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June 19, 2011 6:21:49 AM

Every time I visit my parents I can't stand using their excruciatingly slow computer. My dad can't play any video games on it despite owning some, and browsing the internet is a day long task on that pile of junk metal.

I want to split the cost of a new computer for them between myself and my 2 brothers, hopefully keeping the cost below $600 ($200 each). I wanted to see if you guys have any opinions on ways I can improve/cheapen the build:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$115

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50

GPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$95

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$42

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50

DVD player: Any $20 combo drive, shouldn't be hard to find.

OS: Windows 7.

They have an old crappy monitor/keyboard/mouse that will work fine.

Excluding the OS, that's roughly $475 for what seems to me to be a decent build for my dad to run a few video games including call of duty and for my mom to open an internet browser in less than 5 minutes.

Does anyone see any problems with this build/can offer some advice as to ways to improve it? Thanks

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June 19, 2011 6:33:55 AM

Hi there, welcome to the forums.

Good project! I like it.
Now, I'd like you to answer some questions please. It will help me determine what you need.

How serious is your dad gaming? What games does he play (listing the newest/most demanding game he wants will work. eg, Skyrim.)

What is the monitor res?

What kind of environment is the case in? Like, cabinet, shelf, or open air.

When do you intend to buy the PC?

I assume you prefer newegg, so we will go with that.

Do you live near a Microcenter? ( www.microcenter.com )

Answer those questions and I should be able to help you out.

Cheers!
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June 19, 2011 6:58:39 AM

striker410 said:
Hi there, welcome to the forums.

Good project! I like it.
Now, I'd like you to answer some questions please. It will help me determine what you need.

How serious is your dad gaming? What games does he play (listing the newest/most demanding game he wants will work. eg, Skyrim.)

What is the monitor res?

What kind of environment is the case in? Like, cabinet, shelf, or open air.

When do you intend to buy the PC?

I assume you prefer newegg, so we will go with that.

Do you live near a Microcenter? ( www.microcenter.com )

Answer those questions and I should be able to help you out.

Cheers!

Thanks for the quick response, I always love this forum.

My dad isn't the most serious gamer in the world, he currently has Call of Duty 4 installed on his computer, but can't run it. I think he'd play more games if the computer wasn't terrible, which is one reason I'm hoping to give him some room to expand by not giving him the bare minimum PC. I think he would stick to first person shooters, but once again, he's never had a PC that was half way useful so I can't be sure.

The res on the monitor is currently set to 1024x788, but it seems it can go up to 1280x1024. It's nothing special, but it'll work so it's up to him to upgrade that.

It is on a shelf in a computer desk thing, open air on the front and back, enclosed on the sides, top and bottom.

Not sure when I intend to buy it, but at the very latest it would be a christmas present. I'm not in a rush to spend a bunch of money :) .

As far as newegg goes, I mostly use it because I find their prices to be very reasonable and the selection is vast, but I've purchased from many different places and am willing to buy from anywhere with the better prices.

And there doesn't appear to be any micro centers in Wisconsin, so no to that question
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June 19, 2011 7:34:56 AM

Here's the build I came up with based off your criteria and your base build. It's more powerful though. At 1280x1024, I expect it to get the coveted 125FPS on COD4, MAXED OUT! Should be BF3 ready also...

CPU: Athon II x3 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: G.Skill 2x2GB 1333MHz $39
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec Earthwatts 380w PSU $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard (no USB3 or sata3. Figured your parents wont be needing it :p ) ASRock 880G LE $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Sapphire 6770 $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Xigmatek Asgard II (It has the Tom's nod) $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burner: Sony Optiarc + Lightscribe $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And my total comes to $423 :)  Leaves room for a nice HD monitor.
Tell me what you think!
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June 19, 2011 7:43:57 AM

striker410 said:
Here's the build I came up with based off your criteria and your base build. It's more powerful though. At 1280x1024, I expect it to get the coveted 125FPS on COD4, MAXED OUT! Should be BF3 ready also...

CPU: Athon II x3 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: G.Skill 2x2GB 1333MHz $39
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec Earthwatts 380w PSU $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard (no USB3 or sata3. Figured your parents wont be needing it :p ) ASRock 880G LE $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Sapphire 6770 $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Xigmatek Asgard II (It has the Tom's nod) $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burner: Sony Optiarc + Lightscribe $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And my total comes to $423 :)  Leaves room for a nice HD monitor.
Tell me what you think!


Thanks for the response!

Few questions:
I'm an intel guy so I don't know much about AMD processors, all the pcs I've build have been relatively high end and strictly intel processors. Do you think that downgrading the processor to the x3 will have a significant impact on the speed of the pc or should it be fine?

And the PSU, I've always gone overkill with PSU's just in case, is 380W for sure going to be fine?

Also, what's your reasoning for the upgrade to the 6770 over the 5770? Clearly newer would be better, but shouldn't a 5770 be plenty and be cheaper?

And this is more of a comment than a question, I like my computer cases with shiny LED lights so the few weeks out of the year that I visit my parents, I have some eye candy, I'll probably splurge and get something with LED fans :) 

I probably won't be including a monitor, for the number of games my dad plays, I'm sure his current gear will work fine, he's not as into gaming/computers as me :) 
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June 19, 2011 7:54:53 AM

Ok, let's talk it out.

Yes I dropped to an x3. Why? For this system, it doesn't matter. You really don't need more than a dual core, but for $15 more I figured hell, why not. In gaming systems, most of the time there is a GPU bottleneck. Such is the case here. If you want, upgrade to an Athlon II x4 640 for $25 more. It won't make much difference though.

-A 6770 pulls very little power. So do the rest of the components. For sheer price, there's no reason to get something more powerful. I've used an Earthwatts 500, thing was whisper quiet. Loved the line ever since. But yes, 380w is perfectly fine.

-I didnt realize you had a 5770 in your build, the link was broken. I assumed it was like a 6670 since it was $95

-and yeah, you can upgrade the case a bit. The Rosewill Challenger is an excellent case, it has a big ole LED fan right there on the front :) 

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June 19, 2011 8:04:53 AM

striker410 said:
Ok, let's talk it out.

Yes I dropped to an x3. Why? For this system, it doesn't matter. You really don't need more than a dual core, but for $15 more I figured hell, why not. In gaming systems, most of the time there is a GPU bottleneck. Such is the case here. If you want, upgrade to an Athlon II x4 640 for $25 more. It won't make much difference though.

-A 6770 pulls very little power. So do the rest of the components. For sheer price, there's no reason to get something more powerful. I've used an Earthwatts 500, thing was whisper quiet. Loved the line ever since. But yes, 380w is perfectly fine.

-I didnt realize you had a 5770 in your build, the link was broken. I assumed it was like a 6670 since it was $95

-and yeah, you can upgrade the case a bit. The Rosewill Challenger is an excellent case, it has a big ole LED fan right there on the front :) 


Well as long as the bottleneck isn't the CPU and your solution will save money then I can live with that :) 

Yeah, just noticed the link was broken, on newegg the 5770 is $90 after rebate, but a $5 shipping charge and the 6770 is $98 after the rebate with free shipping, so depending on the prices when I end up ordering it, I might go with a 6770 if it's $3 more.

Thanks for all your help, with my student discount on Windows 7, I can include the OS and your whole setup for under $500. Perfect :) 
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June 19, 2011 8:05:40 AM

Best answer selected by whoisme555.
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June 19, 2011 8:08:29 AM

Well thanks for that! If I might add, you might ask in the CPU section of the forum about x3 vs x4. They have more expertise in that area. Glad you got it worked out though!
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