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September 13, 2011 12:00:26 PM

i have a acer 3400g slim desktop. 220watt psu. i know it says it can upgrade to 95w cpu. but im gunna buy a 350w psu for it. so since i upgrade the psu can i use a 125w. im thinking that since the computer comes with a low psu thats why its saying 95w only. somebody plz answer. ill show you what im wanting to buy here, PSU = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , VIDEO CARD = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , CPU AMD = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , what do you guys think. im not that good with computers. thank you anyone who responds.

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September 13, 2011 12:16:45 PM

Cant check the links as I'm at work and newegg gets blocked as spyware due to all the ad-clicks they use.
However, assuming the PSU you are going to buy fits in the Acer system and powers it fine then I would think that any CPU the motherboard can handle would be fine.
I would however have a think about the heat sink and cooling of any new CPU since it's a slim case. if you're only going up from say 2-2.5ghz then you'll most likely be fine, but best to check.
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September 13, 2011 12:22:11 PM

Id recommend using this PSU calc:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Also make sure you can fit an ITX PSU into your case, i know you listed the case as slim, but PSU's tend to be ATX now-days. Worth double checking.

I think you should probably be looking more into the region of a 400w PSU.
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September 13, 2011 12:33:50 PM

Also check the motherboards website. Some Motherboards will only handle a certain wattage of CPU and if you put a higher wattage CPU in, you risk burning out the motherboard.
September 13, 2011 12:58:13 PM

wow thanks guys lots of replies. ok... yes the psu will fit.. its the exact shape dimensions and everything. that thing is, i cant find a 400w one for this so im stuck with the 350 which is ok with me not to big on gaming. also. thats exactly what im affraid of is my motherboard burning out. i was thinking acer put 95w max because of the psu is low. so i used CPU-Z program and it told me my motherboard is Model-WMCP78M , Manufacturer-Acer Chipset-Nvidia nForce 720a Rev. A2 , Southbridge-Nvidia ID075C Rev. A2 , LPC10-ITE IT8720 and for my bios Brand-AMI , Version P01-B3 02/16/2011 (latest im sure) ive been tryin to look up specs its kinda hard to find. if anyone can help. i can get numbers OH AND ALSO I RUN A FAN ON MY COMPUTER AT ALL TIMES CAUSE ITS SUMMER FYI AND THE SIDE PANEL IS OFF ALWAYS FOR AIRFLOW. I STILL LOVE THIS LITTLE ACER ITS MY SECOND ONE I HAD A 2006 I JUST BOUGHT THIS ONE LAST MONTH.
September 13, 2011 1:56:57 PM

ok so i did a little research and yes my motherboard can only handle 95w processor. with that info. can someone tell me the best 95w phenom there is. i want this computer top notch thanks.
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September 13, 2011 4:20:27 PM

AMD Phenom II X4 850, Propus Quad Core, S AM3, 3.3GHz, 2MB Cache, HT 2000MHz, 95W, Retail
September 14, 2011 2:27:20 AM

Uther39 said:
AMD Phenom II X4 850, Propus Quad Core, S AM3, 3.3GHz, 2MB Cache, HT 2000MHz, 95W, Retail

ok i seen that... but theres a phenom with level 3 cache. AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache, 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core isnt that better?
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September 14, 2011 9:26:09 AM

You'll probably find more benefit from the faster 3.3GHz cores on the AMD Phenom II X4 850
September 15, 2011 9:41:40 AM

ok. i just heard level 3 caching is gunna be popular in gaming soon so i was wondering what would be more benefit more in the long run. i just ordered my 350w psu for my 220w one lol. also i ordered my asus gt430 which i am bummed cause i found a even better one.. a msi gt440 for around the same price. i dont need ati's cause they dont accelerate bluray or hd content. thats why i like nvidia. i have a crapload of hd movies. is a gt440 way bettter than a gt30?
Model
Brand
MSI
Model
N440GT-MD1GD3/LP
Interface
Interface
PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer
NVIDIA
GPU
GeForce GT 440 (Fermi)
Core Clock
810MHz
Stream Processors
96
Memory
Effective Memory Clock
1800MHz
Memory Size
1GB
Memory Interface
128-bit
Memory Type
DDR3
3D API
DirectX
DirectX 11
OpenGL
OpenGL 4.0
Ports
HDMI
1 x HDMI
D-SUB
1 x D-SUB
DVI
1 x DVI
General
RAMDAC
400 MHz
Max Resolution
2560 x 1600
SLI Support
No
Cooler
With Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported
Yes
HDCP Ready
Yes

