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June 20, 2011 1:10:12 AM

Hello, I'm new to these forums so hopefully posting in the right place(sorry if not)

I'm building a desktop, first time, and just asking for some advice on these parts. I live in New Zealand so buying from the sites listed below the part.

Here they are:

Asus P8P67-M PRO Intel P67 mATX 1155 RAID CrossFireX SLI 1394 USB3.0 SATA3 (Revised B3 Chipset) Motherboard
http://www.elive.co.nz/asus-p8p67-m-pro-motherboard-sy3...

Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40 GHz 8M LGA1155 Processor
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

CORSAIR CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 VENGEANCE 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL8
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Antec One Hundred Black Gaming Case, No PSU
http://www.elive.co.nz/antec-one-hundred-black-case-ac1...

Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus, 700W ATX PSU, Black
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemI...

ASUS ENGTS450 DC OC/DI/1GD5 GEFORCE GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB ST31000524AS 32MB SATA 3 6GB/S
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Asus DRW-24B3LT Lightscribe SATA 24xDVDRW Black
http://www.elive.co.nz/asus-drw-24b3lt-lightscribe-dvdr...

Deepcool Ice Wind FS, CPU Cooler, 120mm, Black
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemI...

Is this a decent build?
Any parts I'm buying that are crap?
Any recommendations?
Anything I'm missing?
Questions like that.

Cheers Hugo.

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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 1:34:37 AM

Hey Hugo, welcome to the forums.
Not to bad a build! Very CPU heavy, but it might be good for what you need it for.

Which by the way, what is the intended use of the PC?
If it's gaming, we got some serious issues my friend. If it's rendering, you have some unnecessary parts.
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June 20, 2011 2:27:04 AM

Ah yes, should have said what it was for sorry.

It'll be used for a bit of gaming but mainly for video editing and that. Programming and web design as well, starting computer science at university in a few weeks.

I know I probably don't need that much power from the cpu, but hey, thought while I can sfford it I might as well by a good comp that'll last me for a while.

Hope that helps.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 2:44:52 AM

Ahh, ok. So here's the deal. For gaming, you need more GPU power than CPU power. That means you need a WAY better GPU. Since you do video editing and gaming, I suggest going with a GTX 570 under the assumption that you use CS5. The GTX 570 allows you to use the Mercury Playback Engine, something that unlocks some advanced features in CS5. If you don't use CS5, I would suggest the 570 anyway.

Here's a comparison of the GTS 450 and the GTX 570: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/306?vs=316 As you can see, it's not fair at all. Ingame and for render.

The other thing is get a Z68 motherboard, preferably one with SLI.
The reason for Z68 is quicksync. Quicksync is a feature that has been proven to significantly speed up render times, This very site did a review of it (to lazy to link)

And 2 more points. Get a different PSU, preferably 750w in case you want to SLI. Get one from Corsair, XFX, Silverstone, Seasonic, or Antec.

Get another CPU cooler. The Hyper 212+ is an excellent cooler, not sure if it's available there.

Last suggestion is a sexier case. If you like the look of the 100, don't change it. I'm partial to the HAF 912 myself.
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June 20, 2011 3:07:22 AM

thank you very much striker410. Extremely helpful. I'll have a rebuild soon and post it later, hopefully it'll be all good this time.

To me, a case is just a case, I'm not too concerned about looks. Though a nice one would be a bonus.

Once again, thanks a lot mate.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 3:13:49 AM

No prob! I edited a crucial part of my post. You need more GPU power than CPU power * got the c and g mixed up :p 
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June 20, 2011 3:29:05 AM

And another question, I don't even need an i7 do i? and i5 would be fine?

Because changing my parts will probably add extra money to the total.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 3:33:30 AM

Ahh, the 2500k is an excellent processor. I was thinking about suggesting the swap anyway.
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June 20, 2011 3:40:35 AM

Well, that's my processor then!

Sorry for all the questions, but just two more and I should be gone.

Is the motherboard that I have on that list, is it still a decent one?(I heard its good OC'ing) Think the one you mentioned is a bit pricey.

And secondly, is the RAM that i picked worth getting as well?

Cheers.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 3:54:43 AM

Well here's something you might not know. P67 is what's called a northbridge. It's the chipset that the motherboard houses. Many, many boards have that chipset, making it a generic term. Same goes for Z68. If you search Z68 on one of those sites, it should have multiple boards. Some are cheap, some are expensive. Pick one in the middle. Make sure it has the DVI out and SLI compatibility. Asides from that, it doesn't matter.

I am not familiar with prices over there, but that ram seems very expensive. any 8GB (2x4) kit of 1600MHz DDR3 will work.
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June 20, 2011 4:35:49 AM

So this is my re done build after the input you have given...

GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 INTEL Z68 DDR3 USB3+SATA3 RAID SLI+ CROSSFIRE LGA1155 PCI-E
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

INTEL CORE I5 2500K SANDY BRIDGE 3.30GHZ 6MB 95W LGA1155
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

KINGSTON HYPERX 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3-1600 KIT CL9
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Antec One Hundred Black Gaming Case, No PSU
http://www.elive.co.nz/antec-one-hundred-black-case-ac1...

CORSAIR TX750 V2 ENTHUSIAST SERIES POWER SUPPLY
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

GIGABYTE NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX550 TI 1GB GDDR5 (GV-N550OC-1GI)
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB ST31000524AS 32MB SATA 3 6GB/S
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Asus DRW-24B3LT Lightscribe SATA 24xDVDRW Black
http://www.elive.co.nz/asus-drw-24b3lt-lightscribe-dvdr...

Deepcool Ice Wind FS, CPU Cooler, 120mm, Black
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemI...


I didn't got for the GTX 570 like you recommended because I'm by no means that into my gaming to spend the amount for that card.

I didn't change the fan, but I probably will soon though.

Also, is a 750 watt PSU really needed, would the first one i mentioned been adequate?

Hope this is good this time, Thanks so much for the help you have given.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 4:45:52 AM

Looks pretty good. A few things though.

The big question how serious do you video edit (ie professional, amateur, hobby)? And do you use CS5?

The next thing is I would prefer a full ATX motherboard. One like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... If it's not available at your local shops, no biggie, get the one you linked.

And don't go 550 ti. Look for a GTX 460 (no SE) they are around the same price but have more cores and performance.
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June 20, 2011 5:11:41 AM

Oh yes, mostly hobby. and yes do use CS5.

Cool thanks, will look at motherboard and card now.

For motherboards there's these two.

http://www.elive.co.nz/gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3h-b3-dv4493.p...

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

They're probably a strain on the bank haha, but if they're worth the extra money then get it.

Also, I originally listed the Asus P8P67-M PRO Intel P67 mATX, just out of curiousity, why is that one not worth getting?
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June 20, 2011 5:47:26 AM

Thank you so much striker410. Looks like most of this is sorted.

Your expertise were very much appreciated!!!

Cheers, Hugo.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 6:01:23 AM

One of the last things. Ditch the 750w. Get a quality 650w, it's all you'll need. If it has 4x6pins that would be great.

I guess this is the other question. Do you plan on doing SLI anytime? Idk if you know what it is, but it's when you harness the power of 2 cards in the same system and combine the power. If not, something like the CX 500 (corsair) would work.
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June 20, 2011 9:00:44 AM

Thanks for that, Nah, probably won't be doing SLI.
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June 20, 2011 10:52:18 AM

So I think this is looking looking like the final outcome, I took your advice and did upgrade my motherboard. I saved some money downgrading from the i7 to the i5, so thought I would.

I also changed the PSU to a Corsair CX500 like you recommended. Won't be under powered?

I haven't changed my graphics because I can't see the GTX460 at to many places, but I'll keep looking

Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 ATX Intel LGA1155 Motherboard
http://www.elive.co.nz/gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3h-b3-dv4493.p...

INTEL CORE I5 2500K SANDY BRIDGE 3.30GHZ 6MB 95W LGA1155
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

KINGSTON HYPERX 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3-1600 KIT CL9
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

COOLERMASTER CM STORM SCOUT GAMING CASE NO PSU
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Corsair 500W CX-500v2 ATX Power Supply, 80 PLUS
http://www.elive.co.nz/corsair-500w-atc-power-supply-ac...

GIGABYTE NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX550 TI 1GB GDDR5 (GV-N550OC-1GI)
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB ST31000524AS 32MB SATA 3 6GB/S x 2
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Asus DRW-24B3LT Lightscribe SATA 24xDVDRW Black
http://www.elive.co.nz/asus-drw-24b3lt-lightscribe-dvdr...

COOLERMASTER HYPER 212 PLUS CPU COOLER
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentvie...

Lets hope this is drawing to the final one!

Cheers.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 20, 2011 4:12:13 PM

Yup, looks pretty good. I still suggest you hunt around for a GTX 460, but if you can't find one ANYWHERE then I suppose the 550 ti could do. I found one, only mildly more expensive: http://www.elive.co.nz/asus-gtx-460-1gb-video-sy2757.ph... I suggest you get it. You need the extra cores for rendering.
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June 20, 2011 11:28:19 PM

Ah, thank you added that to the list now, looks like everything is all done.

Can't stress enough how helpful you were Striker. Thank you so much.
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