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June 21, 2011 12:22:07 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: June 25

Budget Range: 2400-2800$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming...

Parts Not Required:I will get everything, even New Monitor.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg all the way. even if I have to pay some more.

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel Sandy Brigde 2600k, Best posible motherboard. and 16GB of memory (or 8GB of a faster one if that will matter). SSD 120gb drive. I have 1 300gb Raptor Drives I can use for Data. but I may get 1 more, and do raid 0. NO Water cooling please, for Case I like Haf X but I am open for sugestions.

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: I was thinking sli 580X or even 590X if stay in my budge

Monitor Resolution: whatever monitor support

Additional Comments: I want the fastest, still the quiest PC I can get. I know its overkill for gaming, but I dont wanna have to worry about PC for next 5 years. so I will get the best I can right now.

More about : 2500 gaming

June 21, 2011 1:09:44 AM

First off I would like to say that 2400-2800 is a lot to work with. Personally if I had that much money to spend I would wait for the the ivy bridge but yes the 2600k is a great choice. Basically get w/e you want along with 2 gtx 580 or even 3 ($900/$1300) considering that sli 580 is better then gtx590. You also need a good psu so get Corsair Professional Series Gold AX1200 ($300), its over kill but it'll last u a while and u have the money to kill. 120 gb ssd should be around $200. For ram 8gb should be enough, you want to get 1.5v as well as 1600mhz ($100). HAF X ($200). mobo Asus Maximus IV Extreme, get the z series if u want, both allow u to tri-sli ($350). CPU cooler definitely d-14 ($90). Lets not forget the cpu itself 2600k (300). And that adds up to about... $2440, add another gtx 580 and its about 2.9k. Almost right on the dot.
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June 21, 2011 4:16:46 AM

killer8297 said:
First off I would like to say that 2400-2800 is a lot to work with. Personally if I had that much money to spend I would wait for the the ivy bridge but yes the 2600k is a great choice. Basically get w/e you want along with 2 gtx 580 or even 3 ($900/$1300) considering that sli 580 is better then gtx590. You also need a good psu so get Corsair Professional Series Gold AX1200 ($300), its over kill but it'll last u a while and u have the money to kill. 120 gb ssd should be around $200. For ram 8gb should be enough, you want to get 1.5v as well as 1600mhz ($100). HAF X ($200). mobo Asus Maximus IV Extreme, get the z series if u want, both allow u to tri-sli ($350). CPU cooler definitely d-14 ($90). Lets not forget the cpu itself 2600k (300). And that adds up to about... $2440, add another gtx 580 and its about 2.9k. Almost right on the dot.



Thats how I need Help, I havent build a PC since AMD Athlons. what parts are compatible with what ?

what is a good monitor? mouse and Keyboard?
can I fit the D-14 on that case, or should I buy another case? what fans are less noise.
what is a good 580GTX? Brand? 1.5 or 3.0GB mem?
what SSD is good? and what memory you recomend to go with the Asus Maximus IV Extreme Z68?


I will aprettiate if someone can do a build for me, with link to the parts I need to buy. and I wont wait for sandy Brigde. I tried to buy this pc in January, then whatever happend, I couldnt, and I waited 6months. if I keep waiting, I will get a computer in 2025 lol. I need to replace mine SOON. Windows Vista is giving me too much problems, cant even reconigze my USB ports.
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June 21, 2011 5:05:51 AM

hey sandy bridge is out. do you mean ivy bridge?

for gaming the 2500k is the best cpu out there: 220$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 198$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: 184$ http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-ATX12V-EPS12V-Modular...

Case: 178$ http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Steel-Computer-Window...

Gpu's: x2= 660$ http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Ex... -6970 in cf run almost on par with gtx 580's

HDD: 60$ http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern...

SSD: 220$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -the 240gb if you can afford it

RAM: 77$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: 83$ http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH...

Monitors: x3= 420$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -you can get bigger ones. if you are spending that much money you need a high res. monitor setup or there is no reason to spend that money at all

mouse: 35$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

keyboard: i think any generic wired one is fine but if you want to spend some money- 65$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

did i miss anything?
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June 21, 2011 5:11:34 AM

^ Here is a High-End build,...
i7 2600K + ASUS P67 WS - Full x16 bandwidth on 2 PCIe slots,... which also overclock very good,...
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/P67-Motherboard-Roundup-...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM - Get this one - Nice deal ends today though or ended am not sure,...
20% off w/ promo code EMCKDJF26, ends 6/20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE + PSU -
CM HAF X + CM Silent PRO Gold 1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OCZ Agility 3 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - If the regular F3 is not available, get the F3R - Costlier, but is an enterprise version with 5 years warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card - GTX 580 sure is the most powerful, but do you really want to spend $150 more?? Also anyways you will be getting 2 in SLI, so GTX 570 in SLI vs GTX 580 in SLI would make no difference for a single monitor,...
GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also you can go Tri-SLI on that board if you want to also that 1KW PSU will power 3x GTX 570s fine,...
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June 21, 2011 5:23:10 AM

gkay09 said:

Video card - GTX 580 sure is the most powerful, but do you really want to spend $150 more?? Also anyways you will be getting 2 in SLI, so GTX 570 in SLI vs GTX 580 in SLI would make no difference for a single monitor,...
GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also you can go Tri-SLI on that board if you want to also that 1KW PSU will power 3x GTX 570s fine,...


if you are going to spend that much money you need at least tri-monitor setup
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June 21, 2011 5:34:36 AM

chepin said:
Thats how I need Help, I havent build a PC since AMD Athlons. what parts are compatible with what ?

what is a good monitor? mouse and Keyboard?
can I fit the D-14 on that case, or should I buy another case? what fans are less noise.
what is a good 580GTX? Brand? 1.5 or 3.0GB mem?
what SSD is good? and what memory you recomend to go with the Asus Maximus IV Extreme Z68?


