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June 14, 2011 3:56:56 AM

New Gaming PC for Battlefield 3. Opinions?

- Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
- Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H70
- Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 Vengeance 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
- EVGA GeForce GTX 580 DS Superclocked Fermi 797MHZ 1536MB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card
- Corsair Obsidian Series 650D Mid-Tower Case ATX 4X5.25 6X3.5INT USB USB3.0 1394 Fan Ctrl No PS
- Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000W Modular Power Supply SLI ATX12V 24PIN Active PFC PCI-E 135mm Fan
- Intel 320 Series GEN3 120GB 2.5IN SSD SATA2 Solid State Disk Flash Drive OEM
- Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3

Total: $1, 773

Oh and I have a Dell s2209w @60hz monitor, will I experience bad screen tearing in games if I have over 60 fps without v sync on?

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June 14, 2011 5:19:46 AM

how far will you oc the 2500k?

2 560 ti's in cf beat out a single 580 and are cheaper. 6950 cf is only a bit more and contends with gtx 570 sli so you should get that.

this psu 155$- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-850HX-850-Watt-Prof...

that case does not have good airflow try this one 120$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ssd 220$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this one is cheaper and faster go figure

this ram is better- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... that motherboard is a little overkill. also look into the asrock p67 extreme6

over 60 fps will not mess up your picture.
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June 14, 2011 5:49:58 AM

I am new to OC'ing but I heard the 2500k is fairly easy to overclock. I would probably be thinking around 4.5 to 4.8 Ghz? The reason I wanted the 580 SC was because it would provide me an upgrade path later on down the road. I am shopping at NCIX.com so the prices are a little bit different and the Intel SSD is actually cheaper than the Crucial SSD.
As for the case It actually does have adequate airflow, maybe not the best, but I like everything about it and it would do me well. Are you sure the RAM is better? It is the same model # and timings so I don't see how it would be any better. I like your idea for the motherboard though it could save me some cash. If it's not any trouble do you know any key differences between the Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3, and the GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3?

Thanks for your input :D 

I'm also replacing the 200MM fan at the top of the case as well as the h70 fans with 4 120MM Coolermaster R4-L2R 120MM Green case fan so I think that will help the cooling and the noise levels with the case.
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June 14, 2011 7:06:31 PM

gskill ram is the best
the scythe mugen 2 is cheaper and will easily handle a 4.8 ghz oc. water cooling is overrated
cooler master psu's are not that good make sure to go with a corsair or xfx psu
how long do you think you will wait until you sli? and what is your resolution?
there is really not many differences between the 2 boards except one is a z68 which allow for ssd caching (which isnt that great raid 0 can compete with it) and it allows you to use the i5 2500k's integrated gpu which you wont use since you have a discrete gpu. the physical layout of the board is preatty similar but the ud5 has like 2 more sata 3 ports (there is already 4 and no need for any more).
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June 14, 2011 10:25:16 PM

Ok thank you I just wanted a 1000W PSU because I wanted to have enough room for OC and sli'd gtx 580's
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June 14, 2011 10:39:46 PM

for 1080p 2 580's are way overkill and you are going to be pissed that you just spent 1000$ on gpu's when all you need to spend is 500$. save the extra 500$ for gpu's 2 years down the line that will absolutely kill 2 580's. the gtx 560 ti's are a great deal so are the 6950's. and then downgrade to an hx 750 psu
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June 15, 2011 3:06:49 AM

Yeah, but when I get my second 580 I'll be planning to get 2 monitors for nvidias 3d surround. I have big dreams, lol.
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June 15, 2011 3:29:13 AM

even for 2 monitors 6950 cf will do fine. usually if you are gaming you use an odd number of monitors so you dont have a split right in the middle of the screen. and for gaming with 3 monitors the 6970 and later cf is the best deal. a slightly oc'd 6970 cf runs on par with gtx 580 sli.
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June 15, 2011 5:00:06 AM

Do you think it would be worth it to upgrade to a 2600k? or just go with the 2500k?
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June 15, 2011 5:58:45 AM

stay with the 2500k
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June 15, 2011 10:31:51 AM

you are fine! dice has already announced that they will be makimng sure to optimize BF3 as well as make it visually stunning so no worries!
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June 15, 2011 11:24:23 AM

If you're planning on multi-monitor (2-3) AMD's eyefinity will be better, as their cards have more memory as standard than Nvidia equivalents. The only reason you'd go for Nvidia is for the 3D vision (which is something you may want).