NOW THE CARD I ORDERED WAS THIS

Model
Brand
ASUS
Model
ENGT430/DI/1GD3(LP)
Form Factor
Low Profile Ready
Low Profile Bracket Included
Yes
Interface
Interface
PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer
NVIDIA
GPU
GeForce GT 430 (Fermi)
Core Clock
700MHz
Shader Clock
1400MHz
Stream Processors
96
Memory
Effective Memory Clock
1600MHz
Memory Size
1GB
Memory Interface
128-bit
Memory Type
DDR3
3D API
DirectX
DirectX 11
OpenGL
OpenGL 4.0
Ports
HDMI
1 x HDMI
D-SUB
1 x D-SUB
DVI
1 x DVI
General
RAMDAC
400 MHz
Max Resolution
2560 x 1600
SLI Support
No
Cooler
With Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported
Yes
HDCP Ready
Yes
Card Dimensions
6.3" x 2.8"
Features
Features
The Dust-Proof Fan design additionally dissipates heat efficiently while expending lifespan by 25%!

Fuse Protection technology delivers double the over-current protection for risk-free computing.

GPU Guard doubles structural reinforcement. Cracks free!

GeForce CUDA Support

NVIDIA PhysX ready
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September 15, 2011 9:57:55 AM

Yes the MSI is the better card, also for such low end cards like these then AMD Phenom II X4 850, Propus Quad Core, S AM3, 3.3GHz, 2MB Cache, HT 2000MHz, 95W, Retail will more than suffice to run them with out any kind of a bottlekneck, in fact you could even upgrade to a GTX560ti with out any bottle knecking issues.
September 15, 2011 10:04:12 AM

Uther39 said:
Yes the MSI is the better card, also for such low end cards like these then AMD Phenom II X4 850, Propus Quad Core, S AM3, 3.3GHz, 2MB Cache, HT 2000MHz, 95W, Retail will more than suffice to run them with out any kind of a bottlekneck, in fact you could even upgrade to a GTX560ti with out any bottle knecking issues.

well i need a low profile with hdmi, that will fit in a 350w psu. so im very limited to video cards. 350w is the biggest i can find for this small form factor pc. but really level 3 cache isnt that big of a deal on cpu's?
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September 15, 2011 10:06:46 AM

No not for the GPU you will be running, its more important for the high end GPUs.
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September 15, 2011 10:07:10 AM

What exactly is your PC again, do you have a link i can look at ?
September 15, 2011 10:08:31 AM

Uther39 said:
No not for the GPU you will be running, its more important for the high end GPUs.

ok well i wonder if i cant return my asus for the msi. but the asus has fuse protection and double glue from cracking i wonder if i should just keep it. and aslo protection from dust getting into the bearings for longer life. i might just keep it.. and overclock it to 800mhz and keep it like that.
September 15, 2011 10:21:28 AM

its a acer aspire x3400g
3.1 ghz amd athlon ii x2
1terabyte 7200rpm harddrive
4gig dual channel ram ddr3
nvidia 9200 intergrated graphics.
hdmi port and like 8 usbs.
what else do you wanna know?.
im just trying to make it a bit better upgrading somethings. i know i should build my own but im lazy and dont know how to do that like the cmos and all that. its nice and small and perfect. i do everything through my 40 inch toshiba 1080p hdtv. so i look for cards that have hdmi.
September 15, 2011 10:25:20 AM

im trying to make it a good enough computer for diablo 3 when it comes out. i sold my xbox 360. so i might download some newer games and play them on low settings. i also like to play emulators like playstation and gamecube. but gamecube demands alot.
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September 15, 2011 10:54:49 AM

I see your system now, you are really going to be restricted by size on this one, and you may even want to consider a new build after selling the Acer on ebay, before you start throwing money away on trying to desperately upgrade this system, have you bought that PSU yet and how much was it?
September 15, 2011 10:57:49 AM

i bought a 350w psu that fits perfectly in this small pc. its the highest i can find its was 70 bucks. i bought the computer brand new for 300 with my walmart discount. and i bought the 65 dollar asus gt430 card. the next thing im gunna buy and is the 120 dollar amd phenom 850 x4 cpu with maybe a aftermarket cooling for like 30 bucks. i know i should of just bought a stater gaming deal on newegg or something but this is what i have so ill go with it. thank you for responding to all my newb questions. i really appreciate the help.
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September 15, 2011 11:03:25 AM

No worries fella, glad to be of help, with your upgrades it wont be a bad little system at all, i tell you what though for games like diablo @1080p we really need to try and boost your GPU performance, so give me a minute to to a PSU calc of your proposed system and lets see what you can squeeze in there GPU wise.
September 15, 2011 11:09:21 AM

ok yea i tried that little psu calc but im not really sure whats all in my system. i use a usb wireless n adapter and thats all thats plugged in my computer usually. so i dont really use the usbs that much. yea i was thinking about that i probably wont beable to run diablo huh? thats why im doing all this lol. i can't put a 125w cpu in this i think the motherboard only supports up to 95w. therefore im limited to good cpus like black editions and whatnot. this is awesome tho. this small pc will be alright for a mid gamer pc/ media center pc. i might need to take back the asus because of the tall fanshroud and the height of where my x16 slot is with my tower. ill have to see. so either the asus or msi ill have to deal with. i cant think of any other good cards that have hdmi, and lowprofile with low wattage under 350.
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September 15, 2011 11:13:14 AM

