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June 21, 2011 8:07:23 AM

Hi Guys, I'm about to build a new PC and would appreciate someone checking over the parts list to check that I haven't overlooked something or if there are better options for the money.

The plan is to setup a 3 monitor eyefinity rig which will be used primarily for:
- uni work
-- simple stuff (word docs & PDF's on different screens for convenience)
-- intensive stuff - CAD, math programs and electronics simulations
- Some gaming, not too serious - just got into: (If I'm going to build something that will run 3 monitors, might as well make sure it can run eyefinity and enjoy it!
-- COD - Black Ops
-- Dirt 3
-- BF2 (Can't wait for BF3)

I do not have any current plans to overclock, but am happy to give it a shot (probably start easy and increase in the future when the PC feels slow) and would like to build in the ability to.

Here are the parts I have selected. I have looked at reviews for all of them, and so far believe they are the best option, but if someone can suggest otherwise, or confirm they are compatible (preferably from experience) I would love to know! Budget is currently at $3000 including 3 monitors, DP cables and UPS.

*All prices are in AUD

1) CPU:
i7 2600k
$320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Initially planned for i5, but was talked into i7 by a friend partly because I may be able to use the extra power, and partly just so that I never look back and wish I went with the i7!

2) CPU cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212+
$33
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May not be necessary, but seamed like a good idea. I also considered the H70, but couldn't justify the slight improvement for large cost difference.
I also read that this cooler will slightly overhang the ram (which is tall), but the fan could easily sit 1cm higher and not be an issue. Can anyone confirm this?

3) Motherboard:
Asus P8Z68 V Pro
$246
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Originally selected the p8p67 deluxe, but I think (could be wrong) that I read some reviews that said that the p67 deluxe had some problems and the z68 v pro overcame these. The quicksync, onboard graphics and ssd caching could be handy, but I could live without if there is a better/more reliable quality board

4) RAM:
Corsair DDR3 8GB (2x Vengeance 4GB) 1600MHz CL9 (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)
$110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'm not too fussed about ram so long as it is good quality... This was suggested to someone on a forum for a similar build, and seamed to get a good review. I'm not fussed about the heatsink and don't wish to overclock it, so will change if someone suggests something better.

5) Graphics Card:
Asus HD6950 DCII 2GB
$320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I've done a lot of research (including emailing people who already have this card) to find out if it is right. The reason for selecting it is:
a) 6950 2GB seams like a good option for some gaming at good price
b) It has 4 DP connections meaning that it will not cause tearing between screens as they will all use the same connection type (if anyone can confirm that would be awesome!)
I also plan on allowing the option of getting a second 6950 (probably a different make) to crossfire down the track if it reaches the point where it can't keep up!
Also, this card does NOT have DP1.2, but if I ever need it, I will make sure the second 6950 has DP1.2 and make it the 'master'/first slot card

6) SSD:
OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120GB SSD
$330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Although expensive, gets great reviews. I don't need much space (or separate HDD) as I have a permanent server (with redundancy) for storing files.

7) PSU:
Corsair AX-850
$245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Modular is convenient, 850W should provide enough power to overclock a little and crossfire a second 6950 down the track (right!?)

8) Case:
Cooler Master HAF 942
$220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Whilst probably overkill, it should provide very good cooling and fit the graphics card.

9) Monitors:
3 x Dell U2311H (23" e-IPS)
3x$222 = $666
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c...
I would be happy with smaller, but while on special the 21" are almost the same cost. Screens are (e-)IPS and look great!

10) UPS:
Eaton Powerware 5110 - 1500VA 900W
$290
http://powerquality.eaton.com/products-services/backup-...
Have one already for server, will buy second, works fantastic.

11) DisplayPort cables:
3 x 4.5m from ebay.
3x$25 = $75
Is there an issue with cable quality? I looked into this for HDMI cables and found that expensive cables do not provide a better image, just that cheap ones may break down over time. (which I can live with!)

If you have any thoughts on any of these parts - either why they may not be right or work together, or you already have these and they work great, I would love to know!

Thanks
Anthony

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June 21, 2011 8:27:16 AM

How often do you experience sudden power loss there in Australia ?

June 21, 2011 8:32:31 AM

Curious where you're buying the hardware from.

Newegg doesn't ship to Australia.
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June 21, 2011 8:41:04 AM

@Outlander_04

Power loss - very rarely
People shoving things in toasters or dryers surging causing RCD to trip - Surprisingly often!

It's really just piece of mind & protection. Lost a few hdds to things like this and a MB too!