My advice for you is to get a 6970 to start with, and then when you're getting more monitors, get a second 6970 in crossfire.
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June 15, 2011 10:55:25 PM

I think i want to stay with the nvidia I have had bad experience with ATi or well AMD now
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June 15, 2011 11:17:33 PM

amd scales way better in duel card setup. i say it is worth the risk.
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June 15, 2011 11:18:00 PM

even though there isnt a very big one
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June 16, 2011 2:29:59 AM

why do people feel the urgent need to upgrade for a game months in advance of its release date, and long before its system requirements are known? you gonna get bummed out if they delay the game to 2012 when your new rig will be dated by then lol
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June 16, 2011 2:39:01 AM

i dont think it's really about doing the doing the upgrading right away. More of just knowing what it's going to take and planning for the upgrade and just saving the money for it between now and then. You are right though...i could just see the flames on the boards if it were to get delayed and the people who have already done the upgrade this far out from the release
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June 16, 2011 2:39:47 AM

2012 haha. i dont think so
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June 16, 2011 3:15:58 AM

Yeah really the games been three years in production and they just put out the release date. Pre orders must be racking up and on top of that they're selling it days before MW3 I believe. They would be the stupidest company in the world to have to delay it after all that. And DICE has clearly proven themselves has a studio with some brains
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June 16, 2011 5:36:03 AM

One big thing is that since it will not just be a console to pc port it will perform a bit better than you would expect. DICE will optimize the game as much as possible. Supposedly it was said that if you can run Bad Company 2 in Dx11 with no issues you'll be able to run Battlefield 3 fine. (I would assume on high rather than maxed out)
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June 16, 2011 5:43:32 AM

Yeah I wasn't getting the new gaming system now, I'm just planning so when I go out to get it around like september I will have the best rig possible for my budget.
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June 16, 2011 9:11:40 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
even though there isnt a very big one


I agree with this. Any bad experiences had with AMD cards in the past may now be moot since they've come a long way. This situation warrants the jump being made.
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June 17, 2011 1:23:36 AM

CrunchyApple said:
Yeah I wasn't getting the new gaming system now, I'm just planning so when I go out to get it around like september I will have the best rig possible for my budget.


nothing wrong with that, just keep in mind that hardware changes fast. The new generation of GPUs from Nvidia and AMD may come around the same time (late 2011 I believe) and they should vastly outperform anything around now. System requirements are usually released like 1-3 months before the game`s release date, so that should not be too far from now, so wait at least until then before planning your rig. Right now any advice anyone gives you is pure speculation
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June 19, 2011 9:41:24 PM

I"m hoping that I can find a good deal on the 580 SC DS so I don't have to get it when I get my new system. Know any good deals on it that will be coming soon?
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June 19, 2011 10:53:55 PM

The DS version looks as if it would blow more hot air back in to the case instead of exhausting it through the back of the case because of the open type cooler that it has. Just my view on it...but guess you could check some reviews from web sites.
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June 20, 2011 4:47:35 AM

no the ds looks like it has a direct exhaust
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June 20, 2011 5:31:20 AM

i think the whole point is to keep it closed other than the exhaust and room for the fans to get air. this seems to be kind of a cross between just being open and direct exhaust (more just being open)
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June 20, 2011 8:57:50 PM

I will be replacing the 200M on the top of the case with 2 coolermaster R4 green fans, as well as the 2 fans on the H70 with the R4's. I don't really like the corsair fans, they're not that great. I'm keeping the 200m on the front though. Will cooling be a problem?
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June 20, 2011 10:31:29 PM

$189 for case? Much better options out there. I suggest to look further. Take a look at the Cooler Master 922...it has great open room. Damn near a full tower in reality. It has a bulging right panel cable managment so there is no fighting to get your panels back on when cables are routed behind the motherboard. I know it will do the job for cooling. Oh and it's only $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also take a look at the Antec 900 Two v3 as it has extended cooling options as well. Its $119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Just saying there is no need to spend $189 on a case when there are cheaper ones that have more options and if it matters to you look better.
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June 21, 2011 7:32:42 PM

silverclaw said:
Define better?

I'm no expert by any means, however, the ram the OPer listed is faster than that particular G.skill model.

why dont you read the forum again i listed my reason. i posted it because the gskill ram is a common favorite and perferred by most people in the forums because of its performance.

fail. they are both 1600mhz
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June 21, 2011 10:17:13 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
why dont you read the forum again i listed my reason. i posted it because the gskill ram is a common favorite and perferred by most people in the forums because of its performance.

fail. they are both 1600mhz


I read your post, "G.Skill ram is the best" - very informative indeed.