I will aprettiate if someone can do a build for me, with link to the parts I need to buy. and I wont wait for sandy Brigde. I tried to buy this pc in January, then whatever happend, I couldnt, and I waited 6months. if I keep waiting, I will get a computer in 2025 lol. I need to replace mine SOON. Windows Vista is giving me too much problems, cant even reconigze my USB ports.


CPU: I strongly recommend getting the i5 2500k if you are only gaming on this PC; the performance is +-1% compared to the i7 2600k, and the $100 can be spent on other areas that will benefit the PC's performance more.. but if you many many applications then the hyperthreading that the i7 has will help and be worth it
Psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Buy this when its $110 after rebate; they generally sell it for $150 then drop it down to $110.. so make sure you buy at the right time... it's really good, really excellent reviews, except from 1 reviewer..Really quiet, matches any corsair. If it stays at $150, or eeven $120, get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... for $155. Both excellent quality and will easily power 2 thirsty overclocked GTX 580s plus an oc'd processor. Tri-sli is a waste.. and dual GTX 590's are too loud and too hot.

GPU (x2): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... Top quality, lifetime warranty, best brand in gfx (EVGA) so.. why not? Other choices are too hot/lloud! Another option is the HD 6970 crossfired, but thats a bit slower..

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... For $90 this is the best value RAM you can get.. almost anyways. It's from the top manufacturer of RAM; g.skill (sorry corsair, you don't win here :/ ) and is 2133mhz ram. For $83~ you get the equivalent g.skill 1600mhz ram. If you lower the frequency of the ram (i,e. to 2000mhz) and decrease the timings (i.e. to cl7~8) then you'll have even faster and yet still stable ram - Giving you a bigger bonus in fps than upgrading to an i7 2600k from an i5 2500k anyways... So $7-17 more than the g,skill 1600mhz ram, but reasonably faster - with your budget, you can indulge in an epeen part that'll help a bit :) 

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A great 8x/8x cf board - Theres no point paying $100 extra for a 16x/16x PCIe slot(s) board. 99% of the performance of 16x/16x for $100 savings.. that's practical.. Theres no point blowing the bank for a $400 motherboard; this one will overclock you to the moon and sli for you easy :) 
If you really want to (rather silly to do so tho :S) dump the boat.. any of the $300-400 ones are good (make sure its socket 1155... nothing else will work!)

Harddrive: IF you have a few raptor HDDs,buy 1 to raid it, unless you download lots of stuff you wont need this HDD...; i personally have 50GB used on my laptop.. most of it is my brothers vids... but here it is if you think you need the space.. otherwise just buy your 2nd raptor, itll be faster,and 600gb ought be enough.. plus an ssd... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This is one fast son of a *****. If you don't want to spend so much on an SSD (i can see why.. but its a reasonable investment..) this is the smaller, slightly slower brother of that same ssd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Note, a 60GB SSD is always slower than a 240GB version of the exact same SSD.... pretty much how a 2cm hammer isn't as effective at hitting someone as a full sized hammer..). Both are good value, but the bigger one is better value if you are willing to drop the cash on it..

CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... REQUIRED For overclocking

Case: This is down to person choice; but note that if you want an antec 1200 then this is the PSU that you ought to buy "http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168..." and heres a link to the antec http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The CP-1000PSU only works in 3 cases, and the antec 1200 is one of them... the cp1000 is really great... really really great.. aand great value $135 for 1000watts of top qual psu..

here are some more suggestions of cases (dont buy the cp1000 with these..):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... the haf cases are a common favourite.. thats the 942,
heres the 932 haf.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... haf has above average airflow.. not too special in that tho, but looks are more important, all the cases ill recommend are adequate in cooling.. esp if you add some fans..

some people like this one.. for some reason. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... really excellent air flow tho..

my personal favourite are lian li.. yeah yeah, asian name, perhaps suggesting not the best quality in the world/mass produced.. but the lian li are actually the top manufacturer when it comes to quality...You ought to browse the whole lian li newegg range... all 64.. or at least the $100 and above range..
my friend bought this lian li and loves it..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... sexy...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That said, with gtx 580's you pretty much need one of the following monitor(s):

A single 2560x1600P monitor
2 1920x1200 or 1920x1080p monitors
3 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 p monitors, otherwise it's a waste of $$. If you just want a normal single monitor, get a single GTX 580, or twin 560Ti's and save yourself some money. A single GTX 580 with get a minimum fps of over 40 with a decent sandy bridge processor on a 1920 x1200 monitor.. and thats the most demanding game.

Overall recommended build (Obviously express your opinions, and we will critique your own ideas, as well as our own ideas ;D):

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPUx2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Scythe mugen
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Sabertooth
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (hx 850), but get the hcg 900 if it goes back to $110.
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 2133MHZ Gskill ram
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Lian Li case. Save $30~-40 getting the HAF X
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 2125 before rebates, 2025 after, and about $2250 after taxes/shippin. It's worth considering getting superclocked GTX 570's, or not getting an SSD and getting your RAID raptor 300GBs going ($100~ for the 2nd one?). RAID and no SSD will save $100~, which will leave you around 650~ for monitors, at current you have 550..

do not be tempted to buy multiple $150~ monitors. They are poor image quality and will not do your graphics card justice in most scenarios..At least $220~ $200 is considered 'low range' for 22" monitors btw..) and the only thing you do LOOK at the monitor.. its important esp for gaming.. You'll need to set aside $600-800 form monitors. dont be shy :D . I dont know if yuo have w7, but you can get a really cheap student copy if u are a student/ have a kid in uni, or its $100...
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June 21, 2011 5:55:02 AM

those 2560x1600's are expensive your money is better spent on multi monitor setups
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June 21, 2011 3:24:53 PM

I would also like to give you a fair warning that you could build a gaming PC to last 4 years @ ~$1400.