OK with your proposed system using the Phenom 850 plus all the other components you could get away with running a ASUS ENGTX550 TI



Its a great little card and would give you a big performance leap over the 430 which i no you have bought already the 550ti is $109 after rebate on new egg so is a definate bargain, if your 430 is from new egg see if they will let you swap them out, if not then its a definite upgrade for the future, also if your going to buy an after market cooler for your 850 make sure it will fit your case before buying.
September 15, 2011 11:17:24 AM

see i seen that exact card while shopping. the x16 slot is at the very top of my computer. its cant fit the double height card. but i would of bought that right now!. ill try to send a pic of it, also hey should i upgrad to 8gig of ram? cause my system supports it. will that help anything?
September 15, 2011 11:19:02 AM

Uther39 said:
OK with your proposed system using the Phenom 850 plus all the other components you could get away with running a ASUS ENGTX550 TI

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-121-435-TS?$S300W$

Its a great little card and would give you a big performance leap over the 430 which i no you have bought already the 550ti is $109 after rebate on new egg so is a definate bargain, if your 430 is from new egg see if they will let you swap them out, if not then its a definite upgrade for the future, also if your going to buy an after market cooler for your 850 make sure it will fit your case before buying.

http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/ima... my x16 slot is at the very top! im very limited :( 
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September 15, 2011 11:22:50 AM

If your running 64 bit, then yes it will definitely help over system performance in everyday tasks and gaming, if your OS is only 32bit then just keep it to 4gb, DDR3 is cheap at the moment so its a good upgrade path to take.

Yeah if you could post a pic of the inside of your PC that would defo help me find you a card.

Good RAM.....

4gb kit = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8gb kit = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 15, 2011 11:24:14 AM

OMG i see what you mean, ok lets see....
September 15, 2011 11:33:13 AM

yea so i think the card i picked was the best choice for this small form acer. so the 850 amd, the 350w psu, the asus gt430or msi gt440, the 2x2 kingston ram kit.. maybe it should be decent.
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September 15, 2011 11:38:58 AM

Ok ive been reading up on GPUs, and ATI does have Blu Ray acceleration on its 6000 series cards, and you can buy a much better single slot AMD card than nvidia card so here goes take a look.

XFX HD-667X-ZAF3 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card



$80 after rebate, now this little card will stomp all over both the 430 and 440 from nvidia.
September 15, 2011 11:41:23 AM

true very nice lol, but your forgetting my low profile need. its needs to be smaller width wise. note the low profile bracket on the cards i was buying i need that because thats the width of my computer :)  im very limited i guess
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September 15, 2011 11:45:12 AM

Agh i thought it was just the double slot thing that was the issue, in that case your screwed, lol, sorry to say, have you considered buying a cheap new case to house all your components in as that may be a better solution.
September 15, 2011 11:50:11 AM

hmm i might consider that actually. cause i could buy a bigger psu for everything. umm... i just need to know a case that would fit my motherboard. as of right now i guess the things im getting will have to suffice. thank you for your help and suggestions. it looks like what i picked out is best i can get with my pc. it should be decent tho right? 8gig ddr3 ram, 3.3 quadcore amd phenom, 1gig gt430 350w psu. should be alright for some games on low. with no overclocking.

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September 15, 2011 11:55:22 AM
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September 15, 2011 11:57:10 AM

All the above cases will fit your mobo, and with your proposed system you would be able to play games on low settings, but i think you will soo tire of how shabby it looks on your 1080p screen.
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September 15, 2011 11:58:20 AM

I tell you what you give me a budget to work to and i think i could completely revamp your PC using the components you already have.
September 15, 2011 12:05:26 PM

Uther39 said:
All the above cases will fit your mobo, and with your proposed system you would be able to play games on low settings, but i think you will soo tire of how shabby it looks on your 1080p screen.

hmm when i get more money ill look into one of the ones with the 500w included. pretty cheap. and i wouldnt have to hold back on any cheap cards. ill deal with this for now. get my cpu and ram. probably take back the 70 dollar psu and but the tower with the 500w psu. put all my pc guts into the new one and buy a nice video card. and bam! should be up to par with some decent gaming. for now ill deal i guess. diablo doesnt come out soon i dont think.
September 15, 2011 12:09:06 PM

id say i can spend like 400 at the moment. then in 2 weeks another 300 or so.
September 23, 2011 6:22:47 AM

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