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June 18, 2011 1:33:03 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: (sometime before I go off to school)

Budget Range: (I don't want to spend a whole lot more than $1000 if possible, I think this is currently 1100) also, that's after rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (Graphically intense gaming, watching movies, web surfing)

Parts Not Required: (keyboard and mouse will salvage from old PC, speakers (just got a new Logitech 5.1 speaker sethttp://img.tomshardware.com/forum/uk/icones/biggrin.gif), OS)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (newegg or amazon)

Country of Origin: (USA)

Parts Preferences: see below, I would also like to add a small 32 GB SSD as a boot drive

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: need to buy a monitor, reasonably priced suggestions would be much appreciated

My Current Parts List (any alternate suggestions? and are there any incompatibilities that I missed?)

Processor: Intel core i7 2600k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock P67 EXTREME4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card: GTS 450 x 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM: Corsair XMS 8 GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD Drive: ASUS 24x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1 TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Phantom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair CMPSU-850 TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooling: Hyper 212 +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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June 18, 2011 2:10:19 AM

Not bad. A few things.
-Drop to 2500k.
-please for the love of God, do NOT get a GTS 450 SLI setup...
-PSU is well overkill.
-You only need 4GB of ram
-Get a cheaper case.
With those recommendations, I also give you this thread which should help you select a build...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/312822-31-bestconfigs...

Sorry to be brisk, but I'm short on time.
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June 18, 2011 2:21:47 AM

striker410 said:
Not bad. A few things.
-Drop to 2500k.
-please for the love of God, do NOT get a GTS 450 SLI setup...
-PSU is well overkill.
-You only need 4GB of ram
-Get a cheaper case.
With those recommendations, I also give you this thread which should help you select a build...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/312822-31-bestconfigs...

Sorry to be brisk, but I'm short on time.



Thanks for the quick response! So why would you drop from the 2600k? And would you mind explaining what's wrong with a 450 SLI hook up? I read that it was very competitive as a mid-range setup. Also isn't 6 GB becoming sort of standard so would 4 be a little too little?
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June 18, 2011 3:15:34 AM

Wamafibglop said:
Thanks for the quick response! So why would you drop from the 2600k? And would you mind explaining what's wrong with a 450 SLI hook up? I read that it was very competitive as a mid-range setup. Also isn't 6 GB becoming sort of standard so would 4 be a little too little?


For the price of 450's in SLI you could have a 560Ti which will outperform it.
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June 18, 2011 3:28:53 AM

I would drop the 2500k, mainly because of price. The 2600k and 2500k are essentially identical, asides from 1 aspect. Hyper Threading.

Hyper Threading essentially makes the processor a lower powered Octo-core, by tricking the OS into thinking that each CPU core is actually 2. This feature is very useful in very high level rendering, but not at all for gaming. Take a look at this benchmark: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287 Almost no change in performance in game. Certainly not worth $100.

And for GTS 450 SLI, just.... Dont.
Here's my reasoning, and proof as to why not.
A GTS 450 SLI setup would cost roughly $240. A single GTX 560 Ti costs $230.
With an SLI setup right away, you kill your upgrade path.
With a single card, you can easily add another down the road for a nice performance boost.

GTS 450 SLI BC2 benchmark: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-sli-revie...
And 2033: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-sli-revie...

GTX 560 Ti BC2 Benchmark: http://guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/18
And 2033: http://guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/16

As you can see, a single GTX 560 Ti outperforms 2 450's in SLI for cheaper. It also uses much less power.

For ram, I suppose 8GB is ok. However, I can pretty much guarantee you that you will not run into a ram limitation unless doing something weird, like running multiple games at the same time. Yeah, go 8GB.


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June 18, 2011 10:31:29 AM

my specs are much better take look

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June 18, 2011 12:19:18 PM

That's pretty hard to read o:

Anyway that mobo won't do Crossfire so no point buying 2 6870's. Also the x6 Phenoms are a waste for gaming purposes, the extra cores don't do a whole lot.

And personally I don't like those "quick-fix" water cooling solutions... either do it properly or don't do it at all, just my opinion. I also read that such things lead to a much warmer motherboard, but I haven't researched that.
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June 18, 2011 2:53:56 PM

striker410 said:
I would drop the 2500k, mainly because of price. The 2600k and 2500k are essentially identical, asides from 1 aspect. Hyper Threading.

Hyper Threading essentially makes the processor a lower powered Octo-core, by tricking the OS into thinking that each CPU core is actually 2. This feature is very useful in very high level rendering, but not at all for gaming. Take a look at this benchmark: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287 Almost no change in performance in game. Certainly not worth $100.