You could take that 1000 today and invest it, then buy just about a new PC in 4 or 5 years..

paying another 1k up front to try to get another year out of what will be OLD OLD equipment is really stupid.. you'll have a i-7 @ 4ghz when everybody else is buying cheap 6 Ghz processors that use 40% less power/heat. Will you still be proud of your old piece of junk that you spent an extra 1k on? Proud of your old SLI cards that you paid way too much for vs slightly less new cards that scored 10% less on 3dmark but cost 50% less?

wasting money in my opinion. I think you'll regret it or worse sound stupid bragging about your 4 year old top of the line gaming PC. You're throwing money away for 'premium' parts.

your choice, but i'd definitely warn you to reconsider. that ~$1100 could go a lot further in the future.
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June 22, 2011 1:44:35 AM

I know Joshuaj I just wanna treat me nice. anyway. Thanks you all for the answers

I cant get 3 monitors, I have no space, I am using a 19incs now, I may get a 24incs nothing bigger

I will liste to you guys and go with this setup so far

1) HaF x Case
2) 1000W PSU
3) Maximus z68 Motherbord (is this one worth it. or should I get the P67 I am still scare about the Sata issue. so I rather get the newest chipset)
4) about video cards, I think 2 580GTX may be too much for 1 single 22 or 24inc monitor maybe 2 6970? or 2 560i GTX fermi? or even 1 580GTX? or 1 590GTX?
5) 120GB Agility 3 SSD
6) another 300GB raptor, and use 600GB for data (should I just use my 300GB for windows, buy a small 32gb ssd and use it for boot data or whatever they offer in Z68 board) and just get 2GB 64MB cache super fast drive for data?
7) windows 7 professional 64bit
8) 8GB 2133MHZ memory
9) and the 2500k + D-14 cooler and make it run 4.5ghz
10) 24inc monitor, I may have to go to the store and look at those 27inchs and see how big they are
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June 22, 2011 7:07:51 PM

ok then all you need is 2 6950's
hx 850
gigabyte z68 ud3 motherboard
corsair force 3 120gb ssd (vertex 3 for less 180$ & you might want to get 2 since they are at that price)- use this for windows and your most used apps., and it has all the same internal parts as the vertex 3 it isnt a mistake
1tb samsung spinpoint f3
windows 7 home premium-only for gaming right?
8gb 1600mhz ram- no need for 2133 games only need 1600mhz
+1 to the 2500k and d14
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June 23, 2011 3:53:54 PM

ok so I am about to order the parts!!! took me 7months to make my mind, but this is what I came with.

any Ideas or sugestions

CPU i2600K 320$ I know is 100$ wasted, but sometimes I have to make some videos into dvd, so I will get some use of it.
Cooler D-14 79$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard 200$ I will go with this AS Rock http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Haf X 190$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Suply 200$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory 169$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... cas 6, 8gb 1600mhz
Video cards 2xXFX 6970 700$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... After thinking a bout this, I read someone say this is a bit slower than 580Gtx and for ~300$ less. I take a little slower
SSD 230$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I will use my 300GB raptor for data. that should be enough, and 120GB for windows and apps work just fine
Windows 7 Home Premium 100$
Monitor 369$ samsung http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thats 2557$ perfect for my bugde.

any last min sugestion, or should I go ahead and get this beauty?

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June 23, 2011 4:10:12 PM

haha that ram is so expensive. check out this build-

this is a build that i built for this competition: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/312826-31-bestconfigs...

Intel i5 2500k: 220$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE PURE Black P67: 230$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB): 75$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6950 2GB: x3=840$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD: 60$ http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern...

Corsair Force Series 3 120GB: 210$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

IN WIN Ironclad: 120$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W: 150$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60: 70$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner: 21$ http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=d...

Total: 1996$

type in this promo code at checkout for the ram- DM15JN11US -11.25$

get 2 of those ssd's they are vertex 3's dont mind the bad reviews they fixed the problem

you can get the 2600k if you want

+20$ for the case's shipping

get the corsair ax1200 for this build

change the cpu cooler to the noctua nh-d14 +5$- http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH...

change the motherboard to this one- http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-8P67WS3&c=F... +25$
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June 23, 2011 4:30:36 PM

any Z68 board you can recomend me? I dont wanna do P67 unless they are better. but I am confuse about that, cant find usefull information about the diferent between then

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haha that ram is so expensive. check out this build-

this is a build that i built for this competition: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/312826-31-bestconfigs...

Intel i5 2500k: 220$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE PURE Black P67: 230$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB): 75$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6950 2GB: x3=840$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD: 60$ http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern...

Corsair Force Series 3 120GB: 210$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

IN WIN Ironclad: 120$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W: 150$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60: 70$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner: 21$ http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=d...

Total: 1996$

type in this promo code at checkout for the ram- DM15JN11US -11.25$

get 2 of those ssd's they are vertex 3's dont mind the bad reviews they fixed the problem

you can get the 2600k if you want

+20$ for the case's shipping

get the corsair ax1200 for this build

change the cpu cooler to the noctua nh-d14 +5$- http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH...

change the motherboard to this one- http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-8P67WS3&c=F... +25$

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June 23, 2011 4:32:45 PM

i can tell you right now that you wont use the extras z68's have to offer if you are just gaming
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June 23, 2011 5:50:47 PM

so Z68 is a P67 with more Features? then I want it
witch one you think is good for my build ?
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June 24, 2011 2:02:04 AM

sorry i was gone most of the day golfing.

the z68 just has ssd caching which you wont use because you got 2 big ssd's

and you can use the onboard graphics which you wont use becauseyou have a discrete gpu. three of them :D 
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June 24, 2011 6:04:06 AM

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I would also like to give you a fair warning that you could build a gaming PC to last 4 years @ ~$1400.