@Silverclaw
MSY
Centercom
PCDIY
PCCaseGear

Newegg is just a convenient site as most people are familiar with it and they have (almost) everything.

Anyone have suggestions on the build?

Cheers
Anthony
June 21, 2011 9:02:22 AM

SSD : Agility 3 120GB - $260

PSU : 850TX v2 - $150 Shipping included (buy from amazon to save $$)

With the money you save upgrade your GPU to a 6970

http://staticice.com.au is your friend (I'm sure you already know that though)



June 21, 2011 9:27:31 AM

silverclaw said:
SSD : Agility 3 120GB - $260

PSU : 850TX v2 - $150 Shipping included (buy from amazon to save $$)

With the money you save upgrade your GPU to a 6970

http://staticice.com.au is your friend (I'm sure you already know that though)


Thanks for the reply.

The SSD is a different make and should outperform the one you suggested.

The PSU I have selected is different, it is modular and has a higher energy efficiency.

From what I have read the upgrade to a 6970 is not really justifiable as the 6950 can often be unlocked and overclocked to beat a 6970.

Do you buy Amazon and ship to Australia? What's the shipping cost like? (I'm having trouble finding it) Presumably they charge more for large items? I can't find these details.

I've never seen that site, but have used similar ones like shopbot. I will go and see if I can find any better prices!

Thanks
June 21, 2011 9:40:58 AM

day1118 said:
Thanks for the reply.

The SSD is a different make and should outperform the one you suggested.

The PSU I have selected is different, it is modular and has a higher energy efficiency.

From what I have read the upgrade to a 6970 is not really justifiable as the 6950 can often be unlocked and overclocked to beat a 6970.

Do you buy Amazon and ship to Australia? What's the shipping cost like? (I'm having trouble finding it) Presumably they charge more for large items? I can't find these details.

I've never seen that site, but have used similar ones like shopbot. I will go and see if I can find any better prices!

Thanks


From 80% efficiency to 90% costs $60 - Being modular that important?

Same with the SSD, 20-30 mb/s costs an extra $80

Anywho I'm just throwing ideas at ya.



That's being shipped from the US to NSW, Australia.
June 21, 2011 1:54:07 PM

If you're running workstation stuff like CAD and simulators you might want to bump up to 12 gigs of RAM.
June 22, 2011 1:10:00 PM

Thanks Taylor422, I will start with 8 and increase if need be.

I'm starting to second guess the MB and SSD from some of the reviews I've read.

The p8z68 v-pro reviews all say its good, but there where no others when the reviews were written, so they comment on having nothing to compare to. Are the board problematic? I will have discrete GPU, so onboard was just because it may be handy.

Thanks

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June 23, 2011 5:17:36 AM
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corsair force 3 120gb (vertex 3 insides)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... dont mind the bad reviews they have fixed the problem

here is a better reviewed motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and for that extreme budget build you should get a better cpu cooler- http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH...

the ax 850 is overpriced this hx 850 performs just as well- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

here is some cheaper (performs just as well)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

do those monitors have a display port output?
June 23, 2011 5:37:53 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
corsair force 3 120gb (vertex 3 insides)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... dont mind the bad reviews they have fixed the problem

here is a better reviewed motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and for that extreme budget build you should get a better cpu cooler- http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH...

the ax 850 is overpriced this hx 850 performs just as well- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

here is some cheaper (performs just as well)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

do those monitors have a display port output?


Thanks for your reply.

So would you definitively go Force 3 over vertex 3 MAX IOPS?

I read the Hyper 212+ was almost as good as expensive cpu coolers and at 1/3 the cost. Like it only made 1-2 dec difference.

I had thought about dropping PSU down to HX series, thanks

I had also thought about going with Gskill snipper 1600Mhz ram. Are all three roughly equivalent?

Yes, monitors have DP, that's why I'm getting the GPU with 4xDP so I don't have to do conversions, or get tearing!

Thanks for your help!
June 23, 2011 5:41:53 AM

i would because it is so much cheaper

it is a good cpu cooler but this one is one of the best and beats it by a pretty large margin

this is faster because it is cl8 ram- thanks silverclaw

k good. would suck if it didnt have a dp
June 23, 2011 6:04:01 AM

day1118 said:
Thanks for your reply.

So would you definitively go Force 3 over vertex 3 MAX IOPS?

I read the Hyper 212+ was almost as good as expensive cpu coolers and at 1/3 the cost. Like it only made 1-2 dec difference.

I had thought about dropping PSU down to HX series, thanks

I had also thought about going with Gskill snipper 1600Mhz ram. Are all three roughly equivalent?