I understand they're both 1600Mhz, there's no disputing that.

You need to take into account CL

CORSAIR Vengeance: 8-8-8-24 1.5v

G.Skill X: 9-9-9-24 1.5v

Therefore, Corsair Vengeance ram is faster. There's nothing wrong with Corsair ram, it's reliable and well built.


I'm not having a go at you by any means, just reputing your statement.



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June 21, 2011 10:40:11 PM

Why get 1600mhz anyways? 1333 is just fine and the difference is probably 1-4% that includes the account of timings.

Also, personal opinion, a system for BF3 should be held out till Dice releases specs. Honestly I don't think you should be getting this for BF3 yet when Dice released that the 580 didn't play the demo @ max. (Therefore we can expect very heavy graphical demand on the cards)
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June 21, 2011 11:31:14 PM

silverclaw said:
I read your post, "G.Skill ram is the best" - very informative indeed.

I understand they're both 1600Mhz, there's no disputing that.

You need to take into account CL

CORSAIR Vengeance: 8-8-8-24 1.5v

G.Skill X: 9-9-9-24 1.5v

Therefore, Corsair Vengeance ram is faster. There's nothing wrong with Corsair ram, it's reliable and well built.


I'm not having a go at you by any means, just reputing your statement.


oh im sorry i thought i was in another thread where i explained myself.

people always corrected me (when i was new here) that gskill made better ram. i own corsair ram i think it is great but ive been persuaded through many people which i shouldnt have let happened since they do make great products

what does cl mean i know cl9 is supposed to be the most stable
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June 22, 2011 8:05:59 AM

aznshinobi said:
Why get 1600mhz anyways? 1333 is just fine and the difference is probably 1-4% that includes the account of timings.

Also, personal opinion, a system for BF3 should be held out till Dice releases specs. Honestly I don't think you should be getting this for BF3 yet when Dice released that the 580 didn't play the demo @ max. (Therefore we can expect very heavy graphical demand on the cards)




Can you link an article or something because I would be pretty surprised if a 580 couldn't run BF3 at max.
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June 22, 2011 6:52:07 PM

aznshinobi said:
Why get 1600mhz anyways? 1333 is just fine and the difference is probably 1-4% that includes the account of timings.

Also, personal opinion, a system for BF3 should be held out till Dice releases specs. Honestly I don't think you should be getting this for BF3 yet when Dice released that the 580 didn't play the demo @ max. (Therefore we can expect very heavy graphical demand on the cards)

how do we know how many fps it was getting? maybe it was getting something ridiculously high on those lower settings
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June 22, 2011 10:39:02 PM

uh well what else is there out there to be able to run it at the max? the 590 and 6990 are the only things above the 580....unless they are making it to be maxed by an SLI or CF system. I doubt they have a secret squirrel card from Nvidia or AMD that has yet to be released.
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June 23, 2011 7:40:41 AM

^ Perhaps they have a test sample of the 7xxx series and 6xx Kepler maybe that's what they mean :p  AMD and Nvidia does report the new GPUs would have a 50% performance increase from the prior. Course that is them and it could mean just about anything.
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June 23, 2011 9:19:48 PM

Maybe..but would it be a good thing to make a game based on a "test sample"?
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June 23, 2011 10:17:51 PM

I dunno I'm not the one who made the game. You can ask EA lawls.
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June 24, 2011 12:51:41 AM

much. good choice
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June 24, 2011 2:08:34 AM

^ WHAT! Depending on the price, they are about equal. The CM Silent Pros have been solid PSUs all around. Good reviews, they do live up to the name of "Silent" I can't even hear mines. Great efficiency, they have good reviews. I'd say they are about the same. Not better or worse both choices.
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June 24, 2011 2:34:46 AM

LOVE my silent pro. best psu ive ever owned
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June 24, 2011 4:06:33 AM

aznshinobi said:
^ WHAT! Depending on the price, they are about equal. The CM Silent Pros have been solid PSUs all around. Good reviews, they do live up to the name of "Silent" I can't even hear mines. Great efficiency, they have good reviews. I'd say they are about the same. Not better or worse both choices.

sorry thanks for your input. usually people dont suggest cooler master psu's i thought they were bad
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June 24, 2011 4:15:33 AM

Ok I shall change it back haha I like how it's a quiet PSU, loud ones are quite annoying.
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