You could take that 1000 today and invest it, then buy just about a new PC in 4 or 5 years..

paying another 1k up front to try to get another year out of what will be OLD OLD equipment is really stupid.. you'll have a i-7 @ 4ghz when everybody else is buying cheap 6 Ghz processors that use 40% less power/heat. Will you still be proud of your old piece of junk that you spent an extra 1k on? Proud of your old SLI cards that you paid way too much for vs slightly less new cards that scored 10% less on 3dmark but cost 50% less?

wasting money in my opinion. I think you'll regret it or worse sound stupid bragging about your 4 year old top of the line gaming PC. You're throwing money away for 'premium' parts.

your choice, but i'd definitely warn you to reconsider. that ~$1100 could go a lot further in the future.


Joshua, many parts suggested would be reusable in a build four years from now. For example the Corsair AX 1200 PSU has a seven year warranty and will likely power anything you need four years from now.

The HAF X will also likely still be a contender four years from now and at the very least still be a good mother-in-law case ha, ha.

The GTX 580 should be good for at least two years.

Going cheap isn't the only option. You are right, a very good gaming computer can be built for $1500. But that is not what the OP asked for. You have a point that GPUs and CPUs rapidly go out of date. Even cooling components are changing fast. There is no such thing as a computer that will stay current for four years. But there are people who want to buy the best available and if they can afford it then that's a great blessing.

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June 24, 2011 7:01:17 AM

I have to second what several of the posters in this thread that have recommended the Corsair AX 1200. For your build there is no better, more efficient, more quiet and cool PSU anywhere near the price of the 1200. You can get it for $280 not on sale and $250 on sale. Only the Antec 1200 competes with it and it costs $100 more, it is not fully modular and it really isn't better in any way.

The AX 1200 is fully modular (easy to build with), it will stay above 90% efficient for your projected build, it will power high wattage rigs quietly, it has a 7-year warranty (Corsair's customer service is legendary), it will put out over 1500 W, it will run coolly and not heat up your case and it is relatively cheap compared to other high-end PSUs. It is the Lexus of PSUs.

The Antec 900 W PSU listed earlier struggles to put out its 900 W rating if it is under any stress at all and it is noisy and hot.

I also like the 2600K over the 2500K since you can afford it. It offers little advantage in gaming but it does in other activities.

The Z68 platform also enables superior video encoding and the Z68 boards don't cost much more than the P67 boards. I don't know if you work with video but if you do, the the Z68 is a no-brainer.

You may want to consider a Vertex 3 240GB since it is the fastest SSD out there right now and it is not ungodly expensive. As an alternative two Corsair 3 120 GB SSDS are a steal right now at $180 after rebates.

The GTX 580 or the ATI 6970 cards probably are the only cards to consider in a two-card crossfire or SLI set up. In a three-card setup probably the best bang for your buck by far are three 6950s in crossfire. Evidently, the scaling of the third card has been fixed and this makes this three-way crossfire setup unbeatable against two card systems. You could go to three 6970s but it would probably be a waste of money as three 6950s will destroy any game for the foreseeable future.

A great HIPS monitor is the Dell Ultrasharp U2410. Alternatively you could consider the HP ZR24W. For faster TN monitors, most gamers are going with cheap Asus monitors which "react" slightly faster than the IPS monitors. However you sacrifice a lot of picture quality by going to a TN monitor because the HIPS monitors have a superior picture - they cost more though ($400 - $500). If you wanted to go for a single monitor the Dell Ultra Sharp 27" ($750 - $1000) and 30" are amazing but they are expensive. The 27" would probably fit your budget but not the 30". Alternatively three cheaper Asus 24" monitors would certainly be an amazing setup also, but much more complicated.

The Noctua NH-D14 or the Corsair H60 with two high-end fans added (they are not included) will give the best air cooling options right now. But be aware that both Corsair and Noctua are coming out with new models which will be superior. The advantage of these two coolers is that they offer massive cooling and still stay quiet. Other CPU coolers that cool as well sound like buzz-saws.

For speakers, the Corsair SP2500 speakers are simply amazing 2.1 computer speakers - easily the best computer speakers for the money. They easily beat anything that Logitech offers in clarity and accuracy and the put all other 2.1 speaker systems to shame in comparison (except for expensive separate systems and some $600 - $1000 2.1 systems). I recently got them for $180 on Amazon with free shipping and they sound clearer and more accurate than my $2500 Harmon Kardon 5.1 system. The bass is amazing.

Get a good sound card like the Asus Xonar Dx to go along with the speakers and you will have a sound system that will make gaming, movies and music sound amazing. You would have to spend three times as much to get its equal.

I like the Asus motherboards - I think that they are the best quality overall.

You may want to consider Amazon for some component purchases as they are cheaper than Newegg for some things and usually have a better return policy.

Good luck with your build :-)
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June 24, 2011 2:25:17 PM

lexus of psu's! more like the Lamborghini. the corsair force 3's are pretty much vertex 3's same read and write speeds.
i love amazon's no questions return policy. :D 
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June 24, 2011 8:57:28 PM

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lexus of psu's! more like the Lamborghini. the corsair force 3's are pretty much vertex 3's same read and write speeds.
i love amazon's no questions return policy. :D 


Hi,

Look a little closer, I said that the OP might consider the option of the 240GB Vertex 3. The 240 GB is faster than the Corsair 3 120 GB (or the V3 120 GB). I agree with you that the Corsair 3 is very close to the V3 but everything that has been recommended has been the 120 GB size. The 240 GB has a clear advantage in speed, reliability and longevity because of the organization and components of the memory. also the V3s have started to come down a little in price. The 120 GB version is now $250, down from $330. So the 240 GB V3 is at least worth a look :-).

I disagree with you over the pricing of the AX 1200 as a "Lamborghini." I have seen it as low as $250 on sale ($280 not on sale) and it is generally $70 - $100 less than its only competition, the Antec 1200. This is cheap for this amazing PSU. This particular build is especially worthy of the AX 1200; it is the perfect PSU for this build.

