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June 19, 2011 10:08:09 PM

Hello this will be my first computer build ever. I do have some help and have posted on this forum before but i have some changes/updates to add to the build and some different questions to ask. My price range is between $1300-$1600

Computer Case - NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower
$139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I need to know if A this computer case will support the motherboard i have picked? Also if the case will be able to fit the video card below?

Processor - Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
$314.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is the processor me and my brother picked out. He is very knowledgable about computers and told me that the 2500 is about the same and wont notice much of a difference but since im going to school for programming this would be the better choice in the long run.

Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now this motherboard was suggested to me by a member of the tomshardware forums. My brother said I would need to have the larger motherboards that are out to support everything thatll go in the computer. My question is will this support the video card, processor, fit in the case, and also support a 8-12gb memory drive 4x3 or 2x4. As you can tell im sort of lost on the RAM and motherboard im kind of a noob at all this.

Video Card - SAPPHIRE 100311SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
$349.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This card seems to be the best for playing games on max settings and to support my 38" Samsung HDTV ill be using as a monitor. Ive been seeing a lot of resolution issues with the others in the 6950 category.

RAM - ?
Power Supply - ?

What else do I need to make this a beast of a machine for my price range. Any suggestions and help is greatly appreciated. Im very excited thisll be my first real computer. Thanks in advance.




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June 19, 2011 10:33:24 PM

Your case will fit the motherboard, no problems about that.

The video card will fit as well with room to spare.

RAM:
2x4GB 1600Mhz kit from Corsair, GSkill, Kingston or Mushkin. Preferably with low profile heat sinks for best compatibility with the HSF for your CPU.
These generally run in the $70-$100 range depending on sales.

Power Supply:

Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, Enermax
Depending on if you are going to go Crossfire with the 6970 at some point.
650W if you don't, 850W if you do.
These generally range from about $80-$200 depending on the 80+ Rating, Modularity, Manufacturer and Warranty.


HSF for overclocking:
From Cooler Master Hyper 212+ from amazon ~$30
up to about $80 for Noctual NH-D14.
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June 19, 2011 10:49:32 PM

OK I'm really really new and that looks like a foreign language to me. Pretend I know absolutely nothing and tell Mr again haha.
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June 19, 2011 11:20:01 PM

You should get i5 2500k instead of i7 2600k for gaming, save $100 and its the same performance for gaming
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June 20, 2011 12:07:48 AM

Nit just for gaming ooze thanks though I went with regular 2600 and got it for 230$ instead of 289.99$ great deal.
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June 20, 2011 5:33:32 AM

will you oc because the 2600 will not oc that much the k are the ones that can actually oc
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June 20, 2011 7:31:43 AM

Ok so a little more info and example products.

Memory:
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With your machine the 1600Mhz DDR3 memory will do just fine. Your system will benefit from having 2 memory modules to take advantage of Dual Channel memory configuration practically doubling the memory speed. Included is decently priced kits from GSkill and Corsair. Since you will not be doing overclocking as you seem to be going with the 2600 instead of the 2600k the heat sink height should not be a problem.

One of the following will do nicely: ( all DDR3, CAS9, 1600MHz )
GSkill Sniper 2x4GB kit $82.99
Gskill Ripjaws 2x4GB kit $84.99
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB kit $84.99

Power supply:
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If you intend to get a second 6970 video card to run in crossfire, which means that you have 2 video card working in tandem giving you more power to render the graphics. Most likely you don't need this unless you are running very high monitor resolutions that are over 1920x1200 or running multiple monitors.
But if you would like to have the option to do so, the 850Watt power supply will provide you with the option to do so. Bigger wattage power supplies cost more so if you don't plan on doing this then there is no point in spending more than what the 650Watt power supplies cost.

The 80+ ratings list the efficiency of the power supplies:
80+ rating: Gold > Silver > Bronze > "white"
approx: 90%, 87%, 85%, 82% = efficiency
The more efficient the power supply the less power it draws from the grid to power your computers components.

Modular: means you can attach only the cables you need and all cables are like that. This helps airflow and to clean up clutter inside the case.
Semi modular: means the most commonly used cables are fixed to the power supply, but some of the cables can be attached to the power supply only if needed.
Fixed: means all the cables are fixed to the power supply and can not be removed, possibly causing clutter inside the case and obstructing airflow.

Here are some examples, mainly from Corsair and they do generally have nice warranties on their PSU's between 5-7 years.
But generally any of the following manufacturers will be fine so you have a lot of choice: Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, Enermax.

Here are some choices for power supplies in 650W and 850W ranges.