Yes, monitors have DP, that's why I'm getting the GPU with 4xDP so I don't have to do conversions, or get tearing!

Thanks for your help!


I'd either go with the Force 3 or Agility 3.

As mjmjpfaff stated, the Noctua is the pretty much the Rolls Royce of CPU coolers. It's HUGE (shouldn't have a problem with ram clearance with the G.Skill x 8GB 1600 8cl) and efficient - within your budget too. I recently bought mine off Ebay for a cheap price - Sent me a private message if you would like the link.

I also agree with his mobo and PSU suggestions.
June 23, 2011 6:10:21 AM

silverclaw said:
I'd either go with the Force 3 or Agility 3.

As mjmjpfaff stated, the Noctua is the pretty much the Rolls Royce of CPU coolers. It's HUGE (shouldn't have a problem with ram clearance with the G.Skill x 8GB 1600 8cl) and efficient - within your budget too. I recently bought mine off Ebay for a cheap price - Sent me a private message if you would like the link.

I also agree with his mobo and PSU suggestions.


Thanks. Is the Force 3/ Agility 3 suggestion purely based on cost? What is the performance difference like?

I'd love the link. Can you pm it to me please?

Thanks
June 23, 2011 7:34:06 AM

day1118 said:
Thanks for the link.

I also just read this... Check out posts by DeathOfNames. Theres so much different information!

http://www.overclock.net/ssd/1028614-vertex-3-max-iops-...

Could you also please PM me the Ram Link?

Cheers


Do you mean ram or CPU cooler?

I tried looking and it seems the seller no longer sells the Noctua Dh-N14

Sorry.

Also, read the entire http://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/zardon/cor...

It has some interesting comparisons between the top SSD's
June 23, 2011 7:47:04 AM

silverclaw said:
Do you mean ram or CPU cooler?

I tried looking and it seems the seller no longer sells the Noctua Dh-N14

Sorry.

Also, read the entire http://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/zardon/cor...

It has some interesting comparisons between the top SSD's


I thought you had a cheap price for the ram. The vengeance is $10 cheaper than the gskill.

Will read article now

Edit: Finished... To me it looks like the Vertex 3 Max IOPS performed higher, but with both at this performance, lets say the difference is negligible. At the very end they comment on the fact that the next one will use different technology
Corsair will also be releasing a new series of drives called the Force GT which will use ONFI synchronous NAND (not async NAND) delivering even greater levels of performance, but with a higher cost overhead. said:
Corsair will also be releasing a new series of drives called the Force GT which will use ONFI synchronous NAND (not async NAND) delivering even greater levels of performance, but with a higher cost overhead.

From my understanding, the Vertex 3 already uses this technology.

I reached a point where I thought I would just go with Force 3 for reliability, but I'm reading a lot of posts saying Vertex 3 is great. And if its not what the claim, can't I just RMA?

(Sorry if it feels like the same discussion over and over, but its really helping me get my head around it all! So thanks for keeping on replying, this is what forces me to think the most and make the best decision!)

Cheers
June 23, 2011 8:11:03 AM

day1118 said:
I thought you had a cheap price for the ram. The vengeance is $10 cheaper than the gskill.

Will read article now

Edit: Finished... To me it looks like the Vertex 3 Max IOPS performed higher, but with both at this performance, lets say the difference is negligible. At the very end they comment on the fact that the next one will use different technology

From my understanding, the Vertex 3 already uses this technology.

I reached a point where I thought I would just go with Force 3 for reliability, but I'm reading a lot of posts saying Vertex 3 is great. And if its not what the claim, can't I just RMA?

(Sorry if it feels like the same discussion over and over, but its really helping me get my head around it all! So thanks for keeping on replying, this is what forces me to think the most and make the best decision!)

Cheers


Yeah I was talking about the clearance of the ram to the CPU cooler. The deal I was referring to was about the CPU cooler, sorry I should have make more obvious.

Put it this way. If you have the money, get the Vertex 3 Max IOPS without a doubt.

If money is running a little low, go with the Force 3.


June 23, 2011 8:22:39 AM

silverclaw said:
Yeah I was talking about the clearance of the ram to the CPU cooler. The deal I was referring to was about the CPU cooler, sorry I should have make more obvious.

Put it this way. If you have the money, get the Vertex 3 Max IOPS without a doubt.

If money is running a little low, go with the Force 3.


Thanks, now the question comes... is $60 (AUD) worth the difference!
July 3, 2011 3:04:15 PM

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