Yeah Amazon rocks, no return postage costs if something goes wrong and most of the time you get free shipping :-)
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June 25, 2011 12:14:05 AM

i meant performance wise. not cost :D 

i understand what you mean now about the ssd
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June 25, 2011 12:52:43 AM

controversial opinion coming: unless you have money to absolutely burn (i.e., someone else is paying for it), SSDs are great for reduced Windows load times, and shorter game level load times, etc., but, ....once the game is started/loaded, SSDs are just short of useless *in a gaming system*.

A pair of 6950s(2gb) will run $500 alone, but deliver performance rivaling the 6990, or, a pair of 570s in SLI....

Since the budget includes the monitor, I'd consider the Dell 30" 2560x1600 (which will eat half the budget at $1400), and devote the remaining $1400 to 2500k, Asrock Z68, twin 6950s, etc., skipping the SSD entirely.
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June 25, 2011 5:08:00 AM

Wow flong that was a fantastic post, Im in nearly the exact same boat and you just helped me a lot
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June 25, 2011 5:53:17 AM

Fong thanks a lot for taking the time to look at it, and for the excelent respond, I love how everyone else is also helping me, but you educate me a lot. So I aprettiate all the good posts here.


I cant get a 30inch monitor, I have no space for it lol, my desk is no that big. I will only get a 24inch 1900x1200 res

about the video cards. I think about 2 options. 2 6950 2GBs and make then 6970 (Spent 550$ but get a nice performance) or get 2 580 GTX for 1000$ headache free.


so far this is the PC I have in mind, and most likely will order on Monday.

CPU 300$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard 210$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case 199$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU 300$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video Cards 1000$ 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or 2 x 6950s and flash them
Memory 130$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler 90$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD 475$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Windows 140$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor 370$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Headset 120$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Reader 60$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Burner 90$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thats 2985 with 2x 6950s 2GB
and 3495 with 2x 580 GTX


Wife will divorce me , I know, but hey I dont smoke, drink or do anything stupid, gaming is my only stress release, so I will treat me!!
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June 25, 2011 6:00:01 AM

I've heard lots of negative performance posts about ASrock, not sure
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June 25, 2011 8:20:11 AM

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i meant performance wise. not cost :D 

i understand what you mean now about the ssd


My bad - you are 100% right, it is the Lamborghini of PSUs, I apologize. I am just so used to getting criticized for recommending the AX 1200 because of its price (it happened earlier in this thread I think) that I kind of react defensively. Usually, I hear the words, "a 1200W PSU, what a waste - you will never need that much power." Actually now that I see it in the light of what you said - you really made a great comparison, the AX 1200 is the fastest, most efficient and the best :-).

If I could justify it for my one GPU build (the 6950), I would buy it in a heart beat because it is just that good, but my power draw is just too low and so I went with the HX 850. Hmmm if I could just justify a Lamborghini for my garage, man just think of the chicks ha, ha.

BTW, I think I am going to buy the Corsair 3 120GB; the sale at Newegg right now it is unbeatable.
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June 25, 2011 9:39:27 AM

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Fong thanks a lot for taking the time to look at it, and for the excelent respond, I love how everyone else is also helping me, but you educate me a lot. So I aprettiate all the good posts here.


I cant get a 30inch monitor, I have no space for it lol, my desk is no that big. I will only get a 24inch 1900x1200 res

about the video cards. I think about 2 options. 2 6950 2GBs and make then 6970 (Spent 550$ but get a nice performance) or get 2 580 GTX for 1000$ headache free.


so far this is the PC I have in mind, and most likely will order on Monday.

CPU 300$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard 210$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case 199$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU 300$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video Cards 1000$ 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or 2 x 6950s and flash them
Memory 130$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler 90$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD 475$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Windows 140$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor 370$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Headset 120$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Reader 60$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Burner 90$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thats 2985 with 2x 6950s 2GB
and 3495 with 2x 580 GTX


Wife will divorce me , I know, but hey I dont smoke, drink or do anything stupid, gaming is my only stress release, so I will treat me!!


Hi, here are some updated options:

1. Your monitor is cheaper here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/607046-REG/Samsun...

And BH Photovideo is a quality site that deals with integrity. I bought my monitor from them.

I can't find much information about the Samsung monitor, but I think that it is a TFT monitor and not IPS display. Newegg calls it a WUXGA display which is used in televisions. Samsung makes some of the best TVs but most of their monitors are better TVs than computer monitors. With a TFT monitor you will end up with a faster response which is good for games, but not as good a picture as an IPS like the Dell U2410.

For a comparison, here is a recent review of the U2410:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

It costs a little more but you will get a superior picture by far over a TN or TFT monitor.

I had a 24" Samsung monitor (1920 x 1080) and it wasn't the best monitor for a computer because the print could not be clearly read on it. I took it back. That being said, this monitor has a higher resolution than my previous monitor and it may be a step up for Samsung. At $331 it is certainly cheap. This may be a serious computer monitor from Samsung, I wish I could find some reviews.

2. The Agility is slightly slower than the Vertex 3 240GB. The 240 GB Vertex 3 has gotten rave reviews from nearly every professional review site. If I had the choice (for a 240GB SSD), I would pay the extra $80 for the Vertex 3 if you choose to go with a full 240 GB (see #4 below).

3. Go with the two 6950s but buy a motherboard for that enable a third card in CF. That way if you need more GPU power in the future, you can just add a third card. This way your wife will want to kill you less ha, ha. The 580 is a monster of a card but I am not sure it is worth the extra $150 - $200 per card. I think that 6970 is somewhat overpriced also. Almost everyone agrees that the 6950 is the sweet spot of price Vs performance for video cards. I am not an expert at which Asus boards are best for a three video card setup but plenty of posters on this forum are. Help out guys.

