81.93
ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total 593.80


I'm pretty sure I have a keyboard laying around, only issue, is I may need a mouse. I'm thinking a 5 button will be fine, but wanting to keep it cheap.
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June 13, 2011 9:00:38 PM

now, what im unsure of, do i need to purchase a heatsink or anything for my CPU? Also, what about thermal compound?
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June 13, 2011 9:13:48 PM

Doh, just noticed something that may be an issue, I ordered an ATX case, and just realized the mobo i ordered is M ATX, will I have issues with the smaller mobo?
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June 13, 2011 9:16:10 PM

You won't be overclocking and the sandybridge series stock cooler works well enough and that comes with thermal compound which works well enough though I suggest maybe getting some Arctic Silver thermal paste, it would help to lower the temps on your CPU by a bit.
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June 13, 2011 9:23:27 PM

thanks so much! anything else I might need to know? Sorry for all the questions, I like to know every detail when getting into a new project
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June 13, 2011 9:48:55 PM

dont worry about the case, an ATX case can still fit a M-ATX mobo, if its ATX it can support M-ATX too.
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June 13, 2011 9:55:01 PM

sweet ty! I noticed that the case only came with the one rear fan. Should my really old fans still work? I know I have a few fans laying around. Wasn't sure how many i should try to have in the case. It supports 6, comes with 1.
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June 13, 2011 10:44:45 PM

bah, all my fans are in use. So, i'm guessing the one rear fan won't be enough?
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June 13, 2011 10:52:59 PM

Nope, unless your not planning on overclocking, just add some $5 fans (molex or 3-pin is ip to you.)
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June 13, 2011 10:56:08 PM

Likely won't be overclocking. With that in mind how many do you think is needed? and in what spots, with outtake being 120, will a 80 work for an intake?
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June 14, 2011 2:06:17 AM

Western Digital VelociRaptor RFHWD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s $99 Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $59.99 Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb $169.99 Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz $124.99 Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston SSDNow S100 SS100S2/16G $54.99 Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This total is around $500, leaving you $100 extra for case/power. Use https://www.shoprunner.com/home.php for their 30 day free trial period..allows you 2 day Fedex delivery for free for all your purchase. Also if your new customer for Newegg..use NEWCUSTOMER10 for additional $10 discount..which should cover most of your state tax cost.

I build a system like this for my son's gaming..he loves it. The motherboard has the latest tech that allows you to use SSD at small size as cache for your bigger and cheaper Sata/EIDE HDs. I used the Xion Predator case also with an antec 700 watt power supply that i bought from refurbish from Newegg...no prob with them at all.



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