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Another "My first build" topic, Second opinions please?

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June 15, 2011 6:10:18 PM

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Combo Deal: $240

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL -$78

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M600 RS-600-AMBA-D3 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Modular Power Supply -$100

SAPPHIRE 100293L Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card -$60

HT | OMEGA eClaro 7.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card $185

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $60

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $20

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60

Rosewill RCR-IC002 74-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB port / Extra silver face plate $15




All that Totals to about $840 on newegg with shipping.


Oh, and for the OS, I'm planning on getting Windows 7 Ultimate. But I just wanted a second opinion on this build before I actually start buying parts.

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June 15, 2011 6:14:12 PM

If this is a gaming machine, you can build a way better system! Starting from CPU..With 850$ budget you don't go with AMD but with Intel. Secondly, a PSU from Corsair or some other brand better than CM would be great(XFX, Seasonic etc). Lastly and most bad thing the GPU..Seriously 5570? At this price point a 560 (non TI) would be great! Also you don't need sound card..most of the time the intergrated will be good!
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June 15, 2011 8:08:44 PM

Ah, right, I forgot to mention: I'm a musician, so I'd like to work with some DAW programs. Which is why the soundcard is one of the most expensive components. The MB in this build is supposedly capable of 24 bit intergrated sound, but the latency probably wouldn't be so good.

Keeping around this price point, for a little bit more, I can go with the Dual Core i3 Sandy bridge processor, if it would be that much better. The lower power usage might be nice though.

Power supplies is one of the components I don't know so much about. I WAS looking at some Seasonic ones, so I'll give those another look along with the XFX ones, then.

Geforce 560, right? That's more like a $200 card right? OF course it's going to be better than the $60 card! Well, that would make sense if I weren't getting the soundcard.



Actually, I just got a little extra unexpected money, so it looks like I'll be able to up the budget a little bit, by another $100-$150. So I need to figure out if I should put the cash towards a more powerful processor, a better GPU or a SSD.
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June 15, 2011 9:11:32 PM

You don't need a 200$ (185) sound card none the less. In my experience of editing, CPU > Sound. I use mobo sound and that's good enough for me.

You don't need that much power, for your current build, 450 is all you'll ever need on load. Plus, you're not SLI/CFing I'm assuming. Also, Antec's are good as well (& cheap)

Alright I'd say go with a build like this.
Check out my 600$ build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Change the CPU to the i5 2400
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-i5-2400-3-10GHz-B...
And that'll bring you up to 670$, the 6850 instead for stock reasons +10.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Free game + another free game + lifetime warrenty
This'll bring you up to around $690. Pay 40$ more for 8GB of ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Then pay that 100$ for this fantastic sound card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total you should be at about $830. That's basically cheaper than your current build. 20+15 (for the DVD/CD and card reader) and you have a total of $865 and way more GPU & CPU performance as well as similar sound.
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June 15, 2011 9:30:00 PM

Think that's ideal for your job

High Quality case from Lian-Li

LIAN LI PC-A04B Black Aluminum MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ideal PSU for your build from Corsair

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Of course you won't take the crappy i3..Quad Core Sandy Bridge all the way!

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

An Asus motherboard which has a 1x PCI-E so you can connect your Sound Card

ASUS P8H67-M EVO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8GB of RAM will be fine!

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Of course a SSD. Intel 320 Series of course!

Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW080G3K5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1TB for Storage

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And your choice of Sound Card. You 're the pro here so you know better

HT | OMEGA eClaro 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SUM 952$ With MIR
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June 15, 2011 10:24:10 PM

Why does he need an Evo H67 board?
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June 16, 2011 8:38:35 PM

OK. Thanks for the advice. It looks like everyone agrees I should be Shooting for an Intel i5 2400.

michxymi, is there any particular reason you're advising a MicroATX build? Taking up less room is a nice benefit, but it seems like the expandability and airflow of a mid-tower is a better trade off. Sometimes cheaper, even. Lian Li does make some nice cases though, but since most of them are $200+ they should.

the sale one that $100 creative card already ran out, for that price it was worth considering, but not really for $150.

So, if I rework a build using everyone's input, then how about something along these lines:

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL

XFX HD-685X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW080G3K5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Rosewill RCR-IC001 40-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB Port / Extra Silver Face Plate

HT | OMEGA eClaro 7.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card


Now, all that totals to about $1162. I need to try to reign the price back down and see if I can get it back under $1000. I could do this simply by skipping the sound card, seeing how far I can go with integrated sound, and adding a sound card or sound interface on later, when I can afford to do so. Or by not getting a SSD.

I don't know about the MB though. I admit I just picked the one off the top from "highest rated motherboards" How are ASrock MBs, anyway?
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June 17, 2011 2:47:00 AM

You don't need a P67 board, you're not overclocking so no benefit there. And you're not going to Crossfire, least I think not. Get this motherboard and save some money.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Leaves you with room to upgrade, and you save 50$ I believe.
Also, you should get this SSD instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It'll save about 40$ but give you faster speeds. Granted a smaller size. OR go with this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Same price, better reads and writes. SF controllers are generally better.

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June 21, 2011 8:37:32 PM

aznshinobi said:
You don't need a P67 board, you're not overclocking so no benefit there. And you're not going to Crossfire, least I think not. Get this motherboard and save some money.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Leaves you with room to upgrade, and you save 50$ I believe.
Also, you should get this SSD instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It'll save about 40$ but give you faster speeds. Granted a smaller size. OR go with this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Same price, better reads and writes. SF controllers are generally better.


Isn't the board you just recommended ALSO a P67 Board? Nonetheless, that board should suit my needs quite nicely.

Though, Newegg just put out a MB/RAM combo deal, so I might get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

And I'll definitely go for the faster SSD. As a boot/install drive, faster reads is really going to be the more important spec, and 64 gb is still enough room for the OS and most of the programs that will actually benefit from being installed on it.

Anyway, thanks for the help, guys. I'm planning on ordering the parts tomorrow, so hopefully all goes well and I won't be running back here with a bunch of troubleshooting problems.
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June 21, 2011 9:28:58 PM

Oh I just recommended a P67 because it was cheaper than the Extreme4 and about the price of the Evo. That deal is a solid one, def jump on it.

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