650W:
Modular:
Seasonic X650 80+Gold $139.99

Semi modular:
Corsair HX650 80+Bronze $119.99 ( $109.99 with the rebate )

Fixed cables:
Corsair TX650 V2 80+Bronze $89.99 ( $74.99 with the rebate )


850W:

Modular:
Corsair AX850 80+Gold $189.99

Semi modular:
Corsair HX850 80+Silver $164.99 ( $149.99 with the rebate )

Fixed cables:
Corsair TX850 V2 80+Bronze $134.99 ( $119.99 with the rebate )

Hopefully this helps with memory and power supply seleciton.
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June 20, 2011 9:58:41 AM

Seriously thank you so much ill be posting my final and compltete build on here soon for a last minute compatibility check I changed a lot around cause people sere telling me technology is way ahead so I don't need the best of the best til the software catches up. Ill post them tonight. Thx so much Rvikman.

rvilkman said:
Ok so a little more info and example products.

Memory:
======
With your machine the 1600Mhz DDR3 memory will do just fine. Your system will benefit from having 2 memory modules to take advantage of Dual Channel memory configuration practically doubling the memory speed. Included is decently priced kits from GSkill and Corsair. Since you will not be doing overclocking as you seem to be going with the 2600 instead of the 2600k the heat sink height should not be a problem.

One of the following will do nicely: ( all DDR3, CAS9, 1600MHz )
GSkill Sniper 2x4GB kit $82.99
Gskill Ripjaws 2x4GB kit $84.99
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB kit $84.99

Power supply:
===========

If you intend to get a second 6970 video card to run in crossfire, which means that you have 2 video card working in tandem giving you more power to render the graphics. Most likely you don't need this unless you are running very high monitor resolutions that are over 1920x1200 or running multiple monitors.
But if you would like to have the option to do so, the 850Watt power supply will provide you with the option to do so. Bigger wattage power supplies cost more so if you don't plan on doing this then there is no point in spending more than what the 650Watt power supplies cost.

The 80+ ratings list the efficiency of the power supplies:
80+ rating: Gold > Silver > Bronze > "white"
approx: 90%, 87%, 85%, 82% = efficiency
The more efficient the power supply the less power it draws from the grid to power your computers components.

Modular: means you can attach only the cables you need and all cables are like that. This helps airflow and to clean up clutter inside the case.
Semi modular: means the most commonly used cables are fixed to the power supply, but some of the cables can be attached to the power supply only if needed.
Fixed: means all the cables are fixed to the power supply and can not be removed, possibly causing clutter inside the case and obstructing airflow.

Here are some examples, mainly from Corsair and they do generally have nice warranties on their PSU's between 5-7 years.
But generally any of the following manufacturers will be fine so you have a lot of choice: Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, Enermax.

Here are some choices for power supplies in 650W and 850W ranges.

650W:
Modular:
Seasonic X650 80+Gold $139.99

Semi modular:
Corsair HX650 80+Bronze $119.99 ( $109.99 with the rebate )

Fixed cables:
Corsair TX650 V2 80+Bronze $89.99 ( $74.99 with the rebate )


850W:

Modular:
Corsair AX850 80+Gold $189.99

Semi modular:
Corsair HX850 80+Silver $164.99 ( $149.99 with the rebate )

Fixed cables:
Corsair TX850 V2 80+Bronze $134.99 ( $119.99 with the rebate )

Hopefully this helps with memory and power supply seleciton.

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June 20, 2011 10:01:20 AM

I have no reason to use overclocking my brother was telling me and he said it'll burn out the mobo faster if I was. Ill mainly be using the computer for gaming movies TV and programming when I start school.

mjmjpfaff said:
will you oc because the 2600 will not oc that much the k are the ones that can actually oc

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June 20, 2011 3:10:02 PM

if anything it would burn out your cpu because of heat. heat is what kills. if you have a good heatsink on an i5 2500k it can be clocked around 4.2ghz and be at temps with the heatsink it comes with at stock speeds.
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June 20, 2011 5:36:26 PM

Thanks for advice mj. I don't plan on doing any OC ay all. I did have another question ill be using my 37" Samsung ToC HDTV its 1080p what's tgr Max resolution I should strive for. I heard 1900x???? Was good and than I see others sayinng 2500x????. I changed my video card to theRadeon HD 6870 after looking at the benchmarks for top video cards. Will this be good for my TV. And what cables will I need to hook computer into TV. I might also use crossfireX and grab another 6870 down the road.

mjmjpfaff said:
if anything it would burn out your cpu because of heat. heat is what kills. if you have a good heatsink on an i5 2500k it can be clocked around 4.2ghz and be at temps with the heatsink it comes with at stock speeds.

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June 20, 2011 6:11:11 PM

you mean 6970. for 1080p the 6970 is overkill i would go with a single 6950 or 560ti and then upgrade in a month or so.

for crossfire you need a crossfire bridge. i think the video card should come with it

you also need a 850w psu for 6970 cf, but only 750w for 6950 or 560 ti cf

you can probably use vga or hdmi to plug into the t.v., did you have a desktop before because it probably has a vga cable you can use
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June 20, 2011 7:06:27 PM

My wish list git deleted on newegg its wasn't the 6900 series it was either the 6700 or 6800 series. I'm gonna be reposting thread with entire computer hardware list for last minute check. Ill post link in here when I do. I have everything saved on my PC at home in doing this all on my phone ATM.
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June 25, 2011 12:25:17 AM

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