4. You can save some significant money by going with one Vertex 3 120GB or one Corsair 3 120 GB. Probably, 120GB is big enough to put your operating system on and several games. The Vertex 3 240 GB is the biggest baddest SSD (at the 240 GB level) out there right now but it is also one of the most expensive. I do think you will get better value by going with the Corsair 3 120 GB at $180 after rebate and you probably won't see much of a real-world difference. As big and bad as the as the V3 240GB is right now, it will soon be outdated. We are quickly approaching drives that will exceed the limits of Sata III. Ivy Bridge is coming.

In the history of computing, there has never been a faster drive for less money than the Corsair 3 120 GB right now. To put it in perspective, it is less than many second generation SSDs right now like the Vertex 2 and it is a third generation Sandforce drive. This is a remarkable buy.

5. Do you need Windows Professional? You can save $40 by going to the home premium. Maybe the there is a game reason for Windows Professional, I am not sure.

6. Be careful about trying to unlock the 6950 bios to 6970 - a lot of people are bricking their cards trying to do it. With a CF setup of two 6950s, I don't think you will be lacking for gaming power.

7. Consider 2 x 4GB 1866 RAM if you can find it on sale. It would be nice if you could get CL 8 timing. CL 7 is usually overpriced. The 1866 RAM is the sweet spot of price Vs performance

8. The Noctua NH-D14 actually outperforms the Noctua NH-C14 in most reviews. Frosty Tech rates the C14 above the D14 but I think that is an aberration. I have read multiple reviews on both. The D-14 will also give you much more clearance for your RAM. The GSkill RAM will fit under the D14 but not the C14. Noctua has a RAM compatibility list on their website.

Be advised, Noctua will be releasing three new coolers in the near future that are even bigger and badder than the D-14

Let us know how your build comes out.

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June 25, 2011 12:10:29 PM

lieutenantfrost said:
Wow flong that was a fantastic post, Im in nearly the exact same boat and you just helped me a lot


Thanks
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June 25, 2011 3:00:18 PM

flong said:
My bad - you are 100% right, it is the Lamborghini of PSUs, I apologize. I am just so used to getting criticized for recommending the AX 1200 because of its price (it happened earlier in this thread I think) that I kind of react defensively. Usually, I hear the words, "a 1200W PSU, what a waste - you will never need that much power." Actually now that I see it in the light of what you said - you really made a great comparison, the AX 1200 is the fastest, most efficient and the best :-).

If I could justify it for my one GPU build (the 6950), I would buy it in a heart beat because it is just that good, but my power draw is just too low and so I went with the HX 850. Hmmm if I could just justify a Lamborghini for my garage, man just think of the chicks ha, ha.

BTW, I think I am going to buy the Corsair 3 120GB; the sale at Newegg right now it is unbeatable.

oops its gone now :( 
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June 25, 2011 6:50:29 PM

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oops its gone now :( 


Damn :-) - I went on auto-notify. Hopefully it will become available.
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June 26, 2011 3:34:23 AM

Flong!!! I need your help again.

so I finally went to Newegg.com added all components, and it added up to 3650$ thats using 2x 580GTX and all that we talked.
I added to the cart and was about to pay, when I think to myself, let me check another website, like you guys recomend and see if I can save some money, I ended up in Cyberpowerpc.com add all I want on it (they even gave me free Liquid cooling) and everything added to 3100$ How can that be posible?
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June 26, 2011 3:41:56 AM

put what you are buying from newegg down
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June 26, 2011 3:46:00 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
put what you are buying from newegg down

check my post before, I am putting same PC with 2 GTX 580
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June 26, 2011 4:21:40 AM

wha price do you want to get it to? i already made a few suggestions
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June 26, 2011 4:31:59 AM

chepin said:
Flong!!! I need your help again.

so I finally went to Newegg.com added all components, and it added up to 3650$ thats using 2x 580GTX and all that we talked.
I added to the cart and was about to pay, when I think to myself, let me check another website, like you guys recomend and see if I can save some money, I ended up in Cyberpowerpc.com add all I want on it (they even gave me free Liquid cooling) and everything added to 3100$ How can that be posible?


The answer is, probably not. Usually the system builders scrimp on important items like the PSU and motherboard. Don't necessarily be impressed with "liquid cooling," because liquid cooling done poorly doesn't work all that well and it can be a nightmare. They usually scrimp on the cases too.

You might want to post the component list of the CyberPower pc that you are looking at for review. I am sure that you can get some feed back. But in general, the system builders cannot offer the same quality and pricing that you can get if you build your own system. Once in a while they get close, but it is rare.

I reviewed one Cyberpower build and it was using a PSU that was rated so poorly by professional reviewers one called it a fire hazard.

That is the great advantage of building your own; you can pick out the best components available to meet your needs and there are very few compromises. Conversely the pre-built system builder computers usually have multiple compromises in their component quality to allow them the maximum profit.

Back to my previous post, I am pretty sure that three 6950s will outperform two 580s and still be cheaper. Two 6950s in CF will give you 43 fps at highest settings with Crysis which is very playable and Crysis is one of the of the most GPU intense games on the planet. If some game comes along that you need more GPU power, you just drop in a third 6950 for $250 and whoossshhh, you have a system that will play any video game on any monitor at max settings.

The GTI 580 is undoubtedly the most practical " big gorilla on the block" of video cards because the 6990 is way too expensive and noisy. But it is a card for people who have money to burn and I don't want your wife to kill you ha, ha. If budget is an issue, the 580 will quickly consume most of your budget.

You will get more enjoyment out of your system by upgrading the monitor to an HIPS (much better picture), adding at least a 120GB SSD (saves a lot of time loading games and booting), and adding a sound card and a great set of speakers like the Corsair SP 2500s. By far, let me say it again, by far, you will get a much better gaming experience with the upgrades listed in this paragraph. You will see and hear all of your games in a first class way and you will be able to play music and watch movies on your computer and hear everything you would in a movie theater. Add a Hauppauge 2250 or a Silcon Dust TV card and you will be able to watch and record HDTV (you will need either a over the air antenna or a cable connection) on your PC using Windows Media Center as a DVR.