And for GTS 450 SLI, just.... Dont.
Here's my reasoning, and proof as to why not.
A GTS 450 SLI setup would cost roughly $240. A single GTX 560 Ti costs $230.
With an SLI setup right away, you kill your upgrade path.
With a single card, you can easily add another down the road for a nice performance boost.

GTS 450 SLI BC2 benchmark: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-sli-revie...
And 2033: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-sli-revie...

GTX 560 Ti BC2 Benchmark: http://guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/18
And 2033: http://guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/16

As you can see, a single GTX 560 Ti outperforms 2 450's in SLI for cheaper. It also uses much less power.

For ram, I suppose 8GB is ok. However, I can pretty much guarantee you that you will not run into a ram limitation unless doing something weird, like running multiple games at the same time. Yeah, go 8GB.


Yeah after doing some research last night I realized that there really is no practical reason to have the 2600k for me personally. As for the graphics card I can see you're definitely right! However, I just saw one of neweggs weekend deals where the GTX 460 is only $99 after rebates. If i ran 2 of those, it would come out cheaper than a 560, but after looking at benchmarks on that same site, 460 x 2 seemed to outperform the 560 across the board. I know it doesn't make it quite as easy to upgrade in the future, but for the present it seems to be more cost effective.

Also just how big of a power supply would I need? And what's a case you would recommend that's cheaper has good airflow, and looks pretty nice?
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June 18, 2011 3:08:15 PM

The deal you probably saw was a GTX 460 SE after rebate. Newegg shows price after rebate on their deals. A GTX 460 is nowhere near the power of a real one, as it has disabled shaders and bandwidth.

For a 460 you're looking at $170 per card (for the 1GB), which is considerably more expensive. That's more in line with the GTX 570!

And for a 560 Ti SLI (just in case you want to add another card) setup, you're looking at a 750w power supply. You could easily run it off a 650, but you need 750 for the connectors.

One of my personal favorite cases (although I haven't owned it...yet) is the HAF 912. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It's a big, roomy case, and looks pretty sexy. Very affordable too!
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June 18, 2011 3:56:15 PM

Yeah that was for a SE after rebate, but can't you just overclock the card and bring it up to par with a regular 460? Wow I do really like that case, and especially for the price!
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June 18, 2011 4:08:06 PM

No, unfortunately you can't. Shaders are something that cannot be accounted for by overclocking, same with memory bandwidth.

And no prob on the case! It's a favorite around here.
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June 18, 2011 4:37:30 PM

Well aint that just a cryin shame? If I'm looking to spend about $200 for a graphics card(s) is the 560 Ti gonna be the best I'll find for that price?
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June 18, 2011 4:49:18 PM

Yeah, if you want Nvidia. The 6950 recently experienced a price drop to $229 also.
May want to check it out.
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June 18, 2011 4:53:24 PM

you should use gods greatest your EYES to read well
well you should your mouth if you dont know about cooling.i just forgot to look mobo,here is better and stronger solution:-


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June 18, 2011 5:01:24 PM

Lol, that's a 560, not a 560 ti.
Also, that cooler blows.
Same for the 2600k.
Same with the power supply,
same with the HDD.

And anti virus? really? lol!

Please stop trolling. I think you are a troll, not sure. Either way please don't give advice to people until you know what you are talking about :) 
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June 19, 2011 4:18:17 AM

Best answer selected by Wamafibglop.
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June 19, 2011 4:19:40 AM

Thanks for the input everyone!
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June 21, 2011 4:24:26 AM

what the hell you r talking huh?that antivirus *** was a gift and stop proving others wrong.i am 15 yrs old but i started collecting information about gaming rigs when i was 10.so shut your mouth and let people take the advise.
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June 21, 2011 5:21:07 AM

Hey I dig it. learning at 15 is cool, just do a little research please? We are talking about real money and you shouldn't be giving advice unless you know what you are talking about. If you do a bit more reading, you should be well up to spec with the latest builds and parts soon. This thread is closed, so no need to comment any more.
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June 21, 2011 10:27:12 AM

Sorry to have a late input, but I just want to see what everybody thinks of going for the GTX570 instead. Graphics wise you will be fine. But if your build REALLY cant cut back to something cheaper, then don't do it.

I am currently in the process of selecting parts for my own PC and it is going to be about $50-$150 more than yours. That is probably why I am able to afford the 570 though.

Anyways. If you can get the 570 than the difference is going to be big.
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June 28, 2011 4:45:37 PM

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