Conversely, while it may have a certain "cool" factor to have the baddest video card on the planet in your system, you really don't need all that power to play most games at max settings. You won't notice the difference in video cards nearly as much as the other upgrades I have noted.

The 6950 with a dual card CF setup will outperform a single 580 and cost about the same. If you need to outperform two 580s in SLI, you can add another 6950 and you will still be hundreds of dollars ahead. Once you have three 6950s in your system, no game at any setting is going to challenge your computer. You would have to have three high resolution monitors to even begin to see the limits of a tri-6950 system and you are using only one monitor.

The MSI HD 6950 Twin Frozr III 2 GB can be unlocked to 6970 settings, here is an article, but be careful

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_6950_Twin_Fro...
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June 26, 2011 5:00:54 AM

I hate computers hehehe. I am so confuse right now.

I though this was supose to be easier.

I hear you about the 2 or 3 6950s I love the Idea too. I like Overclocking my system (ONLY WHEN ITS 3 YEARS OLD LOL)
but my problem is, if I buy 3 6950s and it look very easy to make then 3x 6970s I will do it right away

if I burn those 3 or 2 cards. I will have to buy 2 GTX 580s and ended up paying a lot more, thats why I was gonna use 2x 580GTX thinking this is faster. but now you say 3x6950s is faster than 2x GTX 580?

so I am back to step 1, I have decided on everything, only Video Cards are giving me problems, and I will use the Ultra Sharp Dell 24inc
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June 26, 2011 7:28:27 AM

Hey, in reading the Newegg reviews on the MSI HD 6950 Frozr III, posters are saying that the card had been redone so that you cannot flash the bios to a 6970
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June 26, 2011 7:32:52 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
wha price do you want to get it to? i already made a few suggestions


Hey mjmjpfaff, do you have the info on the new scaling speed of three 6950s? On another thread, one of the regulars posted that AMD had fixed the scaling of the third card and now three 6950s in crossfire beat any two-card combination. I could not find any reviews showing this, have you found any?
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June 26, 2011 7:58:49 AM

chepin said:
I hate computers hehehe. I am so confuse right now.

I though this was supose to be easier.

I hear you about the 2 or 3 6950s I love the Idea too. I like Overclocking my system (ONLY WHEN ITS 3 YEARS OLD LOL)
but my problem is, if I buy 3 6950s and it look very easy to make then 3x 6970s I will do it right away

if I burn those 3 or 2 cards. I will have to buy 2 GTX 580s and ended up paying a lot more, thats why I was gonna use 2x 580GTX thinking this is faster. but now you say 3x6950s is faster than 2x GTX 580?

so I am back to step 1, I have decided on everything, only Video Cards are giving me problems, and I will use the Ultra Sharp Dell 24inc


You do not need to flash the bios on a 2-card 6950 crossfire build, it will be plenty fast by itself. So you don't have to do anything if you buy two 6950s and put them in crossfire. It is also fairly straightforward to set up.

The 580 as good as it is will be outdated within a year and you may regret paying $400 - $500 extra over the two 6950s. If the 6950s go out of date so what? You just have $500 total invested not a $1000 or more.

Video cards are being updated almost every 6 months and at the most 9 months to a year. It is better to stick with the best performance for the buck cards because 6-9 months from now there will be better, faster cards available. This way you do not spend a fortune trying to keep up with the Jones (or the Smiths) and your wife does not kill you :-).

You still can play any current game at the highest settings with a CF 6950 system. Yes you can afford the 580s, but you don't really need them and right now you are paying a premium for them.

Your goal is to game. Two 6950s in CF lets you do that in a first class way. What more do you need? If in a couple of years you want to add a third 6950 for more power, you still have that option but I doubt you will need to add a third card. Perhaps a dedicated gamer could provide some input here, but I doubt for almost any game that a third card would provide much tangible benefit. You would have to go to something like Metro 2033 before you would even tax a two card 6950 system.

If you had a $5000 dollar budget, then I would say, hey go with the 580s you can easily afford it. But you don't. You have a $2500 budget and the 580 cards are $500 apiece unless you find a sale. That's a lot of money for a $2500 budget. You would be spending somewhere around $1000 for just the 580s.

Recently Newegg was listing a 580 at a little over $430 after rebates and so you might find a sale. But the 2 GB 6950 frequently goes on sale for around $220 and so two 6950s are about the same price as one 580 and they will bury a single 580 in performance. So you have lost nothing by getting the two 6950s as far as cost comparisons and you have superior performance for the buck.

I am editing this post. Metro 2033 at its highest settings may challenge the 6950 CF setup but I am not totally sure. That being said, if there was a problem you simply can add a third 6950 and problem solved. This would probably be the only game that you would have to check on and remember, the highest settings in Metro 2033 are crazy anyway with anti-aliasing an the kitchen sink, you don't really need to go that high to enjoy that particular game.
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June 26, 2011 6:12:48 PM

flong said:
Hey mjmjpfaff, do you have the info on the new scaling speed of three 6950s? On another thread, one of the regulars posted that AMD had fixed the scaling of the third card and now three 6950s in crossfire beat any two-card combination. I could not find any reviews showing this, have you found any?

you know i just found one review where it compared 2 and 3 card sli/cf of teh 580 570 6950 and 6970. perfect right . but now i am having trouble finding it. i hate the internet sometimes
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June 26, 2011 6:32:39 PM

after doing some research i found it would be close. but since the 6950 tri crossfire is so much cheaper i would go for it. start with 2 since you are only going to be playing at 1920x1200. the most you would need is 2 6970's and that is a viable option too.
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June 27, 2011 6:27:01 AM

chepin said:
I was going to ask that out, I see some 6970s 2gb for 325$ in newegg. while most 6950s 2gb cost 275-300 I would pay extra 50$ for sure, and get the better card

like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 315$ with rebates!!


Of course. All of the advice that you would get from any of the posters would be tempered by getting the best sale price on the best component you can. If you get a great buy on the 6970s then go for it - it is one of the two best single GPUs available. Two 6970s in crossfire would easily play anything.

Generally I don't recommend the 6970 because it has been overpriced compared to the 6950. If you look for sales you might get the 2 GB 6950 for $230 after rebates. But the 6970 for $315 is certainly reasonable considering its processing power. It is not that far off of the 580.

It is much more palatable to invest $650 on two 6970s and have them go out of date in 9-12 months, the to invest $1000 + in two 580s and have them go out of date. Two 6950s will probably be around the $500 mark.

Remember, often you can only get one rebate per household. So you might have to use a friend's address to get the second rebate.
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June 27, 2011 6:42:09 AM

That particular MSI 6970 card has a lot of complaints on Newegg and that may be why it is on sale.
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The mobo down below is a 12 phase board giving you a nice stable o/c. The monitor is a 120hz LED Nvidia 3D 2ms gaming monitor. The Zalman h/s is rated in the top ten at Frosty Tech. Add an SSD, headset, etc.. to this build and your good to go.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $304.98 + $10.00 Mail In Rebate FREE SHIPPING $10 off w/ promo code CMB10, ends 6/30
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $189.98 + $20.00 Mail In Rebates
CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $379.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 - $69.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Red LED

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99 (Before $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99 (Before $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $18.99 FREE SHIPPING
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

Total: $1,533.89 *not including monitor, SSD, headset, shipping, mail in rebates, etc...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99
Acer HS244HQbmii Black 23.6" 2ms 3D Full HD HDMI WideScreen LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 ACM 12,000,000:1 (1,000:1)

Total: $1,933.88 *with monitor...

For dual 6950's just switch out the vid cards up above for two of these down below

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $279.99 FREE SHIPPING
MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Here's the 2600K combo with that board.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $474.98
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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June 28, 2011 2:34:50 AM

just 3 questions, and I will be all set Why_me

love the set up by the way.

1) 750Watts will be enough for 2 x 6970s 2gb CF ? if no, what PSU should I get

2) what SSD should I buy, or should I get a 30GB one and use intel response from the motherboard, and just use regular hard drives, since intel response make it faster?

3) last question I Wanna add a Blue ray Burner and reader, instead of DVD burner, what you recomend ?
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June 28, 2011 7:11:12 AM

Hi,

1. There is a lot of controversy over this. Some people spec their PSUs at 200W over max usage capacity. I don't like to do that because it puts your PSU into a very inefficient range of its power capacity. Most PSUs have the best efficiency from 20% - 70% of their capacity approximately. I like to spec my PSUs at 50% over their maximum capacity. This ensures that they will run in their most efficient range of their capacity.

Two 6970s and your system will probably be in the 600 W range maximum draw. This means that even with the 200 W over max capacity formula, a 750 W PSU is a little small. I think the minimum you would want to go would be a Corsair HX 850. BTW, I owned the Corsair HX 750 and I can say with some authority that it would have trouble with two 6970s. It would go to high fan with just my ATI 5850 (just on video card), which means that the 5850 was pushing it. The Corsair PSUs put out more wattage than their rating but they are less efficient and get hot if you push them past their max rating.

However, if you use the 50% over max capacity formula, the AX 1200 is the best PSU. This would also allow you to run an third card in crossfire if you choose to do so. An 850 W PSU would probably be maxed out with three cards (high-end cards).

So yes a 750 W PSU would run the two-card system, but not very efficiently (it will be hot and noisy). An efficient 850 W PSU like the Corsair HX 850 would run two cards more efficiently but I still think the best choice is the Corsair AX 1200. It is simply the best large PSU for the money bar none. However, it is about $120 more than the HX 850.
If you are going high-end as you say, the AX 1200 is the best choice and it has plenty of headroom to run anything you can throw at it.

Both the HX 850 and AX 1200 have a 7-year warranty and so they will easily last two or more builds and so this is another good reason to get the AX 1200. It ensures that you will have the power to run any rig you can imagine - even a four card setup GPU if wish.

Remember, there are different views on this. If I were in your place, I would not even hesitate to get the AX1200, but different people think differently.

2. NO, NO, NO. The cache system on the Z68 boards is not nearly as good as running your system directly from a third generation Sandforce drive. To be fair the cache system will make your PC faster than a stock HDD, but it does not even compare to a dedicated SSD. If budget was an issue, then going to the Intel cache system would be an option to consider

3. Tom's hardware recommended Lite-On and LG in their quarterly builds. Some people like Sony, some people like Pioneer. I don't think that there is any consensus on this subject. I have researched several drives with no success in finding one that is superior to another as far as reviews.

I would recommend that you go with the fastest that you can buy which I believe is 12 X right now. They cost around $100 -$140 depending on which brand you buy.

Tom's Hardware latest high-end build used this: LG WH12LS30 BD-RE: 12x BD-R, 16x DVD±R and they listed the cost at $95. It is actually $85 at Newegg right now

I would recommend that you get a separate DVD burner because they are only $20 and they are faster with DVDs and CDs than the blu-ray players.
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June 28, 2011 7:15:47 AM

The 2600K combo only saves you $30 and so it would be better to get the motherboard that you want. I like Asus boards best right now but other people like other manufacturers. From the reviews, it appears that the Asus boards are the most user friendly boards and they have the best UEFI (user interface).

Also, I am not a big fan of the GTX 560 Ti. If you go GTX, the 570 is a much better card (but it is also more expensive). Of course we have already discussed the GTX 580) A lot of people recommend the 560 Ti but the ATI 6950 is faster and they cost about the same.
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June 28, 2011 1:39:11 PM

hehe I hear you Flong, I Was trying to Dogde the PSU 1200 Watts and the SSD so I can get 2x GTX 580s

but I think I will just give up, and go for the 240GB SSD, 1200 PSU and 2x 6950s

I just dont what what is better for game, better video cards or faster HDDs
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